G. David Felt

499 Electric Fastback Mustangs will be built. https://charge.cars/ Interesting, wonder if they will sell them all? ? You can have it RWD or AWD 5,531 lb-ft of torque 402 HP 64 kWh battery pack good for 124 miles Cost - 200,000 pounds or $256,699.87 at today's exchange rate for this British company.

Yawn, I see no reason to get excited. The buyers of this product category like Boring, this change could cause heart attacks. ?‍♂️

My 1994 GMC Suburban SLE with 300,000 + miles I would take over any CUV and especially any German or Asian car. Was designed to haul and pull and has outlasted many auto's a fraction of it's age. I would also take it over a G-Wagon. Yes it is built to military grade spec and will outlast pretty much the rest of MB product line, but the cost of repairs is way higher than my suburban.

Sharp looking that is for sure. Not sure what the mileage is as they state zero on the Autotrader web site. https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=486957501&zip=98043&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D98043%26startYear%3D1981%26sortBy%3DmileageASC%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26marketExtension%3Don%26endYear%3D2019%26modelCodeList%3DH3T%26makeCodeList%3DAMGEN%26searchRadius%3D0%26trimCodeList%3DH3T%7CAlpha&startYear=1981&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&endYear=2019&modelCodeList=H3T&makeCodeList=AMGEN&searchRadius=0&clickType=spotlight

Once you drive an Alpha, you can never drive the I5 version again. Night and Day different.

Here the High schools and DMV do not have any training that they offer anymore. You now have to attend a for profit driving school. So I would think those types of companies would have a plot of land they could cover in man made snow, etc.

Correct in the last 2yrs they had the Alpha which had the 5.3 L V8 Sad part is that even the non-V8 models with over 100,000 miles are still fetching high prices due to the ability these trucks can handle but is stupid pricing. Right now the closest Alpha to me is 700 miles away, Has 122,000 miles and they are asking $22K https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=497135025&zip=98043&referrer=%2Fcars-for-sale%2Fsearchresults.xhtml%3Fzip%3D98043%26startYear%3D1981%26sortBy%3Drelevance%26incremental%3Dall%26firstRecord%3D0%26marketExtension%3Don%26endYear%3D2019%26modelCodeList%3DH3T%26makeCodeList%3DAMGEN%26searchRadius%3D0&startYear=1981&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0&endYear=2019&modelCodeList=H3T&makeCodeList=AMGEN&searchRadius=0&clickType=spotlight Crazy ?‍♂️ Total Search does show some very low mileage H3T Alpha's but like Cmicassa has stated, your looking at mid $40K for one. https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/HUMMER/H3T/Mountlake+Terrace+WA-98043?zip=98043&marketExtension=on&startYear=1981&endYear=2019&makeCodeList=AMGEN&searchRadius=0&modelCodeList=H3T&trimCodeList=H3T|Alpha&sortBy=mileageASC&numRecords=25&firstRecord=0 OK, looked at a few more of the H3T Alphas listed on the East Coast, High $20K to Low $30K gets you one in the 50-70K miles range. Not too bad. Nice White one in NC.

Totally agree, Cadillac dropped the ball on not Maximizing this commercial and the sales it would have driven into the dealerships. That ATS commercial is too funny, your right the underlying message is there. That is just sad! It deserves this Emojii! ?

Average cost of a commercial snow making machine is $5,000 dollars. Over the life of a business, that is easy to cover in what one would charge customers so you have a place to experience driving on snow. An outdoor ice rink with snow making machine might just be a good thing to consider if all else was equal. I searched online and it lookes like in Europe Drivers ed is an 800 to 1500 euros course, so I would restate that in the US you could have a much more in depth, detailed drivers ed for 800 to 1500 US dollars. The point I am making is our current schooling for learning to drive is not enough to really prepare people for driving on public roads. I have driven since I was 12, but then I was already 6' tall then before I got my last 6 inches summer between 9th and 10th grade. Like you I was driving with my parents and without much more than others probably did. One cannot replace experience of driving with a text book or just a couple lessons. I still think we need a much more detailed driving school which will cost more.

Course it would help if GM would pull their collective head out of their ASS and market them properly!

@Cmicasa the Great Totally agree, why GM has not realized that Hummer should be a package for GMC is beyond me. I loved the H3T Alpha and was planning to get one but by the time I was ready, the product was dead and no new ones available. The few that were on dealer lots were used hard. Those that do have them and there are plenty around here on the road love their Alpha H3T's.

@ccap41 @Robert Hall Guy's I know many of the northern European countries do require winter weather training, I know they have mother nature to help out with that as it does cost way more and much longer to become a driver. To address ccap41 thought on expense, it actually is not that expensive at all as they have snow making equipment that is now pretty common and easy to use. It is used in many southern places to make snow for a few hours for locals / celebrations. Drivers training should be a 2-3,000 dollar cost to learn to drive, not the 3-500 that the 4 week local driving schools charge for just a couple days a week. It is pathetic. With a higher cost you would have to factor in the expense of having a lot big enough where you could create / blow snow over it and then have drivers learn what it is like to be on snow. Maybe us a subcompact car on an Ice rink for ice driving, slid training. I am sure if it was a requirement, we could easily find solutions. FYI - After Today, I am out on PTO and heading to Eastern Washington Lake Chelan winery area. Got a condo booked and will be walking and drinking myself pickled for the week. Offline till at least Tuesday, see if I can go the whole Thanksgiving day week without being online. Addicted to everyone here! ?‍♂️

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It is amazing how fast snow or the threat of it scares most drivers. I have come to realize that unless you like driving and enjoy it, most people truly are appliance drivers that do not want any change that can shake their world. We also have too many people that have come from warm dry states with no experience in snow or rain on the roads and their first act is to slow way down to fast and put hazards on as if that is going to make them safer when everyone else around them is driving so much faster. Truly many idiots that SHOULD NOT have drivers licenses. We really do need to require much more detailed drivers training that includes high speed and slide reaction training.

It is a shame, if they had the range of the VOLT plus the dual electric motors, I think it would have been a far better game changer. These type of autos should have a minimum of 50 miles on pure electric. I honestly do not see these luxury cars selling that only have 20 to 30 something miles of pure electric range. Minimum should be 50 miles for plugin hybrids. I do wonder if we will see a pure electric CT6 shown with production in 2020 as a 2021 model. ?

Dry here in Seattle, Rain in the city tonight with Snow in the mountains.

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Best picture I could grab but looks like the Pilot, just smaller. Interesting, wonder if a Phev will be in the playing cards? ?

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I can respect and understand that. Either GM will come out with a full size Electric SUV or my 1994 GMC Suburban SLE will be converted.

By 2028 either I will have an EV Suburban one way or another!

I will not buy anything else but an EV as my next new auto. Just waiting for the right options to come along.

They could call it pián yi which is chinese for Cheap! ?

Just detailed the SS, all ready for the winter. Now just have to do the Escalade.

Totally agree with Robert, standard or king cab with big bed is not what the majority want or need. Jeep has this one right, bulk will be fully loaded 4 door trucks for families that want off road capabilities but needs more room to haul stuff. I can so see water tight canopy on the back on the rubicon trail enjoying time away from the cities.