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Another Maple Leaf victory on US soil in Boston. This one is a blue Maple Leaf. Last week was the national Red one. How fitting. In the city where the cry for US independance started...

Yes exactly. I thought so about Hyundai and KIA being in a better place to withstand US tariffs. I am niot so sure though, if they could compete with an onslaught of cheaply priced Chinese EVs. The US car market is one thing, but the Chinese OEMs will flood the WORLD with their cheaply priced EVs. And eventually, these EVs will make it to US shores, tariffs or not. But by that time, I fear a US civil war. 25% tariffs on aluminium alone is said to cost 100 000 US jobs https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/alcoa-warns-trumps-aluminum-tariff-could-cost-100000-us-jobs-2025-02-25/ https://www.theglobeandmail.com/business/article-alcoa-warns-100000-us-jobs-at-risk-urging-tariff-exemption-for/#:~:text=American aluminum giant Alcoa Corp,tariffs on shipments from Canada. Dont forget that Canada will have retalitory tariffs. And those will be targetted to Red States. And dont forget that Europe will strike with some sort of economc stresses of its own ON the US if Trump targets MORE European targets. 25% tariffs on some raw materials ALSO target Europe. NOT only Canada... The MAGA voters, as MUCH as they follow the cult leader Trump, some of them WILL turn on him. And those mouth breathers own guns. LOTS of them. What will Trump do? Attempt to take those away from them/ Eithr way, I see lots of doom and gloom...

You forgot to mention the Japanese car makers. Toyota might be able to weather out the tariffs, but Honda is also finished. Mazda. Hyundai/KIA might be the only ones to come out OK. All others are toast.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/25/americas/canada-petition-musk-citizenship-intl-latam/index.html https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwydeppzggno https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/article/more-than-170000-sign-petition-to-revoke-elon-musks-canadian-citizenship/ So far, 250 000 Canadians have signed a petition addressed to Prime Minister Trudeau to revoke Elon Musk's Canadian citizenship. And as a true mature sane adult he responds that Canada isnt a real country... https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/25/americas/canada-petition-musk-citizenship-intl-latam/index.html ooooooooooooh...what a burn!!!! His mommy was born in Canada... he got Canadian citizenship through her. I say he laces them up in an American hockey jersey on some sort of barn rink somewheres in rural make believe Canada and skate up to a few drunken beer league lifers and say that to them in their faces that Canada is not a real country. We, and most importantly, him, would find out how fake Canada is...

Stellantis in North America is done fer, tariffs or not. Ford and GM are almost done when those tariffs hit and are going to be done if those tariffs last a year long. All other OEMS that build their cars in Mexico to sell in the US are going to have a rotten year as well. At least Europeans will stick together and try to screw the US and thiose European OEMS will have a fightin' chance to survive. The real winner will be Chinese car makers and their EVs. They WILL flood the world market when the tariff war ends...

I too, feel like the Charger EV is DOA. I am not even sure if the inline 6 will be any more of a seller either. At this point, since Tavares quit and he was the one opposed to the V8s, yeah, it wouldnt be a bad idea to shoehorn a Hellcat one in now. We laugh at that, because its that absurd, but it is what has made Dodge a comeback the last 15 years. And its the Hellcat engine that has made Stellantis money hand over fist. While an inline 6 twin turboed to make 500 some odd horsepower in the Charger would make it a fantastic muscle coupe and sedan, the mouth breathers that buy these things want their V8 Hemis. Let it be known that I am NOT a mouth breather as I breathe through my mouth heavily, LITERALLY, every time I sees a V8 Challenger... I am talking about the OTHER mouth breathers out there of course...

1. You could follow your own response... and just ignore... OR 2. No need to whine... No need to announce quitting. Just quit. Buh-Bye!

You coud quit too. Nobody stopping you. People come and go. That is what you told me last year.

You also find it easy to whine... Want some cheese with your whine? Have a nice Quebec poutine on me. PEI potatoes. Cheese curds from Quebec. BEFORE the tariffs hit next week. If you havent noticed, whether you find it easy to talk about politics or not, with Trump as President, you cant avoid it. You actually have to deal with it THIS time around. THIS time around, politics has become a real threat to our livelyhoods whether you find itmeasy to ignore it or not...

Its lovely, right? <rolls eyes> To be honest... Its damn near IMPOSSIBLE NOT to talk about "politics" when the President of the United States of America has forced his ideals in EVERY aspect of North American life. Even in NHL hockey... And this little thing of tariffs that will affect every little aspect of North American life INCLUDING the automobiles we love to talk about on this website... This is in Germany BTW Just for starters Yeah...aint it lovely???!!!

Yup. And wait until all other product related tariffs other than oil of jut 10% hit. Its not just Durnagos with V8s that will get hit. Stellantis in general along with Ford and GM. Other car manufactures too like BMW and VW. But at least those guys have Europe to sell to. GM and Ford are done for. I feel like the catastrophe that WILL come to US automanufacturing is not talked about. And its a mistake to downplay what these Trump proposed tariffs not only on Canada's and Mexico's raw materials are going to do, but Trump is going to tariff European materials too. Problem is, the world is getting ready to isolate the US fromm EVERYTHING. But, this being an automotive forum, an enthusiast one at that: Hey! We can STILL buy a Hellcat Dodge product. Aint that great???!!!

Gasoline prices may also play a factor? In Quebec, gasoline prices have stabilized. I am not sure, but Im thinking that many parts of the US, gasoline prices have soared since 2024. A hefty SUV like a Durango with thirsty V6 and V8 engines are a death knell to such vehicles. And yes, in the US as well.

RIP Roberta Flack

You are not very far with that insight. Stellantis has reneged the death of the Hellcat as they promised they'll do. They kept the Durango Hellcat for one more year. And for EXACTLY the reasons you stated.

All good. Im just happy there are still some people intrigued about Ancient Greece to still want to talk about Greece's history. Im also sad that even when people KNOW about Greek history, they do NOT learn ANYTHING about it and are doomed to repeat all the crap that that era's people had to endure. An expression that was coined in the beginnings of the last century only for the world to witness a war to end all wars not even a decade after that expression was coined. Evils happened again (1933-1945) and ironically today's peoples, as in folk of 2025, are still dumb, deaf and blind and have learned nothing and are in the wake of repeating what EVERYTHING that happened to Socrates in Athens a couple of thousands of years ago, to the greed of WW1 and the evils of 1933-1945 SIMULTANEOULSY... And the WARNING signs are all WRITTEN in the HISTORY books... ALL THERE for us to learn and AVOID and become better with our civilizations. What a vicious circle of shyte we humans like to throw ourselves to.

You have no idea how us, Canadians, are angry at all of this. Because of one man... And we are in shock how fast some Americans have turned against us Canadians because of one man's lies. We are disgusted and hurt. Angry and afraid. But we are united as we have never have been before. Florida is said to lose BILLIONS in Canadian snowbird tourist dollars. We are actually looking at packaging to see what American products we could boycott at ANY store whether its at a grocery store or hardware store. Never thouyght about that. Never crossed our minds. Myself included. We cant sometimes avoid to buy American, but we sure are trying to distance ourselves from you guys... Its sad. All because of one man's lust for power and the uneducated, bigoted neanderthals that follow him.