trinacriabob

DVT (not a Cadillac, but a radiology procedure)

RA just found out a co-worker, late 30s, has this ... so does Kathleen Turner and it has dramatically changed her appearance (I what ED stands for, so what is RP?)

I'm not sure the negative campaign tactic is a good approach. This is a little bit more pungent than what Fusion/Milan dish out against their competition, which is facts -- the reliability of those cars has been remarkable vis-a-vis their Japanese competition. Flash back 10 years - the Intrigue commercials were very sexy, for lack of a better word. They made you aware that this was a different car within that genre, hence the tag line "a sophisticated twist on the sports sedan." If one went further, into print ads and into automotive reviews, they would see the inevitable comparison to CamCord. It's worth a chuckle, but its credibility isn't the best. They need to sell this car on its merits.

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Whatever "pencils out" as keeping more money in your, and your family's, pocket. Especially in these tough times.

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I guess it's also cultural conditioning. My upbringing was so damn patriarchal, that my Mom always said "how high" when my Dad said "jump." Don't get me wrong, they got along, but each needed that tell/be told dynamic to make the marriage work. Today, I doubt if you even see that in Catholic Mediterranean Europe. I think it still exists in the Eastern Mediterranean where the people are of Arab stock, though. I also believe that this conundrum in role definition has dealt one hell of a blow to the institution of marriage, and to (all kinds of) relationships as well.

Part of it will be handled by BART, who will run longer trains and more frequently. Wow, some of the snobs in Orinda, Lafayette and Walnut Creek may finally get to see the inside of a BART train.

vaginas ought to be vertically symmetrical...unless there is an infection in the labia or something...unbelievable...now that's an overactive imagination... ...back on track: - (to anyone who has this older-younger pattern as a "constant") - what is the attraction to someone who is significantly younger, to the point that they could almost be your biological offspring? I'm curious as to the rationale.

scoop (in some towns, a poop scoop is necessary when you walk your pet)

Yes on the G8. I quickly grew to really like it. Most G8 drivers seem to appreciate and understand cars. I haven't seen any morons behind the wheel of one, from a quick "ISTJ" point of view... The Camaro is ok. I'd like it a lot more if: 1) the "roof rail" wasn't so chunky and the greenhouse wasn't so limited (revisit '67,'68,'69...there was more glass) 2) the circular headlamps had a more rectangular shape, to match the rear taillamps 3) the interior panel wasn't so austere...they could have kept the same "retro" theme without being as boring It looks best in white and silver.

Well, North Central California. I'm from LA (native, at that ). Pit stops in: New Jersey (kid), Atlanta (right after college), and OR/WA (parents relocated there). Pretty crazy about the bridge, though. It'll be interesting to find out how something in its structure just sort of snaps and falls off.

Commuting to work this morning, I thought this was a joke. But it's true. The San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge, the "workhorse" of the bridges in the Bay Area, is closed. This one connects to the city to the East Bay where millions of people live in Oakland, Berkeley, and many other towns. (The postcard bridge, the Golden Gate, connects the city to more remote, way more expensive and less populous areas). Unlike almost exactly 20 years ago (Oct 17, 1989) when the Loma Prieta Quake popped a section out of the roadway, this time, there was no natural disaster. A connecting rod on the "East Span," which they are actually replacing with an entirely new bridge as we speak, snapped and hit a few cars during the commute hour. Have you been following this? Crazy! Link to Bay Bridge closure / mishap

Yeah, the "mom thing" seems to be the "line of demarcation." At least, you can talk about travel, restaurants, sex and NOT "their kids." Plus I'm sure many of these urban cougars in the Southland have had their share of time spent "under the knife" to prolong their shelf-life, making it easier to hit on the 20's to 30's set. On another note, there was a movie (it would be considered a "classic") and it's called "Summer of 42." The kid is about 15 and the girl is about 22 or 23, so hardly a "cougar" scenario as it took place during World War 2. It's about an infatuation with an older woman and it is outstanding. I've seen it numerous times.

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+1 A reason to drool... (more drooling had it been in coupe form) Those were the most beautiful American full-sizes of that span of years, and with sleek (enough) styling to wear aluminum alloy wheels. Thanks! What a beauty.

If it's the '76 version of the green, it's that metallic lime. Scary stuff, though interesting when the white seats are contrasted with lime carpeting, seat belts and instrument panel. Still, it wouldn't be my choice. Funny that the white interior would be matched up with a black retractable top. I wonder what the story might be there... The perfect Grand Ville convertible would be the metallic rust, a white interior with the tan accents, a white top and rally wheels...and, if it makes a difference in mpg, a 400 V8 instead of the 455 V8. Regardless, all of these Pontiac big block V8s run with the indestructible Turbo 400 3-speed automatic transmission. My choice for the coupe would be exactly the same, except that a tan cloth interior would replace the white interior. Makes me want to look for one to keep as a hobby car...

The grass is always greener. Let me tell you, I lived in the PNW (Oregon and Washington, both) and, while it may seem like a real progressive place, it is very smug and uptight. I got tired of the "oh, you're from California." When I lived in the Southeast, I never heard that, because they didn't see many Californians, so there was no resentment. For the Northwesterners, Californians with "cash in hand" changed their lives, largely through changing the price of housing, so it may not have been for the better and I can sort of understand their resentment. I won't comment on the personal aspects of what you detailed a few posts above. All I can say is that one has to be their own best friend. That's the most important thing. I can either do things on my own (travel to far away places, take road trips or stay locally) or do things with friends or relatives (most of whom are overseas). The funny thing is, when you're not looking for friends, you start making friends. On a real general level, letting people (regardless of demographics) into your life who can 'eff it up and make it more complicated is not a good thing. The reality is that we actually know when people are bad for us from the very start - some choose to revel in the drama and others run from it. In these cases, we are probably better off by ourselves. Within the last few years, I bounced a few friends I had been friends with from 15 to 30+ years. I was better off for it and should have done it a long time ago. I had a good friend in Atlanta and she once said (about anything: jobs, relationships, neighborhoods) that "the positives have to outweigh the negatives." I've learned to use that...it's real simple...it seems to work very well. Oh yeah, since the thread has to do with age, I'll come back around to that. The notion of a "cougar" or a "sugar daddy" is funny, but it's really kind of sad...for both the older and the younger person. Sad for the older person in the pairing because they are desparately trying to "purchase" affection and will be insecure throughout this process, which always ends, and sad for the younger person in the pairing because they're looking to fill some psychological void...if the age gap is almost 20 years, then they're looking for the parent that's missing and was "unavailable." All I can say is that I stick to the "Starbucks or B&N Test" - most couples who come in are fairly evenly matched, on all levels....age, race, level of looks, education, socioeconomic status, religion and what not. No, they are not clones of each other. They just complement each other. When the pairing is way off, I wonder "What's up with this?" It's interesting to "peoplewatch" the situation, but, in the end, I really don't get it. This thread had been dormant for about a year. What woke it up from its slumber?

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I saw that, too, but keep in mind that this forum is populated by hard-core aficionados of those brands, Olds/Pontiac, who (unfortunately) do not represent the general car buying public.

Yes, like that one! The rallys seen to work even better with the convertible, but I do recall those turbine-type wheel (covers). I have seen some really interesting color combos on these convertibles, such a white with the burgundy vinyl or leather interior, or the various blues with a white interior and blue trim, with rally wheels. And the coupes of that model were equally interesting.

Wow, no one claimed Buick as their preferred brand. I mean, I REALLY like my cars for how great they've been, but 2 other GM brands have made more of an (emotional) impact on me.