G. David Felt

Got It! ? The Hudson Minimalist building design versus the Maximalist overkill design of the Mattress business. Yea, also does not help that the Mattress business clearly has not taken car of the outside as the ugly colors plus the falling down awning covers, your right, it looks very trashy.

Not sure what your really meaning, Hudson went out of business, the owner of the property got a different business to go in to keep making money. Every business has different needs for the property, so how did the present fuck up what the past offered? ?

It is amazing how many sale people are just plain dumb about the auto as they have only focused on the basic sales process: Greet the customer Qualify the customer Trial close the customer Overcome objections from the customer Take them to the bank. The basic 5 step how to sell pitch and that seems to be where most sales people's brains stop functioning. I am always shaking my head when they throw stuff out that is so wrong about the auto one is looking at be it the wrong engine, wrong features, wrong color options, wrong way of how a certain technology works. Most of the time, I just have to bite my tongue when I go to a dealership at the large amount of wrong information. This is a key piece as to why the BOLT does not sell better, the lack of knowledge and understanding of an EV along with the benefits. At 259 mile range, the battery range should not be an anxiety issue for the commuter person. So True as being lazy to learn a manual is on par with the lack of learning the auto's they sell. Amazing the ignorance of so many sales people.

Amazing to see the pictures of America before the EPA was formed and regulated trash/ dumping. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/35-vintage-photos-taken-by-the-epa-reveal-what-american-cities-looked-like-before-pollution-was-regulated/ss-AAFNWId?li=BBnb7Kz#image=1

Nope, just life. appreciate you posting our history so we can observe, learn and make the future better. Thank you,

Gotta love cooking and yummy food. This I can attest is an AWESOME BBQ appetizer to do! https://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/food-network-kitchen/prosciutto-wrapped-grilled-brie-with-pineapple-5230068

Working and have this lovely back ground piano jazz on. Saw Keiko last night at Jazz Alley in Seattle. Was amazing. https://www.jazzalley.com/www-home/artist.jsp?shownum=5080

Disagree as the point is that that was then and now we have better moving forward and pointing to the past without pointing out the better in the current and how we will get even better in the future is what the end point is about.

WOW, Pulling an SMK of moving the goal post and pointing at a total different auto class rather than talking the one brought up. The mid size sale of Diesel trucks is a loss from a business stand point, the cost and increase in fuel price, maintenance, etc. the public has decided is not wanted compared to full size diesel trucks and one that I am pretty sure is in the Redneck non college educated crowd. I agree with @surreal1272 GM needs to either market it and point out the benefits of the auto, or build it as a true wanted AWD CUV/SUV.

Quality over Quantity is a thing some people do not get when they cling to hard to a static past as being the best life could ever offer. It is also why various society's have perished.

So true and it made the Auto Shows more relevant as you actually would go to see the new releases and check them out. Now it is just a single stop sales athon mess. I will say having the autos on hand to test drive is much better than in the past. One thing I have never gotten is those that refuse to even go to a dealership to test drive and check out the auto, do 100% online even the purchase and wait for the dealership to come to them to drop off the auto and then they bitch about the auto when they could have saved buyers remorse by getting off their ass and into the dealership. I DO NOT feel sorry for such lazy people.

Thank goodness for the Internet, you can now save all that time looking online, download any PDF file you want on a specific product line all from the comfort of your bed. Decide what is of interest to go look at, then get up, shower, get styling and go check out the ones of interest. So much more efficient in the 21st century.

We so need a FART Emoji for a comment like that!

Lovely looking standard cab pickup at the gas station. So rare to see them like this.

Seems we have reached a trade deal with Japan but NO CHANGE in how they treat auto's going into Japan or what they ship to the US. So much for Trade negotiations to give US auto companies better access to foreign markets. https://asia.nikkei.com/Politics/International-relations/Japan-and-US-reach-trade-deal-by-putting-off-auto-tariffs ?

Lets talk about why BOLT does not sell well. A number of valid bullets to take into consideration: It is not a Tesla Public hate for all things GM Lack of proper marketing Lack of training of Chevrolet Sales people on how to sell an EV. Lack of public knowledge on how to fuel up on the road. Lack of EV brand perception. Hatred created by killing the original EV1 by GM. Cost especially with cheap fuel and cheaper trucks / cuv / suv Washington DC Versus GM Politics. Global demand is up, but limited production due to battery pack production is holding back increased sales - Read the Fool.com Investment Analysis which covers the global demand for the BOLT. To quote the electric power research institute in Palo Alto CA: Mark Duvall, director of energy utilization for the Electric Power Research Institute in Palo Alto, told the San Jose Mercury News, “It takes a long time to change someone’s inherent perceptions about new technology…especially with one of the two biggest purchases people make.” https://www.plugincars.com/why-238-mile-chevy-bolt-not-selling-hotcakes-132776.html https://www.torquenews.com/5477/2019-chevy-bolt-hasn-t-been-selling-very-well-and-it-isn-t-car-s-fault https://www.fool.com/investing/2018/07/05/is-this-why-sales-of-general-motors-chevrolet-bolt.aspx End result is that the BOLT and all other Electrics are held back by battery production, limited supplies, higher costs till economy of scale kicks in and Limited options. Final part is IGNORANCE with a BIG DOSE of a lack to learn and understand changing technology.

Since random news on all forms of auto news I reported in Random was stated as not the proper place to be, I have started this Alternative Random. http://www.chevyjoltev.com Love the site built to try and get more excitement for this lovely 2 door EV. This story is Wicked Cool about a 427 Cobra Replica made as an EV with a Tesla Powertrain and Kia EV Battery pack. https://electrek.co/2017/01/17/classic-427-shelby-cobra-tesla-electric-motor-kia-soul-ev-battery-pack/#more-35518 Mitsubishi 3000 converted to EV using Tesla Motors and VOLT battery packs. 1000HP using two Tesla Ludicrous mode motors. Very cool car. https://electrek.co/2016/07/21/tesla-hacker-1000hp-electric-car-tesla-drivetrain-chevy-volt-batteries/ Love that they are now hosting an EV Conversion page that covers all auto's and even a EV converted boat. https://electrek.co/guides/ev-conversion/ EV Rocks!

Sorry, I do not like boy toys, wrong plumbing for me. Ya know you love electrics, but I understand, hard to change tune! ?

Why you posting about electrics in a music channel thread? ?

On top of this, California is using Voter approved funds to replace a big bulk of the diesel buses with clean EV school buses to reduce student exposure to air pollution and help the state reach voter approved clean air standards sooner. https://ngtnews.com/california-funds-hundreds-of-diesel-to-electric-school-bus-replacements

First just to make it clear, please call me DAVID. I am not Dave. Second, I did not miss the School bus thing but wanted to get all my info so you guys @ccap41 can see the difference here. There are multiple companies that are taking old Blue Bird diesel school buses and converting them to electric with 100 mile range for much less of a cost than a new Blue Bird School bus yet needing 15yrs of use to equal the 12yr Diesel school bus use. Multiple reports based on 2018 technology says that EV School buses will equal cost of Diesel school buses by 2030. http://www.orkas.com/ev-school-buses-take-two/ At this same time, Blue Bird School buses just announced a new EV School bus with Bus to Grid feature. These new buses have a 150kW battery pack with a dedicated 100 mile range making them perfect for a days use of morning and afternoon routes. Recharge over night and back at it the next day. Better yet, if for some reason power issues hit, the buses can be plugged back in and the power used from the buses by the buildings. https://electrek.co/2017/07/14/all-electric-school-buses-blue-bird/ Now with that, the EPA also has reports that show that with Solid State batteries, this will be the game changer that should allow more types of Bus / Commercial fleet use to make cost parity come way down on an EV version over Diesel. Just search the EPA site link I posted earlier and you can find the reports on it.

Unable to snap a pic, but lovely white Buick Electra 225 convertible. Very cool, would love that big sedan!

@ccap41 @balthazar Funny you guys are discussing this as Columbia University just released an indepth long term cost annalysis of EV Bus versus Diesel bus and for the 12yr life of the buses even with the EV bus for mass transit costing with charging equipment about $300,000 more than Diesel, the EV bus saves $39,000 a year compared to Diesel and this is taking into account paying for the Driver and everything. http://www.columbia.edu/~ja3041/Electric Bus Analysis for NYC Transit by J Aber Columbia University - May 2016.pdf This was a report done in 2016 for NY. The end result of this study then was that the lifetime cost of operating an electric bus was $1.18 million compared to $1.35 million for diesel buses over the 12 year life. More than I care to dig through due to work, but you can search for electric versus diesel or ev versus diesel and you will find tons of reports that show the cost of electricity and maintenance on EV buses versus Diesel buses have Electric coming up the winner. Matching Diesel in cost but cleaner air and quieter operation is LNG/CNG buses. https://www.transit.dot.gov On top of this is Proterra which has 400, 500 and 600 mile range electric buses for sale for mass transit are guaranteeing a lower cost of operation compared to Diesels. Proterra is also offering a leasing program to help departments write off the cost of the buses better. https://www.proterra.com/press-release/proterra-and-mitsui-co-ltd-create-200-million-credit-facility-to-scale-proterra-battery-leasing-program/

Love this, the whine of the power train accelerating and deccelerating. Will take this over the ear blasting noise of a Harley bike that is not needed. Tuned pipe is one thing like the Corvette, Mustang or Camaro, but over all, would rather have less sound and this ev was a blast to watch run.

Tesla is driving a Diesel free fall in Norway with some models dropping 95% as EV/BEVs take off. https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-drives-norway-diesel-freefall/ Is this what could happen as more EV/BEV/Hybrids options come to market? Good Review