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vibe is a toyota. nuff said G6 coupe is god awful ugly and sells in low volumes. some tell me if GM is even planning another coupe or not. regardless, could go to Aura G6 convertible - GM probably lost a ton developing that roof. and again, sells in less volume than the coupe. if a solid case for convertible exists, why not make it a luxury convertible for buick instead of a cheap pos like it is now. G8 - i drove one the other day. wrong car for today's market. could be moved to chevy quite easily G8 ST - would sell more if it was a chevy el camino again, i agree that pontiac has potential, but there are no indications that GM sees that and is prepared to do what needs to be done. and given that every other brand is starving for attention, something has got to give. GM, as it stands today, can NOT support 8 brands in NA, or globally for that matter.

vibe is a toyota. nuff said G6 coupe is god awful ugly and sells in low volumes. someone tell me if GM is even planning another coupe or not. regardless, could go to Aura G6 convertible - GM probably lost a ton developing that roof. and again, sells in less volume than the coupe. if a solid case for convertible exists, why not make it a luxury convertible for buick instead of a cheap pos like it is now. G8 - i drove one the other day. good ride and decent value, but wrong car for today's market. oil prices killing it. and it could be moved to chevy quite easily G8 ST - would sell more if it was a chevy el camino again, i agree that pontiac has potential, but there are no indications that GM sees that and is prepared to do what needs to be done. and given that every other brand is starving for attention, something has got to give. GM, as it stands today, can NOT support 8 brands in NA, or globally for that matter.

i don't load people's sigs. too much crap to sift thru when reading comments. (meaning my settings don't display people's sigs) history? are you kidding me. anyone with any sense of pontiac's history is already buying german or asian cars. the younger market that presumably pontiac should target has no clue of pontiacs history. the problem with most of you guys and your fantasy line-ups is that they are just that f-- antasies. you guys live in the past with no sense of reality with what is more likely to happen than not. i'd love for pontiac to have become a niche, RWD only lineup of no compromise sporty cars. but the fact remains they are not that today and there is no indication that they intend to do that. the pontiac image in the buying public is crap and sales are declining. so tell me, exactly what cars do they offer than couldn't be re-badged as something else?

i don't load people's sigs. too much crap to sift thru when reading comments. history? are you kidding me. anyone with any sense of pontiac's history is already buying german or asian cars. the younger market that presumably pontiac should target has no clue of pontiacs history. the problem with most of you guys and your fantasy line-ups is that they are just that f-- antasies. you guys live in the past with no sense of reality with what is more likely to happen than not. i'd love for pontiac to have become a niche, RWD only lineup of no compromise sporty cars. but the fact remains they are not that today and there is no indication that they intend to do that. the pontiac image in the buying public is crap and sales are declining. so tell me, exactly what cars do they offer than couldn't be re-badged as something else?

like what? I don't disagree that Pontiac COULD be relevant with the right line-up, but there is no evidence that GM has the balls or the cash to do that, and the current products are nothing more than warmed over re-hashes of ofther cars in GM's stable. G5 - Cobalt G6 - Aura/Malibu G8 - could be moved to Chevy if needed(prob won't sell enough to justify) G8 ST - would sell in greater numbers if it was an El Camino Torrent - make it a Buick or GMC Montana - gone Solstice - if they get the platform right move it to Cadillac, otherwise move to Chevy Vibe - it's a Toyota and apparently you guys would love to see it disappear anyway

do you think they could have gotten any more black plastic under the hood? that looks ridiculous.

looks like the Evoq to me. you know, the car the XLR should have looked like. it still looks hot after 10years.

sadly, pontiac has nothing to offer than couldn't easily be moved to another brand. pathetic really when you think of it.

get with the program. women are from venus, men are from mars! there is no accountng for taste. i mean, some people thing that the X6 looks good

btw- wife likes srx, was warm on wagon

that is ridiculous. 5 versions? come on.

i don't like it either, but i hope it sells. maybe having some SRX in driveways, will inspire their husbands to buy a CTS instead of a BMW sedan

sorry yoda, but the srx will probably sell better than the wagon as it wagons don't sell that well in NA and cute-utes do. and if i were you, i'd hope that a bunch of young real estate broker women types by the srx in droves, cause what other vehicles does caddy have to draw them into the dealership? um, oh wait, there aren't any. they'll go by X3, RDX, Tiguan, whatever mercedes is selling, Q5, MKX,

makes you wonder if the lambda caddy will be an effort like this SRX or like the CTS Wagon. i pray for the latter.

don't worry. if zeta survives long enough, it will be called El Camino when Pontiac dies in a few years.

same reason the clowns on the board of directors are still there. same reason PCS is still there.

you've got to be kidding me.

that's kinda funny, given that for the past 20+yrs, it's GM accountants that have taken the brunt of bad press for not allowing the 'car guys' to design and build the cars the public wanted, always skimping on something.

this is just further prrof that GM is in far worse shape than any of us had expected. sadly reality is, that they don't have a clue, let alone a plan, to drag themselves out of the mess they are in. There is no significant product right now or arrivng shortly that will make an impact. not one. as for Cadillac - fast forward 2 years and what have you got? Cadillac with the CTS, and new SRX and old leftover STS, DTS and XLR or none of those 3, and the lame duck Escalade. (a lambda Cadillac is likely, but not too soon.) Cadillac is going to end up like Buick and Pontiac, with only a few lines to sell. Does everyone still thing that GM can keep 8 brands alive and kicking with sub-20% market share?

maybe you'll have better luck at www.thegmsource.com

personally, I have a tough time believing that anyone who has 6,596 posts in 22 months has ANY job, let alone a job of any significance within GM or any other large corporation. as for the "i only posted the picture that someone sent me without checking into it at all" seems eeerily similar to the circumstance that brought down Josiepooi. (boy, those were good times 'sniff, sniff. I miss josh)

on behalf of the membership, let me say 'thank you' for one of the best thread on this site in ages. almost as much fun as that 'shelving' incident!!!

zero impact based on this stuff alone. it will take another decade of shoddy product to change the perception of the consumer.

you forgot the Beretta.