G. David Felt

Hopefully the truck and suv lines can pick up the folks. Sucks to be laid off.

Easy, while the Journey is nice, I would rather own a GMC Terrain.

I understand the points you are stating and no one would compare an ATS to the Focus. The point I am making is that the Tesla 3 is a compact RWD Sedan EV and the BOLT is a Compact FWD CUV EV. Right now the Tesla is NOT the cheaper of the two as they will not have any fed discount.Yes the BOLT will have some options but for the most part GM has said it would be pretty much loaded from the start $37,500 or $30,000 with fed discount. Tesla 3 on the other hand will be stripped at $35,000 and you option it up to $45,000 from the info they have released. Also no where do I read that GM is only making this as a compliance car. The BOLT is what forced Tesla's hand to finally deliver the model 3 after years of delays and GM has forced Nissan to move up their Generation 2 Leaf that will have between a 200- 250 mile battery. How do you figure this is compliance only and not game changer when others are responding with like auto's in range and pure EV powertrain? Nissan and Toyota never built out any infrastructure and while Tesla Supercharge locations are stated as being available to everyone, I know that the locations in Seattle are clearly marked as Tesla owners only. So I have not seen any true public infrastructure by Tesla. Now yes West Coast is ahead of much of the US in terms of building out public charging setups but that has not stopped many other auto companies from building or announcing EV's that are coming. So this takes away your Compliance issue also. Tesla is a Niche Player that is growing much like Apple, but their are far more people who do not use Apple and there will be far more people that will not use Tesla for various reasons. You like Tesla 3 style, Great go for buying one and enjoy supporting an American Auto company. I like BOLT style and will support another great American auto company. Either way America wins.

Not unexpected and since Sergio is not bothering to invest the profits back into making dodge, ram, jeep and chrysler better, he is wasting it on Alfa and Fiat. Yes I have complained about him before, Hopeful the company employees and stock holders will revolt against him.

I have to say that the 300 even with a V6 is a great cruiser and still very fun to drive. Snow is NOT a problem with the 300. It is heavy enough to stay very stable if you only go RWD. The V6 with 8 speed tranny in base AWD form, added the convenience group and the sky roof is a nice clean package. You could not go wrong.

I would think the easiest at this time would be a buy back of all affected auto's. VW needs to get this behind them as it is really affecting their sales and image. Trash the image to a point that recovery will be near impossible or just one long ass expensive time frame. Just look at what the American Auto industry has done and how hard it has been to recover and rebuild that image.

-1 So your post is totally confusing! No one has tried to hide anything. Yes Tesla 3 is a RWD and the Chevy BOLT is FWD. Neither auto is out yet and so there is no way to really JUDGE either one. Nether auto is excellent or good. They are exciting but then all new technology is. If FWD is so bad then I guess Audi and all the others that build FWD auto's build terrible products. FWD has NOT stopped the world from buying an auto and FWD versus RWD is more a preference than one being superior over another. Who ever was defending the bolt as a poor seller? The auto is not even available for sale yet. I do think GM could have done a presale of the BOLT, not sure how many would plunk down $1000 for one but I do like the idea of getting customer commitment. In regards to the coming off federal tax credit. Tesla is forced to as they have almost already approached their 200,000 allotment. So why should GM or others also not have the same use case. For transparency, then all need to be treated equal and have the same benefit of using the fed deduction. How do you know the BOLT is not desirable? I know many who desire the BOLT and cannot stand the ugly jelly bean steril Tesla. So you are trying to make your own feelings into statements of fact which is also not valid. In regards to throwing in the Kitchen sink. I think this is a smart way for GM to build their first long range EV. Build it with all the desired bells and whistles that people want. Why nickel and dime them to death like Tesla is doing. Build it complete with everything from the start and state the single price of the auto. I think most people will be happy to buy it as is. Volt is a great solution but still burns petrol, for those that want a petrol free auto, the BOLT or Tesla 3 will be a good choice. Here are the videos of the drives they did at the Tesla Event.

Thinking more on this, I suspect with all the China auto companies we will see a boom of companies and then a death of a ton as the industry consolidates to the biggest most solid ones.

that is what PSA has to offer in auto style. The French know nothing of auto style and nothing that company builds offers anything the US would want. Plus they screwed over auto owners the last time they were in the US. Best to let the company die and be a history note in a book. The US and world still has way too many auto companies and a consolidation is still needed.

CNET has an awesome write up by a reporter that has driven both the BOLT and the Tesla 3 and he is very positive on both. This drives home the LoveFest as he calls it of the two auto's and that Musk probably does not see the BOLT as a competitor to his Tesla 3 as he is known to support getting more EVs out to the public. It is an interesting piece for sure. I think many of us agree that the BOLT will come fully loaded with minimal if not no options. This compared to the Tesla 3 that will have options and retail much higher than the BOLT. Currently Tesla is on track to cross the 200,000 EVs sold by spring of next year which means there will be NO Federal Incentive for the Tesla 3. This car will sell for more than the BOLT. I am interested in seeing the Real World driving tests as you know the auto Magazines are going to compare and test against each other the Bolt to the 3 and declare a winner even though this is an apple to orange comparison. I will say that GM needs to also list out all the incentive benefits available for auto purchases like Tesla Does: EV Incentives Thought I do see this is not updated as they do not have the Washington state listed with it's free Chargers in homes.

Hahaha well it will only be to the douchy posts..and once a day..tops..because a douche bitched and wined about it because his internet feelings got hurted...from a little "-1". So then the little DOUCHE is BallLess! After all this country was created on Debate, freedom of speech for all. So if you cannot handle the heat get out of the Kitchen McFly!

Bummer, I would love to see what you built but cannot for some strange reason.

^^^ Douche to all then!

While it is a clear valid point, a better discussion can be had if one is to explain their thinking and who knows, maybe you will want to change from a down to an up vote based on the debate. Both have their point, I just like to better understand why people are thinking the way they do.

But Cubical, according to the Idiot Parents raising kids now, EVERYONE has to Win and EVERYONE must be given a trophy. This whole falsehood of everyone is a winner is creating fragile kids that end up doing stupid things. We need and should be able to down vote a persons posts. I do think it should also go hand in hand with an explanation so people can understand where and how others see their posts.

Seattle the evergreen state and one of the largest markets for Electric behind California is now being hit by another item. Those in the news that feel the $7500 credit by the feds and the no sales tax on electric auto's in this state is an $11,000 freebie that is NOT Needed and should be done away with. Dori: Tesla hubbub is an $11,000 'scam' on Washington taxpayers It is an interesting read and one that hits some honest real points. Should the people be subsidizing the EV auto? I honestly love the Idea of an EV Auto and am excited to test drive a BOLT. Wife is loving the idea for it as her normal commuter auto and errand runs auto. Tesla is just a Soulless looking Jelly Bean of an auto that sits way to low to the ground for me. I am happy for Tesla and hope they do well but am more excited by the CUV Bolt than the Tesla 3 car.

Oh good it is bad enough to work with a Dealer franchise but even worse to work with a independent contractor that is not connected to the MFG. I can see where at times it may help but also many times where it will be much worse. UPS for all their good and bad their drivers as a whole are pretty decent getting things there due to their inner organizational complexity. But many other package services who use drivers who are private contractors their service can be a total nightmare most of the time. On Trac on the west coast is a real burn on shippers. While cheaper so much is late or delivered wrong. Roadway Package failed miserably on the independent contractor. It is hard enough to control a franchise but even more difficult to deal with contractors. Tesla certified repair / service centers are Pet Boys locations. Not sure who they use on the east coast but pet boys here is anything of a service level experience I would expect on a 100,000 dollar auto like the model S. I have tried them a few times and will search out a Napa or O'Reilly rather than deal with the crappy service and poor parts inventory of pet boys. I personally think Tesla will find great pain as they grow in using a cheap ass company like Pet Boys.

West coast your dealerships are open 7 days a week, service is Mon to Saturday and the parts departments are open 10am to 7pm Mon to Sat. I love that I can buy at any time and for the most part get service and parts when I need them. No need to close down on a sunday.

That is my point exactly. I love my Trailblazer SS AWD, but hated that they slapped SS on every product line and most were terrible. You just cannot put a bigger or more powerful engine in an auto and think it will be fine. MB can live off their history but whoring out everything and selling from base entry level eco box to top of the line will come back to hurt them.

Cadillac has 3 VSports and 2 Vs (IIRC). Mercedes is going to have FORTY-EIGHT AMGs. Do you REALLY not see any difference? Because Cadillac is weak. As are Infiniti, Lexus, Acura, etc. Mercedes for years has been the best at smooth ride, bank vault solid luxury. So now they decided to be the best at performance too. This is about sticking it to BMW and Porsche. They don't want people going to the former Ultimate driving machine or to Porsche for their performance luxury car, they want them. These are big spenders that Porsche conning to spend $1,000 on leather trim air vents. Now these people will buy superior Mercedes-AMG's. I have seen plenty of examples of MB being anything but bank vault solid luxury, but for sake of argument, they are and you are OK with them leaving the Luxury department and becoming another version of Chevy or Ford with all their models?

If I was Lincoln, I would pull a page from Tesla and offer something special to the first 40K customers who are willing to put down say $1K dollars. Then you see who is really interested versus being a buyer. I wish Chevy would do something like this for the BOLT.

He said they would be "cheaper & faster" than ICE cars. Are you saying that's the case in the areas you mentioned above? - - - - - There are real AND perceived disadvantages to the EV that will take FAR more than a decade to overcome. IMO, EVs need to reach 20% of vehicle sales to be an established, recognized segment. Right now, they are an extreme niche, akin (in sales penetration) to convertibles, maybe less than even that (IIRC, converts sit around 1.6%??). Imagine all the hype/buzz RE Tesla...instead talking about convertibles and how they're going to "take over". Most manufacturers have one, people like them…. At the rate EVs are going sales-wise, we're looking at at least 25 years to come close to 20%, not less than 10. According to government statistics, the West Coast is already where people think we will be for Charging stations, DC rapid charge and sales. Current Statistics are as follows: California leads North America with 24% of new auto registrations are plug in Hybrids, 32 percent were pure EVs for 2012 the latest full year of detailed auto registrations. This is followed by Florida, Washington, Oregon, Colorado, Hawaii, Tennessee all having new auto registrations of Hybrids and pure EVs that run at just above or below the 10% mark. Meaning new auto registrations in these states are approaching 20% of new auto sales. The overall green state winner is Washington state where power is in abundance and 100% renewable due to the excessive Hydro power, wind generation and sea generation of power. Washington state has their 5yr plan for pushing plug-in hybrids and pure EVs. EV Action Plan Washington State Here you get incentives to purchase and own the following models: EV Models: BMW i3 • Ford Focus Electric • Mitsubishi i-MiEV • Nissan Leaf • Smart ForTwo Electric Drive • Tesla Model S PHEV models: Cadillac ELR • Chevrolet Volt • Ford C-MAX Energi and Ford Fusion Energi • Toyota Prius Plug-In

So Five of the 1974 Chevy Nova 454 7.4L V8 then or would you rather have the Buick GS Stage 1? You're supposed to also ask, "would you like fries with that?" Would you like Fries, Onion Rings or deep fried Mushrooms with that?

So Five of the 1974 Chevy Nova 454 7.4L V8 then or would you rather have the Buick GS Stage 1?

Hello Smokey, He was the Bandit! He got Frog and he ripped up the Highway in his Trans Am. Oh wait, that right you are probably too young to remember the Smokey and the Bandit movies.