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It is built in US and I know personally couple veterans that drive them. It is what they sacrificed earned people right to buy whatever they want (especially if it is built in US) and put any f@cking stickers they want to on their truck. Yes it does. More reliable than F-150 and Silverado based what I hear from my coworkers that drive trucks. Old but reliable V8 and electronics that are way less glitchy. Not necessary better but they are more reliable.

If you loose your job you can sell that vehicle, and most likely end owning way less than 10k, probably loose just few grand, no more.

Maximum 15k per transaction, so you buy lets say a $35k vehicle and within a year you loose your job. You still will owe at least $25k on a loan and they will cover up to $15k. So you loose your vehicle AND will still owe about 10k in loans. How does it help people?

Jay Leno's garage (big fan too) savagegeese DriveTribe Engineered Explained The Smoking Tire Motor Trend used have excellent videos but now they want you to pay for the good stuff, so no... CarandDriver posts some good videos of their reviews as well

So true. While I had to go to work all these months and I wasn't cooped at home, my "fun car", my old Infiniti G37 was stored in the garage since late November. The stress of my wife and me being exposed by going to work and our kids staying at home without us during the day was a lot. Just recently I finally had time and opportunity to take my G out and just go for a drive. I realized how much I missed changing gears, revving a nice powerful engine (not economy 4 cylinder), and just going for a drive without any destination. Some local roads on a nice evening, it was pretty epic. I realize I have to do it more often.

Choice is good, and I am all for choice, but taking a Rembrandt painting and painting over it modern art is not a choice, but a criminal act ? Just my personal opinion

The sound of V8, straight 6 engines can't be replicated and it is not just loud noise, it is music to the ears of any automotive enthusiast worth anything I am all for EVs and some cars can be cool as restomods but taking old beautiful cars and gutting them just doesn't seem right to me.

Or transmissions ...

From my experience as an engineer, in most cases (not always) bad engineering like you describe is a result of a bad management and unreasonable constrains management and accounting put on engineer. Most engineers I know rather to overengineer thing than underengineer.

Latest JD Powers Initial Quality Study Contrary to a popular believe when manufacturer deserves recognition it gets it. GM is above average and much higher than Toyota and Honda. Koreans are killing and Tesla needs to get their sh@t together.

Well, the way I see it, buying Honda Pilot provides almost double American jobs than buying Chevrolet Traverse. That's my micro-view. And being in manufacturing myself that matters to me.

@oldshurst442 You keep blaming CR and other magazines unfairly treating US manufacturer and fabricating stories about bad quality but I see around me from my family vehicles and my coworkers and friends that the issues with quality are there. I am not saying Honda and Toyota are perfect, far from it. But I definitely see same pattern, I can give you numerous examples but it doesn't matter. All I am saying if Honda can build majority of its vehicles here and have superior quality than Ford than something is wrong. If that's UAW fault, than some drastic measures need to be taken. The pandemic showed how much in trouble we are when it was discovered that crucial medical equipment and medications are all manufactured in China and India. When sh@t hit the fan these countries will take care of themselves first of all. Politicians and accountants in charge of US companies need to wake the phak up.

Yea missed that one, sorry So it makes Ford even with Toyota. Kind of sad if you ask me.

@balthazar Numbers in that index rating and other surveys. If you have different numbers, please share. @oldshurst442 What the hell are you talking about? First of all this is not from Consumer Reports, this is Cars.com index. Secondary no one said anything about quality or reliability. This is just index of US made content of different models. Speaking of quality, if Honda can build pretty much all of their US market vehicles here with a majority of parts manufactured here as well and have good, actually very good quality, so should "phocking" Ford! Instead they save pennies by outsourcing manufacturing and build sh@t. I am all for building stuff in US and I think GM and Ford should do it more here.

Unfortunately the numbers tell a different story.

Chevy Silverado US content is 46% Out of the top 20 cars/ trucks the split is : GM - 4 vehicles Ford - 2 Honda - 7 Toyota - 3 So please tell me which company supports US manufacturing more?

Who's fault is it that Honda has substantially more US made parts and designed, builds and assembles most of its US market cars and crossovers here than GM? People argue that at the end of the day corporation is foreign and profits go abroad. However, IMO it doesn't matter if the the majority of paying JOBS building that car are here, jobs that provide livelihood to many Americans. If Honda can do that there is no reason GM or Ford couldn't do that either if they wanted. However, these corporations (and many more) are controlled by accountants that only care about saving few cents and making more profits for shareholders and the top brass. I would rather have MDX (that's on the 17s place) than Buick Enclave (51s)

At the link?

I know not everyone agrees with this rating, but nevertheless here it is: Cars.com 1. Ford Ranger (assembled in Wayne, Mich.) 2. Jeep Cherokee (Belvidere, Ill.) 3. Tesla Model S (Fremont, Calif.) 4. Tesla Model 3 (Fremont, Calif.) 5. Honda Odyssey (Lincoln, Ala.) 6. Honda Ridgeline (Lincoln, Ala.) 7. Honda Passport (Lincoln, Ala.) 8. Chevrolet Corvette (Bowling Green, Ky.) 9. Tesla Model X (Fremont, Calif.) 10. Chevrolet Colorado (Wentzville, Mo.) 11. GMC Canyon (Wentzville, Mo.) 12. Chevrolet Camaro (Lansing, Mich.) 13. Honda Pilot (Lincoln, Ala.) 14. Acura RDX (East Liberty, Ohio) 15. Honda Accord (Marysville, Ohio) 16. Toyota Tundra (San Antonio) 17. Acura MDX (East Liberty, Ohio) 18. Cadillac CT5 (Lansing, Mich.) 19. Cadillac XT4 (Kansas City, Kan.) 20. Ford Expedition, Expedition Max (Louisville, Ky.) 21. Cadillac XT6 (Spring Hill, Tenn.) 22. GMC Acadia (Spring Hill, Tenn.) 23. Cadillac XT5 (Spring Hill, Tenn.) 24. Lincoln Aviator (Chicago) 25. Acura TLX (Marysville, Ohio) 26. Jeep Grand Cherokee (Detroit) 27. Toyota Highlander (Princeton, Ind.) 28. Lexus ES (Georgetown, Ky.) 29. Toyota Avalon (Georgetown, Ky.) 30. Chevrolet Suburban (Arlington, Texas)

My wife drives MDX, plenty of space for a family of four. However, Pilot is much roomier, and probably Telluride is even bigger than Pilot.

Where were you, quarantine from C&G? This place can be toxic sometimes but I don't think it has coronavirus

Have you noticed how rarely you see DeLoreans on the road? Apparently their owners only drive from time to time.

And some one pointed back than also - there is NOWHERE where it says that CX-5 is rated at the bottom while saying that Mazda is rated well above average.

Care to provide link? I couldn't find these ratings.

Interesting how it will be compared to G70.