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no it means it is on the detroit show car from two years ago

V12 was killed over a year ago. no CTC currently planned for next-gen CTS (from what I've heard). ULS prob on hold until some things stabilize for GM and and the US auto industry.

they've done it before

i don't know can't see paying $10/month to listen to the radio

is it possible that Sprint just hires stupid people?

just like the plastic timing belt.

BM return count = 2 and with such class I might add!!!

BM Return count - 1

can we add a poll to this thread to see how many more times BM comes back for one last comment.

Step 21 of Buickman's RTG plan is to rebrand all of GM's engines HEMI.

did u forget to take your medication today? cause you're a little more delusional than usual.

can't put one over on you!!!

i think it is time to reveal the second twenty steps. it seems we can't agree on the potential success of the first 20, but maybe you've got some nuggets down there in the 30's. i'm going to go on a limb here and suggest that while you are a successful salesperson that the Next 20 can't be so visionary that a public disclosure of them would have a significant impact on anything or anyone.

then they're not doing it right. a guy, a gun, a couple of bullets. shouldn't cost that much.

sedan

a 24 year old woman I know drove her mom's new G6. She LOVES it! Is she in the minority? Maybe. But I gotta believe that the majority of people aren't 1/10th as passionate about cars as the people on this site.

so either 1 more year or 2 depending on when production ends. i'm no techie, but i wonder if anything else could have been done to keep it alive. i mean, it's not like the LS7 is a new design.

it's cancelled so GM can focus on the pull ahead of the GMT-1000 SUV's for 2011.

almost borders on conspiracy theory. problem with it, is that a secret that big would take years to play out and people wouldn't keep quiet about it. they can't even keep a picture of a car secret. i don't have enough background to comment on the fiat or subaru issues. suffice to say, $4B to fiat was not a good thing. i think some of your rhetoric needs to be toned done. it is very volatile. if you want to be successful then you need to drum up some serious supporters both within gm and within the dealer community. i'm not sure what affect you spending all your time on chat rooms is having. most of the people here are kids, and vast majority are not in the auto industry. we just have an obscure love for the general, either what it was or what it could be, few for what it is. but even if we all supported you and i'm not sure what that'd get you.

an interesting thread that seems to interest all of 5 people, and amuse another 2-3 more to respond. GM marketing sucks. not much argument about that. and really, they need to figure it out. establish what each brand represents, then market the heck out of it, without changing your mind every 9-12 months. the problem with buickman's RTG(return to greatness) is: - the title is all wrong. these 20 points are not the return to greatness, but rather 'a marketing plan worth considering' - the insiders fbod, evok and O.C. all seem to think the ideas have been tried and will not work - Buickman's approach to get himself heard. which goes something like this. ' wagoners a bum, the board of directors are buffoons, the sales guys are crooks, and the senior marketing team are fools. but i sell lots of cars at my dealership so listen to me. If you have the ear of all those other dealers in the country then maybe you should form some sort of dealership advisory board and come up with a somewhat less antagonistic approach to dealing with GM and try something a little less inflamatory. btw, your passion and commitment are commendable. finally, as bad as GM marketing is, I think that quality cars with the 'gotta have it factor' will drive a lot more sales than most of the 20 ideas you have.

HUD should be more widely available. would help to reduce unit cost and make it more affordable. alas, GM will likely drop it, Toyota will add it and the press will rave about the sheer brilliance of Toyota for inventing the thing.

will be interesting to read what R&T, MT etc have to say in their comparo. no surprise that M5 won a C&D comparison. (did they ignore the electrical quibbles and flashing lights and warnings like they did on the 3Series winner a few months ago????)

if Outlook is half as good as we hope it is, then Saturn, with Sky, Aura, Outlook, new Vue(not current one, next one) will be doing a lot better than they are right now. Get a decent Ion (with a new name??) and Saturn will actually have a credible product line....... something they have NEVER had in their 15 year existence.

give it a rest. can't you go bother the people on the Ford boards.

yup. it was a shot at C&G not at BV