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I would hurt VW long term.... imagine if 2.8 million Germans could suddenly not drive their cars for 3 to 6 months while VW issues a fix.... do you think they would buy another? Resale value would be destroyed. This is the German government forcing VW's hand... and it is an effective threat I think. I really do not believe they need to apply much more pressure. They know they are globally in trouble PR wise and they are already working on a fix. They have already forced people out and I suspect more will fall. It will take some time to make the parts. I am sure the agencies of many countries will require them to recertify the cars and changes made. And then they have to get the parts made and then the customers to the dealers. There is no fast track to this and you can apply all the pressure in the world but it will take 2 years if it goes fast to fix a majority. Then they will have to eat the cost of parts, labor, fines, recertification, legal fees and many other things. This will be very expensive in the end. I bet it tops 25-35 billion Dollars in the end minimum. It will for sure hurt VW either way. But if the government stops me from driving my car for no real logical reason till a fix is approved that is a sure way not to be reelected. Lets face it even with the failing readings these engines are cleaner than the diesels of the last 100 years. People are not falling over in the streets and what the media fails to report is many of the 11,000 that are claimed to be victims already smoked themselves into respiratory failure before they were affected by the fumes. You would have to almost live in a truck stop with running trucks for years to do that much damage. Lets face it the people most exposed to Diesel fumes are Farmers with a stack in the face as well heavy equipment workers. You do not see them dropping like flies. This EPA stuff is as much agenda as it is to clean the environment. It is brought to you buy the same people who are promoting the carbon exchange. There is big major profits in environmentalism. YOU are putting the BLAME on the WRONG entity... Dude....its pollution... The cars are not LEGAL... I dont give two shytes if its the same people that are pushing carbon taxes... Yoy dont want to re-elect the officials that are ushing for VW to clean up the mess... Again...YOU are blaming the WRONG people... VW AG are the ones that sold YOU the ILLEGAL car... Again...who gives two shytes what the media is pushing for???!!! The cars as is ....would NOT have been sold if the cars originally FAILED the EPA emissions tests... I get it...YOU are stuck with NO vehicle to drive and out thousands of dollars... VW AG is the one to blame... GREEDY CEOs that run/ran VW AG... You live in America...the land of lawsuits... In the ONE time that a collection of lawsuits SHOULD be had against a corporation its THIS one... Nothing FRIVOLOUS about that... Do I have to re-link the VW commercials again???!!! You...to save face even...dont even want to admit the cancerous shyte box you are driving is an ILLEGAL polltun' machine!!! And do you know why Im being aggressive with you? Its because YOU are an intelligent guy...yet...here you are...you are even blaming YOUR government for this mess...and you know what? ITS THE GERMAN GOVERNMENT THAT MAY BE FORCING THE VW DIESELS OFF THE ROAD IN....GERMANY!!! NOT IN THE USA....SO....WHY ARE YOU EVEN MENTIONING YOUR GOVERNMENT IN THIS???!!! Dont tell me you are yet another American who DOES NOT TRUST their own DEMOCRATIC ELECTED Government...Every 4 years you guys get to elect YOUR leaders...unless of course the USA is in some sort of dictatorship that I dont know about... Besides all that...you guys have the RIGHT to bear arms... The thing is...you could talk to your fellow congressman to tell him how you fell about VW and its policies regarding this mess!!! GEE WEEZ!!!

Yes I know... Other industries pollute....so lets give free reign for VW AG to lie, cheat, fraud, and pollute... Timely fashion to get these cars off the road? THEY SHOULDNT BE ON THE ROAD TO BEGIN WITH!!! THAT is a hard concept for some to accept... DOWNVOTE AWAY!!!

WHY WILL THEY BE OFF THE ROADS??? Remember that image? LEADED gasoline... Yeah well...Diesel...it turns out...is just as bad... Why dont we have LEADED gasoline in our cars anymore? ITS OK...DOWNVOTE THIS TOO...TO MASK REALITY!!! (yes...pun intended)

The thing is...VW DIESEL CARS...IF NOT FIXED...WILL BE OFF THE ROADS SOON ENOUGH!!!

VW AG LIED!!! THEY FRAUDED THE BUYING PUBLIC... THEY HAVE MADE A MOCKERY OUT OF YOU!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj9gwZIdGMs OH WELL....YOU COULD DOWNVOTE THIS POST TOO TO MAKE YOURSELVES FEEL BETTER!!!

That goes to show me how childish the guy(s) are being with this downvote... REALITY has not sank in to you... Its OK....DOWNVOTE those POSTS until I am at NEGATIVE LEVELS!!!! LIKE I SAID... STOMP YOUR FEET IN PROTEST because IM POINTING OUT THAT VW AG DIESEL CARS WILL BE OFF THE ROAD BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT LEGAL TO BE ON THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!~ DOWNVOTE THIS TOO!!! BOOM!!! GERMANY DROPS THE BAN HAMMER!!! OTHERS TO FOLLOW SUIT!!!

Downvote this again BUMP...JUST BECAUSE THE PERSON WHO DOWNVOTED COULD GET TO DOWN VOTE IT AGAIN!!! and again Downvote this too again and again

an ad blitz? You are making it waaaaay too easy for me to tie in WW2 with all this VW mess... But I wont....Ill just do The Ramones instead... Hey Ho! Lets Go! there is no question...The Colorado and Canyon will come out of this like the other song I wanna post... LIKE A ROCK! Because Bob Seger is nowhere to be found on Youtube...so the commercial will have to do...its where I wanted to go anyway...

maybe you could use google to help you with the complications...

PS... you sarcasm is not lost on me.. Except you are not that wise... Google is your friend... The thing is...the aircraft industry is not what we are talking about here... But...lets just say that the standards for a Boeing 777 Dreamliner are lower...just because the aircraft industry is allowed to pollute...tht does NOT excuse VW to pollute... If you are heading in that direction...its a one way street to a cul-de-sac... Use google translate on the last part...

Then you must ahve your answer then... Lucky for you...

Or someone who likes fitness and exercise. Esp. if they are spandex clad and out on a 105 degree day... My assumption still stands... Is it OCNBLU that is on that bike with spandex clad crappy pants out on a 105 degree day? Could very well be DUI on OCNBLU's part...

If that is what High School French in America leads you to believe...

I dont know...it depends... Are you the one on the bike?

I dont know...I sell hot dogs for a living... let me ask my dad...he worked at Canadair for 40 years....ooopsies...he is dead....died in 2006... Let me tell you about how Im supposed to run a restaurant in Quebec... This is a link... http://www.mapaq.gouv.qc.ca/fr/Transformation/Qualitedesaliments/Hygienesalubrite/Pages/Hygienesalubrite.aspx I hope you read French... I have to comply with these rules...if not...they close me down...

Me neither....it must be an internet thing.

No it aint Suave... There is NO time limit... HAD VW made those cars take the tests as is....those cars...were NOT gonna pass...therefore NOT sold... All those cars are ILLEGALLY on the road... Is it THAT hard to understand?

Because everybody else pollutes... We should just let VW CEOs oof the hook...and just leave the cars continuing to pollute... Its OK...because...well...pollution is everywhere...no need to try to curb it...or to set rules...let it be... http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/pictures/5-recent-underreported-environmental-disasters-20140407 From the link above... On March 22nd, almost 170,000 gallons of heavy marine fuel poured into Galveston Bay on the Texas coast after two commercial boats collided in the busy waterway. In Indiana, on March 24th, energy giant BP spilled as many as 1600 gallons of oil — a mix of domestic crude and tar sands oil from Canada — into Lake Michigan, the primary source of drinking water for Chicago's seven million residents. And on March 17th, 20,000 gallons of pipeline oil leaked into a nature preserve in southwest Ohio. Meanwhile, January's Elk River chemical spill, which contaminated the drinking water of 300,000 West Virginians, continues to frighten citizens, many of whom are still not drinking or bathing in it. Pollution has long been an accepted cost of cheap energy production, particularly in states desperate for jobs. Big Energy is a powerful presence in Washington, working hard to block and gut environmental regulation and to defang the agencies tasked with protecting the country's natural resources. Weak or outdated laws governing toxic chemicals, and the absence of standardized oversight, tracking mechanisms or meaningful punishment for oil spills and leaks gives industry the leeway to keep polluting. I guess...because THIS happens often....we should continue to keep a BLIND eye....no matter how big (like that Galveston Bay accident) or how small (how small you think it is....like in VeeDub's case) Sure...the guvment is stupid to actually try to punish and to try to CORRECT a fault... - The diesel cars from VW EXCEED the amounts TOLERABLE... - Had the EPA knew how bad those amounts were back then....the CARS WERE HAVE NEVER BEEN SOLD and KEPT OFF THE STREETS...BACK THEN... VW PROFITED and MADE MONEY from this FRAUD... Yet Hyper V6 sees no problems with that...yet he sees the GERMAN government trying to get these pollutants off the streets as UNREASONABLE... Yet...someone downvotes MY posts because there is a SMIDGEN of truth to my opinion....NOW you know why I went ballistic... Its ANNOYING to have some TWIT downvote you because you state an opinion....MORE SO to than that....its as close to reality as it can get!!! STOP LIVING IN A BUBBLE....accept the fact that VW did wrong...and I...am HAPPY that the HAMMER fell UPON them... Rightfully so...Im happy... VW LIED, FRAUDED the BUYING public...AND...CONTRIBUTES TO POLLUTION KNOWINGLY AND WILLFULLLY!!! Yet some moron finds a problem with me pointing that out... Sure...its over the top... Kinda like how VW's solution to circumvent was over the top..;

Reality is that...since it does not come from Motor Trend...it does NOT suck... As long as it does not come from Motor Trend...because everything from Motor Trend is garbage...

Well...times, they are a-changin'

BUMP...JUST BECAUSE THE PERSON WHO DOWNVOTED COULD GET TO DOWN VOTE IT AGAIN!!! And DOWNVOTE IT AGAIN!!! And AGAIN

BUMP...JUST BECAUSE THE PERSON WHO DOWNVOTED COULD GET TO DOWN VOTE IT AGAIN!!! And DOWNVOTE IT AGAIN!!! BUMP...JUST BECAUSE THE PERSON WHO DOWNVOTED COULD GET TO DOWN VOTE IT AGAIN!!! And DOWNVOTE IT AGAIN!!! And AGAIN

I wouldnt be sooooo hard on this...had VW AG NOT marketed to the buying public how green their cars are... Germany....VW's HOME...decided that THIS is not acceptable... You know how protective GERMANY is of their OWN industry? Ask Greece, Spain, Portugal and Italy...and even France...hell...ask ANY WW2 survivor...

There is NO plan...either FIX them or GET THEM OFF THE BLOODY road... remember this commercial? Green police... VW AG is a green company? They LIED OUTRIGHT about how GREEN their cars really are... THEY SPEW CRAP...THEY CIRCUMVENTED the software to show that the cars are LEGIT...but the cars aint LEGIT... The people whose cars cant be driven? Well they have LEGAL RECOURSE TO SUE VW AG!!! I guess though...in Mr Capitalism's Hyper V6's world...corporations are FREE TO PHOQUE THE WORLD!!!

EPA laws are there for EVERYBODY to repesct and to COMPLY... Who the hell is VW CEOs to circumvent them??? Bosch even WARNED them NOT to install those on the cars to be sold to the public... Yeah I know...the guvment's fault because the drunk outside your street pissed on the sidewalk...and did not shot to maim him...