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The BEV Jeep is pretty intriguing. I wonder what size they're going with for their first BEV.

Those lights look fantastic! They're so white without any of the blue, which would look out of place on a car like this.

That feels a little ironic considering you seem to be pretty big into sustainability...

Maybe the Plaid or Hellcats shouldn't have "Track Modes" if they're supposedly not engineered for track work. We can also just take a look at their respective websites to see if they think they're not built for racetracks... Straight off Dodge's website: Straight off Tesla's website: This week, Plaid Track Mode is rolling out to Model S Plaid vehicles across North America. With Plaid Track Mode our goals were simple: achieve the quickest lap time for a production electric vehicle at Germany’s Nürburgring, and allow individual adjustability of stability control, handling balance and regenerative braking to give drivers more authority over vehicle control at the racetrack. Plaid Track Mode was developed to take full advantage of our tri-motor platform and more than 1,000 horsepower on tap, with features including: Optimized Powertrain Cooling Track driving generates an enormous amount of heat in the battery, motors, and brakes. Maximum track endurance is achieved by managing this heat to keep these components as cool as possible. When Plaid Track Mode is engaged, we drop the temperature of the battery pack and motors to create a significant amount of chilled thermal mass. Once track driving begins and heat is generated, shared coolant loops between the battery and motors keep the entire system cooler for longer. We also increase regenerative braking power, which has three major benefits: re-capture more energy during deceleration, reduce load on the friction brakes for better thermal management, and give the driver better modulation and controllability with a single pedal. Lateral Torque Vectoring Using the same foundation as Model 3 Track Mode, Plaid Track Mode relies heavily on front and rear motors to command rotation: additional torque applied to the rear axle helps turn the nose of the car into a corner; torque applied to the front axle arrests rotation to pull the car straight. Building on this principle, Model S Plaid’s dual rear motors enable full lateral torque vectoring. With Track Mode activated, Plaid automatically adjusts torque split across the rear wheels, independently, which applies a torque bias to rotate the car through turns; this increases turn-in response, improves on-center steering feel, and delivers even greater yaw control throughout a corner. Compared to traditional open- and limited-slip differentials, which must always compete between turn-in response and maximum traction, our electric motors adjust in milliseconds to give the driver both strengths simultaneously, allowing for faster turn-in, increased cornering speeds, and harder acceleration on corner exit. Adjustable Vehicle Dynamics During normal road driving, our stability control systems are optimized to limit tire slippage and maximize grip to keep the driver safe. In Plaid Track Mode, stability controls enter a race tuning to give the driver maximum control over the car’s lateral movement. With Plaid Track Mode engaged, Tesla’s Vehicle Dynamics Controller (VDC) evaluates steering angle, accelerator, and brake pedal inputs to determine where the driver wants to place the car and will permit tire slippage and automatically adjust torque split to give the driver even more authority and improved agility during high-speed cornering. For drivers who want additional adjustability over vehicle dynamics, handling balance, stability assist and regenerative braking can be changed independently based on their skill level and preferences. Adaptive Suspension Damping When Plaid Track Mode is engaged, adaptive suspension damping is optimized for track handling: reduced pitch during hard braking and fast acceleration, rebalanced damping to improve responsiveness, and faster settling of vehicle disturbances over bumpy segments to increase driver confidence. To facilitate consistent dynamic driving, ride height is set to Low on drive-off, and the suspension will no longer automatically raise to improve comfort. Performance UI We have added a track-focused user interface to provide critical performance data, including a vehicle thermals monitor, lap timer, G-meter, dashcam video capture and vehicle telemetry, along with several other customizable options. With Plaid Track Mode, we have added a host of new features to make Model S Plaid as quick around a racetrack as it is at the drag strip. Our approach focuses on allowing greater driver control and adjustability while promoting driver confidence, and like most aspects of Tesla vehicles, we’ll continue to improve Plaid Track Mode over time with future over-the-air updates. I don't think it will go completely away but I think it'll be awhile before there's a cheap sports car EV. There just isn't a business case for a 30k sports car that's an EV yet.

You can mask it, but it’s still there.

You’re comparing cheap sports cars, which do 0-60 in 6 seconds and saying there needs to be a light sporty electric car. The ones I mentioned earlier were the original Model 3 when it could be had with a much smaller battery and was supposed to cost at or around 40k. That car doesn’t exist anymore. How about cutting 12-16" off the vehicle and make it a two-door sports car? That doesn’t sound unreasonable to think that would cut 3-400lbs. If it were a two-seater, that would certainly get the 400lb out.

I don't think it would be difficult to cut 500lb off of a Model 3 to get to about 3500lbs. Actually, when they offered a RWD model, that wasn't long range, I bet that was right around 3500lbs and that's a sedan. I bet that could be made into a coupe with the same exact battery and motors therefore increasing its range AND its performance with the same parts. Their "standard range" battery and "standard range plus" battery in RWD form was good for 220 and 240 miles, respectively. That was also good for a 0-60 time of 5.0 seconds. That's a second quicker than an Ecoboost Mustang with the 10 spd.

I think that kind of goes for every manufacturer. All vehicles have a teething period that nobody should buy an all-new vehicle. Most every "car guy" knows you shouldn't own a first model year vehicle from any manufacturer, not just Tesla.

"How can we get all of the electric stereotypes into one vehicle?" -"I got you, boss."

Yep, not surprised here. I think everybody with a brain knew there would never be a sub 40k truck from them. So how late is summer 2023? Is that like 5 years since they showed it? More?

That thing stops as bad as 1 ton dually trucks. Not the greatest example of engineers being able to make anything work. You pretty much made exactly Smk's point, EVs can get after it in a straight line and nothing else. And you're the only one saying it "handles well". "There's so much pitch, dive, and roll when the GMC Hummer EV Pickup accelerates, decelerates, or changes direction, it looks like something out of a children's cartoon. This kind of silliness makes us giddy, but we also need to pause a moment and strongly recommend against ever using WTF mode on public roads. Cruising at 60 mph, the 9,000-pound Hummer needs 137 feet to stop when you mash the brake pedal on the floor. That's 3 feet farther than a 2020 GMC Sierra 3500HD diesel dually. Even with its crazy amount of regenerative braking, this truck absolutely does not have brakes commensurate with its power and speed capabilities. Think about it: In just 3.0 seconds, you're traveling fast enough to need the same braking space as a dually, and you're still accelerating like crazy. It would be beyond easy to get into a situation where you're traveling way too fast to stop for another vehicle, a pedestrian, an animal, or anything else. You might not even be able to slow down enough to make a corner if you don't lift and brake soon enough. This is a crazy amount of weight moving ridiculously fast on all-terrain off-road tires, and the laws of physics are merciless." https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2022-gmc-hummer-ev-pickup-first-edition-first-test-review/

Exactly. AMG GT's (non-Black Series) weigh 3600-3700lb, C63's weigh nearly 4000lb, M3/M4's are pretty light, in comparison but AMGs aren't all that concerned about weight, unless it's a Black Series.

Model 3 Performance is 4000-4100lbs and put down 0.95g laterally. No Lotus, but that's no joke. That's legitimate performance. https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/tesla-model-3-vs-jaguar-i-pace-vs-alfa-romeo-giulia/

The N Vision 74 is COOL AS HAIL!

I've always told people what you said plus that you know how to learn things. Even if you don't end up in your field of study, it shows that you know how to learn things and you have the ability to learn whatever new career path you'd like, like exactly what you did. My sister has her bachelors in Biochemistry and she used it for a few years and now she works for Pella Window and is in marketing.. drastic change! Speaking of Deloitte, there's a Deloitte downtown here in STL as well and I was told by a friend's sibling that once I have my CPA they could help me get a job with them. Thank you! It's been a loooong road...but I've finally done it! I've only taken two semesters off since high school (graduated in 2007) so I don't really know what it's like to not be taking classes. I was full-time for the first 5-ish years but once I started at my current employer I was only taking one or two classes a semester and trying to take something every summer, if it was available. Back in March I landed an actual accounting position within my company as I was only 1 summer class from graduating and a bachelors was required. That was a decent raise but with current inflation, the raise wasn't felt as much as it would have been a few years ago. I have a ways to go before I'm making what I would really like to make.

From one of my business etiquette classes, they highly suggested sending thank you letters and/or emails immediately. They all said, at the very least, if the decision is a tie and one wrote a letter and one didn't, you have a leg up. It will never hurt your odds, only increase them. Congrats to her! I just too my final final exam for my bachelors in accountancy. I'll FINALLY be a graduate. Funny enough, my last class was "advanced taxation". I'm not a fan of taxes so I don't plan to use my degree for a tax job. If she got her masters, does she also plan on getting her CPA? Everything I've heard/read is that a CPA will get you way further than a masters, when it comes to accounting. I assume she has the credit hours, if she got her masters. I'll be graduating with 152 credit hours after changing majors and schools a couple times when I was younger and a CPA requires 150 credit hours so that's next on my plans.

I completely agree. They make themselves seem more complex because they add unnecessary things and then they go ahead and make 90% of your interior controls all through a screen instead of just making hard buttons that everybody knows how to use. YUP! All while just being able to simply plug in when you park in your own garage instead of stopping at a gas station. So many people act like they're taking road trips every weekend and they'll be stuck wasting HOURS sitting at a charger.

Well, I certainly wouldn't put anything like that past them. They claimed the 2.7T was for trucks only then it appeared in 50k Cadillacs and then in 27k trucks again.

Oh yeah, I don't think a full EV Maverick will be here anytime "soon", just saying that it may be in the pipeline.

This isn't a stop-gap at all. This is just the same thing they've done for 100 years, 100% ICE. This appears to be a pretty awesome product, but it isn't a stop-gap-anything. It's just another truck.

While ICEs are more complex, the general public seems to see EVs as more complex, just because they're a newer technology and drastically different. At least the handful of people I've talked to that don't follow the automotive world seem to think they're more complex vehicles and are afraid of the technology being too new still to consider. General public tends to be really stupid. ?

I believe it's rumored to possibly get the Lighting treatment. I think they patented the names Maverick Lightning and Ranger Lightning.

I am a little surprised they didn't electrify this in any way. It would have been a great way to corner the 30mpg capable truck market. I know the Maverick can achieve that but, this obviously can do more work and 30mpg would probably cut into Maverick sales, assuming it wasn't 50k.

This looks SOOOOOO much better than the outgoing model! Also, the 2.7 should have been in this the second the Silverado got it. I think any of those output levels will suffice no problem here.

I do have push button start and there most certainly is an accessory mode. Just hit the start button without pressing on the brake pedal. I have my own additional subwoofer installed as OEM ones are weeeeak (10" JL Audio W6v3). My wife and I have absolutely waited in my car with just accessories on for longer than 10 minutes without the battery dying. It will auto shut off at 10 minutes but I just hit the start button again w/o pressing the brake pedal to turn accessories back on.