G. David Felt

Gotta Love the World Premier of the Taycan!

I get it, I was being a bit sarcastic as my day been a crazy one, but I would hope since the bits of this are being shared across the Audi and VW product line that they should be able to at least break even at that price point and even then if they do drop 1 motor, 1 controller and the wiring to go with it plus other stuff, they should be able to have an entry price point about equal to Tesla I would think.

Way better looking than Tesla.

Sure they can do a $75K version by just taking 1 motor away for RWD only. But will they is the question I ask. Probably not for the first few years.

If I ever get the urge to get back onto a bike, I would go this route for ICE: For EV I would go with the Live Wire from Harley.

Could that be cause MB does not want their productions auto's to go faster than their F1 race cars? ?

Actually this is on par with what Tesla did when they first came out and I would be willing to bet that as Porsche gets their battery tech ramp'ed up especially in regards to solid state you will see more battery options over the next few years. Porsche is playing catch up, but I expect as a Premium brand they will surpass Tesla in a much shorter time frame.

Or their crazy Jug Handles. ?

Thank you Robert, the overboost mode did not register with me when I read it the first time. Would have loved it to be Warp mode Maybe they will offer an Infinity and Beyond mode! ?

That seems to be on par for me with the Tesla S, as I got into one and out of it, but lucky me I am flexible. I do agree with you that I wonder about that comment also on the Porsche. Tesla X is not roomy either but to me and yes I am big. Yet still excited for these auto's as this is the start of all things EV eventually.

EXCITEMENT!!! Tesla is going to have to really step up their game as I believe this car will be way superior than a Tesla S. Tesla has their Ludicrous mode. I wonder what Porsche will eventually come out with? ?

Should be a solid inner city commuter car.

I have been reading that many auto sites are now looking at Benchmark Sprints with distance covered as a more reliable test since even a V6 Camry can haul ass off the line now. I honestly agree it is time to retire the 0 to 60 quote of performance. https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/05/zero-to-irrelevant-in-sixty-years-its-time-to-change-the-performance-benchmark/ To Quote: It’s time to replace the 0-60 test with something that is actually relevant to modern American motoring. The quarter-mile, as wonderful as it is, really does exceed what’s safe and sane. I suggest eighty miles per hour as a good compromise. With the possible exception of I-94 in Chicago and 495 in northern Virginia, if you can accelerate to eighty miles per hour you’re going to be good to merge. I would also suggest that, in lieu to time, we substitute distance. How much room does a car need to get to eighty? That’s the most relevant power statistic we can provide the American motorist. I will say I love all the new Vehicle Benchmarking that is being created. https://www.avl.com/vehicle-benchmarking

5 years ago I cut the cord and went with streaming to enjoy the shows I wanted to watch, reduce the commercials and BS Media Manipulation. Course Social Media is even worse than Mainstream American Media. Rather read BCC or some other news source over our current mess.

Seems Cadillac is behind the 8 ball in regards to the new V series due to emission issues that they say are now resolved but explains why the V and Blackwing 2019's which are all sold out have not shipped to a single dealer yet. http://cadillacsociety.com/2019/08/31/cadillac-ct6-v-deliveries-delayed-over-emissions/

Seems VW is full court press for setting records in EVs. They just posted the fastest time ever for reaching Heaven's Gate in China. 7:38.585 for conquering 99 hairpin turns on the 10.906 kilometer Big Gate Road. Very cool pictures and details can be found here: https://www.media.vw.com/releases/1194

@daves87rs I am really interested in why you think putting up a commercial grade charger is harder than a destructive environmental gas station. All the EPA regs and double wall tank plus underground leak sensors, soil sensors, etc. compared to running the 220 or 440 3 phase to a pad and putting up the trickle or quick charge chargers. Right now there are 22,800 commerical charging stations in the US. https://afdc.energy.gov/fuels/electricity_locations.html#/find/nearest?fuel=ELEC&country=US&ev_levels=2&ev_levels=dc_fast&ev_levels=1 According to the U.S. Department of Energy, we have the following statistics: 270 million ICE autos, 150,000 Gas stations, 1.2 million pumps which equals 225 ICE autos to a single pump. 1 million EVs at the end of 2018 registered, 22,800 Charge stations, 63,840 Charging connections which equals 15 EVs per charge connection. This does not even include 110 or 220, level 1 & 2 home or business connections that are out there. I would say the EV charging infrastructure is building fast. I would say check out your area for current details.

Rivian Pre-Production fleet testing in Tierra Del Fuego Agentina. https://www.thedrive.com/news/29656/rivian-r1t-electric-pickup-truck-prototypes-spotted-testing-in-argentinas-tierra-del-fuego Seems white and Grey are new colors for Rivian R1T. Seems they moved the charge port from the passenger side to the drivers side. Nothing like High Altitude Winter Testing for true battery performance.

Right, This is just mind boggling that they went this far with deceptive MPG software.

Seems in the EV world that the BMW i3 and i8 are not dead in their current form as BMW will produce 900 final units world wide of the i3 and 200 of the i8 in both convertible and coupe form. Guess this is one way to send these autos off before they roll out their new EV product line that looks like the rest of the family. https://www.autoblog.com/2019/09/02/bmw-i3-roadstyle-i8-ultimate-sophisto/ Seems Ford has decided that the world needs more info on the up coming Ford F-150 EV Truck being built by Rivian for Ford Globally as well as their whole EV Strategy! https://www.autoblog.com/2019/08/31/ford-future-300-mile-ev/ It's a good read and I really like the following quoted from the story: Palmer says Ford won't need to tack on huge MSRPs to these electrified "icons," because it plans to make its EVs "extremely desirable, but at an attainable price.” That's a fantastic goal, and Ford knows its numbers better than we do, but when various analysts predict a "profit desert" for electric powertrains, autonomous driving and connectivity, we're keen to see how Ford manages to do that without asking un-Ford-like sums. Figure @balthazar and especially @ocnblu will like this story that was run here in the local Seattle Time Newspaper about the EV Profit Desert that they see coming: https://www.seattletimes.com/business/automakers-face-profit-desert-as-evs-self-driving-vehicles-arrive/ To quote the story: “This industry is about to enter what could be a multiyear profit desert,” says Mark Wakefield, global co-leader of AlixPartners’ automotive and industrial practice. “It’s not that it’s over. It’s a true cyclical business, and we should all understand that. There are adjustments and realignments that have to happen. It looks like some slimmer times and some lower return-on-capital times.” In Police News, Indiana Police Department is swapping Dodge Chargers for Tesla Model 3 in Bargersville Indiana. https://www.autoblog.com/2019/08/31/tesla-model-3-police-cost-savings-bargersville/ To quote this story: Even though the Model 3 costs more than the Charger, the department said the EV will save taxpayers money. The Tesla runs $39,500, a police-issue Charger costs a police department $25,000 according to figures given to the Indianapolis Star. The Daily Journal said this Model 3 ran $41,945, the Charger $33,612. No matter the differential, the Model 3 is expected to be much cheaper to run. The Dodge apparently requires more than $8,000 in upkeep every year just for gas, oil, and insurance, the gas alone totaling $7,125. The department's figures show Tesla will need just $1,728 in electricity, and one officer said that even the replacement windshield wipers are less expensive on the Tesla than the Dodge. Over a six-year period, Bargersville PD expects to save at least $20,600, with the savings beginning in the third year. The EV Front continues with some really cool marine power, I am loving the Silent Yacht 55 that is 100 percent solar and Zero NVH. https://www.autoblog.com/2019/09/01/silent-yachts-55-solar-electric-boat/

Seems VW is in the news AGAIN for Fuel Economy Cheating. This time on regular gas powered auto's and has agreed to a $96.5 million settlement with the EPA. They are also forfeiting all emission credits. Seems people will be getting checks in the mail and EPA will get their cut from the forfeited emission credits. https://www.autoblog.com/2019/09/01/vw-fuel-economy-error-reimbursement/ To Quote the story: The agency said the software was on roughly 1 million 2013-2017 Audi, Bentley, Porsche and Volkswagen vehicles and caused the transmission to shift gears during the EPA-prescribed emissions test in a manner that sometimes optimizes fuel economy and greenhouse gas emissions during the test, but not under normal driving conditions. The EPA said Volkswagen has determined the software lowered the fuel economy rating on roughly 98,000 vehicles by approximately one mile per gallon. Seems FORD has filed 9 Removable Door Patents ahead of the 2021 Bronco release. Some very interesting doors in the pictures at the story here: https://www.thedrive.com/news/29607/heres-every-removable-door-patent-ford-has-filed-ahead-of-the-2021-ford-bronco Seems Australia does not like Infiniti as in 2020 next year, they are withdrawing from the auto market among poor sales. https://www.thedrive.com/news/29661/infiniti-to-withdraw-from-australia-in-late-2020-due-to-poor-sales-report Infiniti had their best auto sales year in 2016 when they sold 807 auto's and since the brand opened in Australia 2013.

Yes, I was being very singular in the Fiat product line only and not any other auto line, though I would be fine with Alpha dying again.

That is one interesting angular mess of a car. I do like the look of the interior though.

Death of Fiat in the US will not come fast enough.