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Who has the bigger "package" in these two pictures?

Qualify that. Transverse engines and FWD vee engines suck to work on. Inline engines are nice. Chrysler's early 2.2L FWD were among the easiest cars EVER to work on. The oil filter is presented right up front. The 2.2L's design with both the intake and exhaust on the firewall side allowed for easy access to the spark plugs and most other parts of the engine. Add a second bank of cylinders and suddenly you'd rather have root canal surgery than change the spark plugs in your car.

A Flock of Seagulls (technically not a "hair band") was on the NBC show "Hit Me Baby One More Time" last summer where they performed with the likes of the Motels (or atleast Martha Davis of...), Tiffany, the Knack (or atleast Doug Figer of...), Wang Chung, Vanilla Ice, Tommy Tutone, and Missing Persons. Back to the subject, I was a big "hair band" fan back in the day. But my tastes tended to shy away from the Poisons and Warrants of the world. I still like Def Leppard, Kix, House of Lords, and the like.

I liked Slang...but I want Def Leppard to do another record like High 'n Dry...forget Pyromania and Hysteria...let's get a REAL rock album!

SciGuy: Should Carrie Underwood be honored to be put among a list of guys? I can see this one going either way.

Have you ever changed the spark plugs on the "back" bank of a V6 on a transversely-mounted engine? It's not fun. The narrow bank angle allows for more space around the engine for crash protection, serviceability, and ease of assembly.

The "inline vee" six-cylinder Volkswagen engines are said to be about as long as a four-cylinder inline engine.

They had a staggered start and measured the race based on starting position.

A horizontally opposed engine is a vee engine...with a 180-degree bank angle. Except at particular angles (due to the width of the head) will a vee engine of less than 180-degrees be wider than a flat engine. The two designs should be the same length (assuming all internal dimensions are the same, there's no reason why bore spacing couldn't be the same), but a flat engine is just about as wide as you're going to get. Volkswagen has a series of vee engines (V5 and V6) that are designed with 15-degree bank angles.

What about a 1962 Oldsmobile F85?

From what I gathered, it's definitely a 2 door.I was thinking 1962-63....but something about the above Impala doesn't seem to match the jumble.

Some were front-drive.

Volkswagen has offered them for....um...nearly 70 years. Italians made them as well.

I thought Wal-Mart (15 years ago) touted the fact that so many of their items came from the US. Am I mistaken? I know it's not that way now...but wasn't it?

I thought that too...the "lost" generation, but that's not what I've been led to believe. 200 years in the US and 20 years per generation....10 generations. Thus, Generation X.And "Generation Y" was just the next letter in the alphabet.

So should it have been "give 'em the whole 72 yards?"

Why does this argument "lose merit" when it addresses transplants only? If you discount the Aveo and GTO and Saabs...and most of the Lexus and Scion brands (and a handful of Toyotas), that seems to be the appropriate comparison. Toyota produces well over a million vehicles a year in North America and, by your numbers, they have over 70% domestic content.Domestics are making more "imported" vehicles and the foreign-based companies are expanding their US and Canadian production. Toyota and Honda and Nissan are hiring more workers in the US and Canada while GM and Ford are hiring more workers in Mexico, China, South America, and Europe to replace closed factories and suppliers in the US and Canada. Why is this a pointless fact? Secondly, have you ever read the law that defines "domestic content?" It gives domestic manufacturers an edge in the calculation. I don't recall the specifics (you can read it for yourself), but the same part can be "imported" or "US/Canadian" depending on WHO is putting it into their vehicle. The example I recall explained how two vehicles built in the same North American plant would count the exact same part (from the same source) as "imported" or "domestic" depending on who's vehicle it was put in. The law favored the domestics. Third, while new transplant jobs are not replacing lost Big3 jobs 1-for-1, this is not the fault of the transplants. For years, the Big3 have been forced to have a bloated workforce. They have far too many workers for the number of vehicles they produce, and it's not their fault. The transplants have established new factories and supplier bases who do not come with the legacy (read: UAW/CAW) costs and can staff up or down to their requirement. Nissan, for example, has had among the fewest workers on the line per vehicle built for many years while GM is required to keep a certain employment level, whether or not those people are actually adding to the productivity of the plant.

Actually, no. Everyone makes arguments using only the facts pertinent to their side...and avoiding the facts that disprove your point. It happens on both sides...and this site is obviously doing that.

More importantly, what's the unemployment rate in the area?

I've got a problem with "Generation Y" personally. "Generation X" is supposed to mean the 10th (thus X in Roman numerals), so the following generation would be "Generation XI" not "Generation Y." But that's my little OCD problem.

Propaganda is propaganda...whether it's about the Japanese or the Big3.

I've never done an illegal drug. I've done drugs (read: alcohol) when they were illegal for ME to do them, but I've never smoked, snorted, swollowed, injected, or inhaled anything illicit. I've never even felt pressure to do any. Be your own person and I can't imagine that you'd feel any pressure. If your "friends" create any pressure, find new friends. That's my answer.

sciguy: The Freestyle, according to this survey, is the most "buzz worthy" among that demographic. The Freestyle isn't even a minivan...but apparently the group of people who are leaning toward buying a minivan...aw, geez...I can't even FAKE that I trust this survey.

It's the length of a full round of machine gun ammo. To give them the "whole nine yards" is to give it everything you've got.

A "front-wheel drive stance" has nothing to do with the rear overhang and everything to do with the FRONT overhang. Notice how close the front axle line is to the windshield...and how far away from the bumper it is. The fact that the drivewheels sit entirely behind the engine is the reason for this...the rear overhang can be anything from nearly nothing (Chrysler 300M, Honda CRX) to extra long (Chrysler LHS, Chevrolet Impala). I'm going to agree with the previous post stating that this is an urban legend. I was once told by a guy that his Lincoln Town Car came with a 440cid engine. Chevrolet did not sell ANY RWD Impalas (2000-later) to the public. If they built any (and they've done stranger things), they're in the GM test mule collection or have been crushed.It's not as simple as turning the engine and putting a rear axle in place. The position of the longitudinal engine in a vehicle designed for a transverse engine would make the car quite nose-heavy.