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I freakin HATE the darkness in winter. If i didn't sit next to a window at work, I would only see daylight on Saturdays and Sundays.

I think that's safe to answer today. No, no they are not delivering a $30,000 Equinox EV.

@Davidmay not have said "under" but he made a whole post, gobbling up GM's sauce, stating "starting @ $30,000". So even David read "around" and thought "at". Hmmmmm

On somewhat of a random thought, my local GM dealership has a new Blazer EV RS on their lot. I forgot about this yesterday. because I would have liked to walk around it. I'll have to see if it's still there over the weekend...or anytime that I may remember... https://www.steveschmittauto.com/new/Chevrolet/2024-Chevrolet-Blazer+EV-40d815390a0e0a9a7b473b129d68728c.htm They also have a Hummer EV, with a 25k markup.

I agree. The whole, "you're now getting a bigger battery and more range" thing isn't necessary. It's been proved that 250 miles of range would suffice for nearly everybody on a daily basis. Now, people who were smart and wanted the smaller battery, which would be the most efficient trim because it's the lightest with the smallest wheels, can't get the product. I get most people will get the bigger battery anyway but, the entry price of vehicles is just too high as it is. There are PLENTY of people who buy vehicles in that class who aren't getting fully loaded vehicles.

That's cool but Tesla is already building their 4680 so BMW may have a great product but it's still on the shelf, at this point.

I know the Tesla fanboys didn't want to admit it, but this was just inevitable. There was no way they could sustain a 60% market share when there are a dozen new EVs hitting the streets every year in all sorts of different categories. I don't think Tesla is going away or anything but the market share just wasn't sustainable with everything new coming out.

Yeah, and it's kind of bullsht. They knew 100% what they were doing and I hate that crap. Well, if their Ultium launch thus far is any indication, the product isn't worthy of a 30k tag either, let alone the 100k+ they've gotten for the Hummers.

No, sir. That's on GM for pricing things and making the future pricing claims. David just blindly backs them, because GM.

There was zero other reason to point out your superiority in that comment. So, yes. I did know that. That doesn't matter. They have other trims specifically FOR that. Well, they used to. Now they just charge more for the basic version, too. I don't care about that though and that wasn't even what this was about. It was the bait by GM by throwing out the phrase "AROUND $30,000". You and your favorite claim. You're as bad as FoxNews or CNN with throwing out buzzwords. You know to troll, one has to have intent to troll. I didn't make GM make any claim. I didn't make them make any price changes. I don't think calling them out for their intentional vagueness in any way is trolling. I don't understand how one could not see his hypocrisy when it comes to GM. He's called a CX-9 cramped but a Bolt as roomy?!? I mean, seriously, do you not see that?

That can't continue to happen and benefit the consumer, right? Just because there's more and you're getting more, doesn't mean that fits the bill for this consumer base. This is an EQUINOX, not a Cadillac.

I absolutely do and literally yesterday I pointed out I was wrong on dates. Need me to tag you or do you wanna feel nice and warm with what you feel is a "gotcha moment"?

Perfect for another 5k increase!

You're rght!

Hahaha well Musk as a person is a completely different issue and I can understand not liking the man. I was speaking strictly of the product(s).

You are literally giving them a pass right now. While what Rivian did was crappy, that is a completely different issue because they were already selling the vehicles at the original pricing. They didn't make that price hike before deliveries. That was about 6 months after it was being delivered. We all know what "around" means. It's a relative word that could mean all sorts of different things to all sorts of different people. They knew this. They knew exactly this. That's why I think it's crappy of them. Also, I'm not annoyed that it isn't 30k. I'm annoyed because *to me* 35k is less "around" than it ought to be. "Around" feels more like +/- 10% ($3,000, in this case).

Dang, this post started before I graduated high school! Hahaha ...I have nothing of value to add though...?

Oh boy, what a blunder that situation was for about 48 hours, until they reneged on that. What an idiotic decision to try and force previous reservation holders into the new price. If I'm not wrong, the price jump was something crazy like 15-20k, too, right?

Sorry, I am wrong here but you're off by about as much as I'm off by. It was Sept 8th, 2022. NOT 2023(duh - I should have known this). It was more like 14 months ago. Hopefully people cancel their orders here as well. Fck OEMs with this crap. I don't care what the brand is, it's crappy to do this. Whoever throws this price estimate out is a professional and this was their specialty. It wasn't just some guy who threw a number out there. There were MANY calculations figured out before and they knew damn well they couldn't hit $30,000. The same way Tesla threw out $35,000, that happened for a couple months. They did it for the headline.

I doubt people who put money down on them expected an additional 5k. I'm not reading any of that because the 30,000 was announced THIS YEAR. 2019, 2020, 2021, and 2022 are irrelevant. This is a 5k jump from September 8th, 2023. And I'll give them the "around" $30,000. but I don't think a $5,000 or 15% increase is exactly "around" $30,000. If they came out and said 32 or 33k. Sure, that's "around" 30k. 35k is as close to 40k as it is 30k. So you're cool that your beloved General is pulling the same crap as Tesla? Don't you hate Tesla and how they're ran?

What? If this was announced years ago, I'd agree. This was nnounced just earlier this year. This has nothing to do with Covid or inflation since 2019. They threw out $30,000 and knew damn well it wouldn't be 30k. It was a bait and *somewhat of a switch*. They wanted the attention-grabbing headlines. You can order a 39k Model 3 right now. For 4k you can at least get a vehicle with a reputable electric powertrain/electronics. If 5k is such a negligible amount, get the Model 3. https://www.tesla.com/model3

Already 5k more than what they said a few months ago. That's nice.

Have you ever heard of the Chevrolet Bolt? It's $26,500 before a $7500 rebate = $19,500. The Bolt EUV is about a grand more so that, too, can be had for about $20k. The Nissan Leaf qualifies for $3,750 of the federal rebate and brings the 28k Leaf down to ~24k.

I'd like to lookup those numbers as well because I doubt they'd be getting credits from Ford. They have a hybrid or plug-in hybrid version of everything they sell and they have a few EVs. I have no clue what the regulations are on this, at this point. I'd assume a lot of those credits are coming from Stellantis, as they still hardly have anything truly fuel efficient.

I don't know why you added anything up. What I showed you was the 2021 Q4 10-k. It was the totals for the years in the snippets, 2019-2021. It wasn't just a Q4 report, it was for the entire year. I don't know what numbers you're getting showing losses but if you subtract the ARC from the bottom line, they're still profitable. The ARCs were not keeping them afloat in 2021. I'm also not exactly sure how you can facepalm data directly off of the SEC's website. There is zero bias in that data.