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Thanx. It was a GLS. Black with Beige leather seats... Limo tints in the back and 3/4 windows and legal the front 2 windows... It was a beautiful car. It still is a nice car...the Alero aged well. The only thing I was less entused about was that stupid pushrod 3.4 liter V6. Not the pushrod part. The fact that GM forced Oldsmobile to use that 3.4 "value" engine. It was a great engine when new. But it became a dog later. I wish the Alero was offered with that sweet Shortstar...the Alero would have been a rocket...and a REAL competitor to the foreign makes that GM was tooting for Oldsmobile in 1996 or 1997... Its nice to see Buick pick up where Oldsmobile left off though. But I aint a Buick guy. Im an Olds guy...

Im a little late to this party...but it is an interesting topic. Ive read most of all posts in this thread, some of it I agree with...and obviously, some of it I dont. I'll just give my two cents of why Johan should be left alone to do his thing. First of all, he just got there. Second of all, product development BEFORE he got there just hit the showroom...aka new gen CTS, ATS and soon CT6. He made adjustments to the CT6. He ressurected and green lit dead projects due to the bankruptcy. The naming scheme can be discussed further if flop or success, but it is too early for that...however, his naming scheme has lots of logic to it. All this Audi talk about him...well, Audi is reaping the benefits from his leadership as we speak. Infiniti? That would be on Nissan or Renault or both...not on Johan... OK...here is my two cents on why it will get worse before it will get better...using Johan's words. STAND ALONE Cadillac dealerships....Cadillac needs those. Forget the value buyers....Cadillac SHOULD NOT be chasing those guys. Therefore prices should remain where they are...if not higher than they are...however...a REAL luxury stand alone dealership is necessary to impress the "former" BMW, Mercedes, Lexus buyers. Perception is part of Cadillac's problem...I agree...that is why price maybe a factor...because potential buyers dont view Cadillac as top tier 1 just yet...but part of that perception problem could be rectified with....stand alone deaerships. 1. Unique buying experience...especially compared to a regular GM store. 2. Cadillac could re-invent the dealership experience...to gain some luxury points too. 3. Cadillac needs EXPERT salespeople that KNOW the Cadillac...from engine to software to what kind of cow was used for the leather...and they need this type of salesperson to identify key buyer wants and needs...the LUXURY buyer that is... 4. A REAL stand alone LUXURY dealership also becomes a more personalized buying experience...with all the froo froo brown nosing techniques that luxury buyers EXPECT... 5. This applies at the service department as well....ESPECIALLY at the service department...How can a pampered stuck up luxury buyer feel rich and important when joe blow has his Cruze serviced at the same bloody dealership?

My name speaks volumes about my love affair with Oldsmobiles. I owned a 1985 Oldsmobile Delta 88. I bought it used in the mid-1990s. It was a beater but oh...what I wonderful time I had with it. I bought a brand new 1999 Olds Alero. I dont have it anymore. I dont miss it all that much today...but I do miss the Alero's profile and silhouette. It reminded me of my utmost favorite car of all time...a 1969 or 1970 Oldsmobile Cutlass. Hurst Olds for a 1969 Cutlass and a 442 for a 1970 Cutlass. Here is my Alero.

No need to say anything...usually...we have similar thoughts and ideas. This here is no different. I am a smallish guy..at 5'6 1/2 " tall, I fit comfortably in just about anything. I usually find the perfect driving position almost immediately in any vehicle. Even huge Ford F-350s.

I saw my first Chevy Colorado live in the wild yesrterday.... My My...it is a strikingly good looking truck. I saw it at the auto show...it looked huge...but in the wild...it looked like a perfect sized pick-up truck for the avergae joe that needs to haul around stuff. Im not a truck guy...so my opinion of this shall remain neutral and void of any criticism or praise. When I posted my remark on this...I did not see your post. My thoughts exactly.

Is it really necessary to have 6 way power seats? 8 way? Unlimited? I get it...we should be comfortable when we drive...but even with a so called cheap 4 way...surely we could find a reasonably comfortable driving seating position... OMG...first world problems.... Not too rag on you...I dont know you well enough to rag on you...I just want to show you where I stand on non-issues...

The Camaro isn't really in competition with the 4-series, someone before posted about the Camaro being an M4 killer. I am not a BMW fan boy, but I wouldn't under estimate the M3/M4. But again they aren't really in competition, one is a luxury car, one is not. Yeah I am constantly perplexed why people cross-compare these cars when they are not cross-shopped. I love GM. I love Chevy and Cadillac, but I have no desire or delusions that a Camaro would be cross shopped with a BMW, Cadillac, Benz, or Lexus. I do, however, believe that the Camaro will perform as well as many of the similar HP/Handling cars from those makers. Why?? Its a Pony car for the 21st century. It has technology that blurs the lines between it and the perceived luxury car.. but so does my Impala.. so doe the Cruze, or Sonic. I am not talking about the Camaro being cross shopped against the BMW...4 Series or otherwise.... I am talking about pure performance criteria. I am talking about driving feel. I am talking about driving dynamics. I am talking about handling...you know...Bimmers are known to have this magical formula that puts the driver in a daze of driving extasy... Well...because the Cadillac ATS has shown to out-BMW iat BMW's own game, logically, the Camaro shouts as well. And, because the Alpha plaform Camaro is closer to what a BMW 2 door 3 Series coupe was all about in the 1980s....I find this comparo more pleasing then the ATS comparo versus a BMW 4 Series. Again...Camaro Turbo 4 versus base 4 Series BMW...

Im also excited with the turbo 4... Almost giddy about it. Knowing that it will be light on its feet...Im mostly curious to see how it fairs with BMWs...the base turbo 4 Camaro against a base 4 Series Bimmer... Chevy/GM is really taking it to the Germans and BMW...with the Camaro and Cadillac... Here is me being giddy about it... Yeah...like a little girl...but I assure you folk of Cheers and Gears....Im a most manly of men...the manliest...

Yeah...I made it. Im getting used to the lay out. I even double posted by accident. At least it was from my own doing... Hey look...no software shenanigans... Dont worry Casa...I will find a way...by myslef. Practice...I think I succeded... Tough luck Casa... II wonder if there is a direct youtube link in here? Dont worry...Ill figure it out.

When the 5th Gen Camaro turned up in renderings...BEFORE the cartoon movie came out...I was like WOW! But then I just fell outta love with that Camaro...thanx in part to the movie...I was more in love with the ragedy 1977 Camaro than the brand new POS...partly because sellout...partly because the performance numbers were less than satisfactory. It has been for the longest time for me...like you... 1. Challenger 2. Mustang 3. Kevin Morgan Trans Am....and I did not like that one either because I KNEW it was a clunky Camaro underneath...sure... REAL Trans Ams were always Camaros underneath...but Pontiac never the less...400 cubic inches.. 4............ In 2014 though...I respect the performnce cred of the Camaro...ZL-1 and Z/28... But...the 6th generation Camaro...Im slowly falling in love with it. Because the performance cred promises to blow EVERYTHING outta the water...including German muscle...ESPECIALLY that BMW M4...I cant wait to see the numbers...in all categories...I bet it will SHAME a BMW M4 at its own game... Also...because Chevy smoothed out the clumsy lines of the 5th gen...my order is now... 1. Challenger/Camaro 2...ONLY the Mustang GT350......Ford could kiss my butt for ALWAYS pushing ecoboost...

When the 5th Gen Camaro turned up in renderings...BEFORE the cartoon movoe cae out...I was like WOW! But then I just fell outta love with that Camaro...thanx in part to the movie...I was more in love with the ragedy 1977 Camaro than the brand new POS...partly because sellout...partly because the performance numbers were less than satisfactory. It has been for the longset time for me...like you... 1. Challenger 2. Mustang 3. Kevin Morgan Trans Am....and I did not like that one either because I KNEW it was a clunky Camaro underneath...sure... REAL Trans Ams were always Camaros underneath...but Pontiac never the less...400 cubic inches.. 4............ In 2014 though...I repect the performnce cred of the Camaro...ZL1/Z28... But...the 6th generation Camaro...Im slowly falling in love with it. Because the performance cred promises to blow EVERYTHING outta the water...including German muscle...ESPECIALLY that BMW M4...I cant wiat to see the numbers...in all categories...I bet it will SHAME a BMW M4 at its own game... Also...because Chevy smoothed out the clumsy lines of the 5th gen...my order is now... 1. Challenger/Camaro 2...ONLY the Mustang GT350......Ford could kiss my butt for ALWAYS pushing ecoboost...