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Stop horsing around people. You are making enough asses out of yourselves with these lame duck jokes. We could continue with this monkey business until the cows come home. The truth of the matter is, we are beating a dead horse with the elephant in the room, which is badgering us to death with this dog and pony show. Ive had it up to here with this cock and bull story. So im gonna stop piggybacking all of this and ill take the bull by the horns because there is more than one way to skin a cat to finally stop...

I ran out of editing time... IE...VW CEOs should not only get the axe...THEY should get HEAVILY fined PERSONALLY (enough to bankrupt them personally, because they have bankrupted morals and ethics) and sent to jail...ITS CRIMINAL what they did...to frauding the public with FALSE claims of what their products do and for KILLING the planet KNOWINGLY and WILLFULLY...

Sure...there are far worse things that cause far worse air pollution...but just because VW's 'clean' diesel pollutes less than other sources of air pollution...it DOES NOT MAKE IT LESS PROBLEMATIC therefore LESS PUNISHABLE...pollution is still pollution... Ted Bundy is no less a monster than Adolf Hitler because the death count is less... Like I said...I have more of a problem with corrupt corporate culture than the actual VW circumventing thing in itself...but...Im still peeved at the fact that VW promoted and marketed and sold to the citizens of the world that their diesels are actually compliant with the EXISTING laws...THEY LIED to the citizens of the world...THIS SHOULD NOT BE TAKEN LIGHTLY...its part of the corrupt corporate culture that we need to change...

The Encore is not luck...GM/Buick saw a niche in the making and decided to dip into it...and Buick had nothing to lose....like you said...all Buick had was the Enclave in the SUV/CUV market...and noticed that other small CUV type vehicles from other makes were selling not too shabby, so GM/Buick took a relatively risk free bet...

There is one civic address that I wouldnt mind living in... 1600. I wouldnt want the job that comes with the house though. It ages you quite fast. The job that is...not the house itself...

Yup...I know... There was a hidden message with my post too in response to that...I saw something else other than the "white people" schtick...a little more closer to MY home...

You are full of mistakes... 1. Mistaken that El K is American...It was Mulroney for us Canucks in '88...#mulroney88!!! 2. El K is not of Greek decent...Wings and I are...so...Id be careful in how I say things around here... because although cheersandgears might be headquartered in the US...and on your side of things it might very well be Bubblewrap County, USA...on my side of the internets... THIS IS... And if you dont like that...what that dude on top said afterwards... So...How do you like them apples?

Yes...it is a very complex issue. Especially when there might be other automakers with diesel engines that may not be so clean...I have a feeling..VW may not be the only one to circumvent...however, they did get caught regardless if first and more automakers to come or the only ones... However...contrary to how you and others feel about it...and yes..very clever...ingenious...but... http://adage.com/article/cmo-strategy/audi-s-truth-engineering-ads-back-bite-amid-probe/300472/ That link contains a video clip link about an Audi commercial that aired during last week's Emmys... It aint easy being green....touting the new Audi A3 hybrid... Also... The Green Police....Superbowl Commercial a while back... I dont know about you...I dont enjoye being LIED too...being made FUN of...being TRICKED and FOOLED... Well...the government HAS to legislate fossil fuel cars...look how VW is trying to circumvent...you say they are desperate...I say they arent trying hard enough...these are German engineers after all...nothing but the best, right? They did help get America to the moon, right? Rockets...Arthur Rudolph and Wernher von Braun were German engineers...*COUGH-NAZIs-COUGH* that America hired after the war...to not only get to the moon, but ballistic missiles...I mean...if German engineering can get to the moon, surely a few MPGs may not be that hard to gain...after all, these NAZI minded VW engineers did think of a VERY SLY way to CIRCUMVENT... A little bird told me that anabolic steroids were also of a NAZI regime era invention...and the East Germans totally used that during the Olympics FIRST....it seems to me that Germans are MASTERS of CHEATING!!! So there is that! About Tesla and battery charging and not enough stations... Quebec has thought of a nice plan...but I wont talk about Hydro-Quebec's solution...I read this past week of an ingenious way that the Brits are thinking about...and it involves a technology that is similar to wireless charging systems for smart phones... http://spectrum.ieee.org/cars-that-think/transportation/advanced-cars/british-highway-will-recharge-your-batteries-as-you-drive http://money.cnn.com/2015/08/18/technology/uk-electric-cars-roads/ http://www.citylab.com/commute/2015/08/the-uk-is-testing-roads-that-recharge-your-electric-car-as-you-drive/401276/ Three links...choose and read one of them... So...there is that also... I know...Im just trying to give you an intelligent rebuttal.... Yeah...it honestly put a small smile on my face...but my rebuttal to you is really how I feel...I dont like being duped and made fun of...especially when destroying the planet is concerned...yeah...those commercials are the culprit of my frustrations... I am NOT a tree hugger....but I certainly dont condone pollution...but its this corporate marketing BS that I HATE the most...Green Police...It aint easy being green...while true dont lie that VW AG is a "green" company when KNOWINGLY you circumvent laws... The painting of ALL Germans in 2015 as Nazis is just me being melodramatic...Im Greek after all...its what we do... Im more or less in agreement with the rest of your post... As far as VW/Porsche/Mercedes and Hitler...GM and Ford were also tied to Hitler....GM...through Opel...produced Nazi Germany's transport trucks... The USA hired Von Braun...NASA, GM and Von Braun collaborated together...Id say the Nazi thing is played out enough... PS...I more peeved at this world wide corporate culture society that lets corporate greed rule us than the actual VW emissions scandal...this corrupt corporate culture needs to stop world wide...

Are you suggesting that a certain someone get I can get down with that...

I assume you are not talking to me, as I don't see what you are talking about. That's just so "cray cray" to constantly think that you are the center of the universe. Its OK...Its OK... Its in our DNA to think this way... A loooong time ago...there was a saying... Greece is in the center of the Universe, Athens is in the center of Greece and the Parthenon is in the center of Athens. And his ancestry comes from a place..where I think, had more of an allegiance towards Athens more than to Sparta...so...

CP meant the "winged" part...I believe. Correct, I was trying to respond to Balthazaar, but it took me too long to dig up that picture at work and you snuck in that post about the waterfall grille before I finished. Not sure why someone downvoted you, so I fixed that. tHANX...ITS bURNT ls7 DudE...He has gone on a downvoting spree with me... He dont like me too much... So yeah...Buick's design language is elegant. It can be aggressive with huge waterfall grills and still look good, or toned down and have an air of debonair... I still prefer Oldsmobiles... I prefer Oldsmobiles too. You are not alone. I just saw this post... In these forums...I noticed that there are many Oldsmobile faithful around... I feel right at home...

^^^ Now THAT is even funnier that grumpy old automotive employee comments.

Yeah but...dont you remember...not really entirely Greek???!!! We've discussed this you and I before...

Of course it's funny, why else did I say 'good for you.' I mean, calling Ford employees trolls is hilarious.....as he trolls other threads for responses. You made this Greek boy so proud. Bravo Koukla!!! Greeks...usually...have a sense of humour... Of all ethnics...we..Greeks...could laugh at ourselves...(See Stathis Psaltis) And...Im Canadian besides all that...Canadians...also could laugh at ourselves (See Rick Moranis)...Canadians find it easier to laugh more at Americans (with them...not at them...see Dan Aykroyd and John Candy) So...you trying to shame me...wont work... Especially the on Greek part...

It was funny... Lighten up... At least he did not call you a grumpy old Greek... But Greek version... With a bouzouki in his arms... - Teach me to dance! - Dance? Did you say...dance? Come on my boy! OPA! Yia Sou Leventi! PS: there is a message in that song...listen to the whole clip...the Englishman learns to have...fun...he laughs at the end...

I gave you the thumbs up for 2 reasons... 1. It was funny! 2. I KNOW it will get thumbed down....so..a preemptive thumbs up BEFORE the predictable thumbs down. But I set myself up for failure....its OK... Ill take this one for the team...fallen soldier Ill become... Ill be remembered in song and in literature.

Sharp little car...very European in flavour. Why is it that Im thinking that this car is 20 years too late? Why is it that Im thinking that this car would have made an excellent Saturn...or even a nice early 2000s Oldsmobile but why is it that dont I like it has a 2016 Buick? When I heard news of this last year, I was happy for Buick, but fast forward a year later with viewing it with Buick clothes on instead of Opel clothes, and Im in the least bit interested and kinda disappointed in it... Maybe the Avenir is giving me thoughts of grandeur for Buick and maybe I need to settle down my expectations of Buick... Or maybe...Buick should start getting with the program a little bit faster with products that make us salivate...this wont make anybody salivate...even the aforementioned ladies between the ages of 40-50. Because even those ladies...they probably salivate thinking about driving around in Bimmers...

Yeah...That Grand Prix's butt is nice...I must admit, fit and finish is better on the Pontiac. Trick lights and mouthy grilles is how you like 'em... COOL!

The Imperial has a nice rear end...from the Random Thoughts Thread... But my utmost favorite rear end of all time on a car is... And the front of the car aint too shabby either.

CP meant the "winged" part...I believe. Correct, I was trying to respond to Balthazaar, but it took me too long to dig up that picture at work and you snuck in that post about the waterfall grille before I finished. Not sure why someone downvoted you, so I fixed that. tHANX...ITS bURNT ls7 DudE...He has gone on a downvoting spree with me... He dont like me too much... So yeah...Buick's design language is elegant. It can be aggressive with huge waterfall grills and still look good, or toned down and have an air of debonair... I still prefer Oldsmobiles...

Hey El K....you were right. Those Blue Jays...they are one exciting team to watch... I finally became a Blue Jays fan... It took awhile, but I made it through. Yeah...its more of a bandwagon type deal...but hey...I got no Expos to cheer for...and I do LOVE baseball... Jose Bautista...I havent seen an arm like that since...Montreal's (British Columbia's) Larry Walker... And...as I type this...bottom of the 9th...homerun...and then double...to maybe win the game? How effin awesome is THAT???!!!

CP meant the "winged" part...I believe.

http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/newscience/2013/11/diesel-lung-cancer-deaths/ From the link above: An estimated 6 percent of lung cancer deaths in the United States and the United Kingdom – 11,000 deaths per year – may be due to diesel exhaust, according to a new study. Emission standards for diesel engines have become more stringent in recent years, but their exhaust still plays a significant role in lung cancer deaths among truckers, miners and railroad workers, the authors wrote. In addition, diesel exhaust still poses a major cancer threat for people living in dense cities or near highways, they said. Thanx CCAP for the link over at MT... Take that as how you will...but...pollution is pollution... You have to start somewhere to clean up the planet...

Im of the opposite opinion... Although this face on the Altima does look cleaner than Maxima's and Pathfinder's face...I dont think that new Altima face looks good on that Altima body...as where the Maxima face...effed up as it is...goes nicely with all the other crazy things the Maxima's lines do... I dont like that Altima...but somehow...I LOVE the Maxima...so Maxima for me please!!! I think I know why I dont like the 2016 Altima...its BO-RING!

The latest news about Buick inspired me to do Buick Hot Rods.