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Rivian has stated that even with water intrusion into the cab, the electronics should not be affected since the whole purpose of the Rivian design was to be waterproof for the R1 series. That is not going to be the same for the R2 and R3, but the R1 is supposed to be waterproof. I think maybe the insurance person does not really understand the Rivian R1 autos.

Agree, Want nothing to do with Musk or Tesla as long as he is the CEO and Chairmen. Have to say after looking at the video, I am puzzled as to why the Rivian is there as they are built to survive that flooding of the system, so cleaning it up, that should be good to go.

Was not trying to Musk it, Just went by the press release and with the rebate at $7,500, that makes the SUV $57,500 to start and the Truck at $59,000 to start. Still under $60,000, not around.

I totally get the point your making, but then I think it also could depend on where one lives. With Costco having so many free samples, it has become common for folks to meet at Costco, taste all the free food even if they do not buy anything else. Plus most Costco's at least here are part of a much larger retail area that usually also has a Starbucks, Jamba Juice, etc. so I see multiple options for charge and go hang out. I do get the coffee shop, bar, YMCA thing too. SUV starts at $50,000 and Truck @ $51,500 for the early reservation holders who sign up now. I think Third Space is clearly also a regional thing in how one defines it as I have come to realize that how the east coast versus the west coast sees things like this is very different.

3rd Space perfect use case is that Costco is now finally getting into having their own badged charging while you shop. Costco brings back EV charging in the U.S. | Digital Trends

This cracked me up! ?

It seems that Tesla has decided that a Cheap Tesla or an affordable one for the masses is not needed as everyone will pay Tesla to ride in their RoboTaxi's, Law suit filed over the name. https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/elon-musk-makes-major-tesla-u-turn-on-affordable-electric-vehicles-pointless/ar-AA1t0O3g?ocid=BingHp01&cvid=2315a0a6151343a8e858ca0c3d25fa96&ei=84

I have nothing against the captain chairs in the front as the support and comfort especially on road trips is very comfy over a bench seat. My problem with today's autos is the center console eats up so much damn leg room that for a big guy, the center console you show above by Cadillac is terrible for those with large thighs/legs on how it cuts into the leg space and why I have come to really love the leg space in my EV9 while still giving the storage and utility that we all like with our Yeti Mugs, cell phones etc. I can totally see in a Pickup Truck a bench seat over an SUV as trucks tend to not do road trips as much as SUVs or cars and as such, the utility of a bench seat in a truck especially for dump runs where you need a few extra sets of hands to unload, or other projects totally makes sense to me.

Totally agree with why Scout Motors has stated they will NOT have a dealership network, but their own stores. Dealers will not die in my life time, but I can see in 50 years dealerships not being much around. https://insideevs.com/news/738792/scout-motors-dealer-challenge-sales/

@oldshurst442 @Robert Hall @Drew Dowdell @trinacriabob @A Horse With No Name @ccap41 @surreal1272 So I have seen a ton of writeups this week and it seems this old school feature is having a revival as so many folks have posted about it online that they are excited by this. Front Bench Seat as an option in both Truck and SUV. The Scout EVs Have One Incredible Throwback Feature Thoughts on this guys? Yea / Neah ??????? Find this comparison an interesting read, seems they are more alike in various ways and yet very different in others such as the solid axles compared to the modern independent axles of Rivian. Thoughts on this? Scout Traveler Vs. Rivian R1S: How Do They Compare?

@Drew Dowdell @oldshurst442 @Robert Hall @ccap41 @surreal1272 @A Horse With No Name I know I missed some of the other regulars and hopefully they will stop by and chime in with their thoughts. I have to say that I totally agree with this story, I believe that while gas stations are not going to go away in the near future, being the next 2 to 3 decades, they will die if they DO NOT EVOLVE!!! The future is that with EVs, folks that want to get their grocery shopping done, cloths shopping at a mall, watch a movie, etc. any place they go like a sporting event are going to want to plug in and let their EV charge up while they do other things and it will be no different than today with Cell Phones and Smart Watches where you plug them in before going to bed. Good Read and spot on imho. EV charging stations could become America’s next ‘third place’ as they partner with grocers and coffee shops

@Robert Hall @oldshurst442 @Drew Dowdell What do you guys think of their approach to Max range packaging by using a gas generator built into the auto?

Interesting comparison.

Two years in the making, President and CEO, Scout Motors, Scott Keogh made the following statement: “Two years in the making, the day has finally come to share the next generation of Scout vehicles with the world. The original core idea — rugged, versatile vehicles capable of off-road adventure and family duty — is more relevant than ever. We couldn’t be prouder to revitalize this iconic American brand, create thousands of American jobs, and put American ingenuity back to work.” In revealing the all-new electric Scout Traveler SUV and Scout Terra truck concepts, Scout ushers in a new era of EVs with the following bold statement: A bold, iconic design with multifunctional spaces built for gathering and connection; the Connection Machine™ Body-on-frame chassis, solid rear axle, and front and rear mechanical lockers deliver robust capability and off-road performance Projected towing of over 7,000 pounds for the Scout Traveler and over 10,000 pounds for the Scout Terra, both with nearly 2,000 pounds of payload Anticipated 0-60 miles per hour (mph) in as quick as 3.5 seconds is made possible by an estimated nearly 1,000 lb.-ft. of torque through the four-wheel-drive system Scout vehicle software will be built upon a modern zonal architecture, enabling over-the-air updates, remote diagnostic, and enhanced customer lifetime value Fully electric models are anticipated to offer up to 350 miles of range, extended range variants are projected to offer more than 500 miles of range through a built-in, gas-powered generator An exclusive Scout Motors sales and service network will provide direct sales from Scout Motors to customers and embraces the same modern, seamless, customer-first philosophy that defines Scout vehicles Traveler entry model starting as low as $50,000 with available incentives, with retail prices starting under $60,000.3 Terra entry model starting as low as $51,500 with available incentives, with retail prices starting under $60,000.3 Initial production targeted for 2027. Consumers can make a reservation to order their Scout Traveler or Scout Terra beginning at 6:30 p.m. EDT on October 24, 2024, at www.scoutmotors.com hp1017.webm Engineered for work and play, the Scout Traveler and Terra offer up to 35-inch tires, over 1 foot of ground clearance, nearly 3 feet of water fording capability, front sway bar disconnect, front and rear mechanical lockers, competitive approach and departure angles and robust competition suspension options. Modern Auto tools for today can be ordered in two formats, 100 percent battery electric offering up to 350 miles of pure EV range or in range extended configuration allowing more than 500 miles of range with a built-in gas generator. Both systems will preserve the Scout off-road characteristics and packaging benefits of a pure electric powertrain. Both power train options will ensure Scout Motors can respond to an evolving market demand. All Scout Motor vehicles will come standard with the NACS (North America Charging Standard) port, 800-volt architecture, 350 kilowatt charging that is also bi-directional. Scout will leverage over-the-air (OTA) software architecture updates, snappy touchscreen interface, high-resolution camera views and personalization for an ultimate user experience. Scout vehicles will have gold club fitting front trunks (Frunks), multiple 120V outlets, USB-C power ports and for the Terra truck a 5 1/2ft bed that will have two 120V and a single 240V outlets in the bed for heavy duty tool usage on the job site or home appliance usage for power outages at home or whatever you desires might be for plugged in options. Scout Motors has listened and been guided by the customer. The EREV (extended range electric vehicle) system is called Harvester. The gas-powered generator delivers on a refuel anywhere you can find a pump or plug, while maintaining the packaging and performance benefits of an electric vehicle. The Harvester energy system delivers the benefits the customers have asked for in their lifestyle that works for them. Scout Motors View full article