G. David Felt

I can actually fit in a Challenger where I have to fold up to get into a Mustang or Camaro.

Rightttttttttttttttt You seem to forget that GM is the company that created the skateboard EV concept way before any of these other companies. MB has followed GM in so many ways and while they have surpassed them in the last 20 years or so due to poor mgmt. and leadership with the product lines, there is much MB still lags behind in. Where is all the EV tech from MB as we have not seen anything that is ground breaking. MB followed GM with bringing out an EV auto on a skateboard platform 20 years after GM created the concept. Hydrogen auto's again behind GM, Hybrids again behind GM. The list is long and distinguished on how BEHIND MB has been, a FOLLOWER to bleeding edge tech!

Thanks for posting the story, that is a good read and I would agree with the 2023 hint. I think one solid reason for the success has been the price with the body style. No short bunker pony car, but an actual comfy cruiser.

@oldshurst442 But we LOVE YOU! ?

How do you quantify that? I see so many state auto's just idle in parks, on the roads, etc. They probably burn away $10 grand in a couple years just idling. Washington state says they base replacement of an auto on mileage then years, so 150,000 miles or 5 years old if the auto has a record of problems. Otherwise the auto can go longer in the fleet if it has a low cost of maintenance. Savings on 10 grand of fuel can easily make this up.

Rivian depending on which way you want to turn, as example to turn to the left, the passenger side wheels will move forward, the drivers side wheels will move backwards. This will keep it much tighter than braking one side and only using wheels on the other side. Be interesting on how they are doing this with the differentials. You can do it on dry pavement, but I would imagine it would be hard on the tired and the rest of the power train.

I see plenty of Hybrids and Tesla's when I go skiing. Today I saw my first Bolt and it did really well on compact snow n ice.

23 Views and no comments, very surprised that some have not stated how they feel about the style of this truck. @balthazar What do you think of this truck and semi from a style point of view? @Robert Hall @ccap41 @USA-1 @daves87rs @loki @smk4565 @ykX @regfootball @surreal1272 @oldshurst442 @ocnblu Take a look at the link, some very innovative seating options for the Truck/SUV/VAN depending on configuration.

Hybrids make better sense for State, County and City fleets. They waste so much fuel idling their auto's that the higher mpg of a Hybrid makes sense as even in the case of a 5 year turn, they probably save money even with the higher initial costs. Police auto's should all be hybrid with the amount of fuel they burn just idling. Plus they could benefit from the electric instant torque to get going.

Thanks for posting, will be interesting to actually see this in action on the Yukon. I honestly after reading the story at the link do not think it will be as tight and controlled as the Rivian. Either way for folks that go off road or are up in the snow level area and get pinched into a tight spot, this can come in handy to get out of the tight space.

India is a caste system of rich and poor, plus the poor infrastructure and lack of electrical to a majority of the people will always make it a hard sale. Until the government corruption stops and they actually start investing in the country and work to improve basics such as clean water, sewer, electricity and roads, EVs will only sell in the rich sections that can support it and that is even a small segment due to the poor infrastructure of the country. On top of those issues is what Drew points out, majority of our auto's in the US are too big for the country and road system as such the most you could export as CPO would be the Sparks, Sonics and Fiestas. India is the 4th largest auto market focused on compacts here being extra large auto's there, so you have sub compacts as mid size, micro as compacts and what ever is under micro as sub-compacts in comparison of India to the US. Most folks there are used to driving motorcycles and they come here and get a car and cannot drive worth shit. Price is not the biggest issue, reliable electricity is a bigger issue in India as they are a country with sparse gas stations too so you need high mileage auto's to get around. As one that spends too much time there for work, I can tell you, it is very common to see stores sell 1, 2, 4 and 8 Liter containers of gas due to the lack of gas stations. Yet due to this ability to package and sell, gas autos and bikes sell and will continue to sell till the country fixes their poor infrastructure. I could go on about the differences between there and here but would be a way too long of a rant that some people complain about others do. Ciao,

No one ever said making auto's was easy!

I like this and agree that these 5 trucks will challenge Tesla and it will be interesting to see who wins. Good write up on the EVs that go on sale in 2020 and their range. https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/every-electric-car-ev-range-audi-chevy-tesla/

NEURON EV CES 2020 has been a busy place this year with more auto companies showing of prototypes and finally production ready auto's than ever before. We have seen so much including the latest in super dense solid state batteries for the EVs to motorcycles and bikes. This year we now get to see the latest competition to Tesla and Rivian in a well funded California / China based EV auto company called NEURON EV. This company has a swiss army knife of a truck/suv auto as well as a Semi truck that they say is going into production in 2020. The truck which is seen here in Silver has a sister truck that was running around the streets which is the following Black T-One. All the details you could ever want can be found here on this truck: https://www.neuronev.co/new-products/t-one-p-gyrwr The cool thing about this modular truck is that is can be more than a truck, a tractor, a van. there are no limits to how one can configure up this beast of an EV. The seat options are an interesting take as you can go like how Tesla showed their Semi with a center driving position as a base 3 seat configuration of 3 captain chairs, or a single drivers captain chair and a bench seat behind for 4 people and go from there to cover a wide range of colors, materials, etc. in customizing your auto. While this company is looking at this modular truck and semi for the US, in china they will have many more auto options including their V.E.G.A. or Versatile Electric Grand Automobile. The company has great plans and while they have only two models for the US market, China will get many more that includes a medium duty truck, a bus, a MAP or Multipurpose Autonomous Platform focused on shipping yards, a HUB or autonomous transportation auto, in addition to the car, semi and truck. NEURON EV has not released any details about their hp / torque other than to say class leading at this time. Two wheel drive and All Wheel Drive will be the choices folks will have and talk of a base 300 mile range battery pack. More details are to come later this year. First Press release of 2020 can be found here: https://www.neuronev.co/01102020 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC69MUFfq-4W8qxUWcGltBUg

Hey, I know we have covered this somewhere, but could not remember, @Drew Dowdell @William Maley and anyone else, The platform that the Trailblazer is built on, is it used by Cadillac?

While not a car fan, I will say I like the interior dash on this.

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I honestly think it is so you know without look which is D and which is R as you can fit your fingers I bet into those HDMI looking spots. I can totally understand this as I think a persons Height has something to do with how one would feel about the dashes. Being so tall, a tall dash never bothers me, but my Wife is 5'8" tall and you bring up a valid point. I wonder if she would find it too tall to look over. ? Love that GM is getting Unique dashes to various trim levels.

Agree that it is a great program, sadly 10,000 miles is not enough for me either. I went and built a Premier with 15,000 miles and the cost jumped to $366 a month.

I have to say that I love the AT4 external looks and could be happy with the interior, but would rather have the Denali Dash with my AT4. Top AT4 Dash, bottom pic is the Denali dash. I wonder if the AT4 will get the Diesel option for those that want it over the 6.2L V8? ?

Future meets past in the Lightyear One, an EV with a 60kWh battery pack and solar panel roof that gets 450 miles of range for a 4 Door Sedan. https://ww.electrek.co/2020/01/14/lightyear-one-first-look/ This 450 Mile range EV is AWD with 4 independant in-wheel hub motors, a .2 drag coefficient, a Aluminum / Carbon fiber body and frame. Unlike the Solar panel on the Nissan Leaf that draws barely enough power to power a Casio Calculator per the story, the hood and long roof to the rear generates 1kW of power for use by the auto. Gotta love the rear wheel covers bringing back auto's of Yore. Has the latest approved side video cameras rather than traditional mirrors that cause drag. If you do not take into account the Solar panels, this company has gotten an impressive 7.5 miles per kWh, incredible efficiency. The biggest draw back is that people are hesitant to drop large money on an EV and this one can be yours for a base price of $165,000. Seems I can hear Crickets right now.

Seems GM is wanting to drive BOLT Leases, so they have up to $10,000 off a fully loaded Bolt for a monthly Lease of $169 a month, $2,219 due at signing. The $10,000 breaks down as follows: $8,500 discount for all customers, $1,500 loyalty bonus or $1,500 conquest bonus. According to the story, seems some dealerships in Oregon, California and Florida have put additional money on the hood withBolt Premiers having a final Lease price below $30,000 for a $45,000 fully loaded EV. Seems reports are up that people are finding the Bolt LT below $24,000. https://ww.electrek.co/2020/01/14/chevy-is-offering-10000-lease-discounts-on-bolt-ev/ Great deals if your wanting a decent daily driver for work / errands at a low price.

Nissan showed off their Global EV platform at CES this past week. Great thing about this is it is a complete all new platform, first in the last 10 years for Nissan and will be shared with Renault and Mitsubishi. Base Platform is a 300 mile electric crossover. There will be three types off this, EV, Motor driven Hybrid and Engine & Motor driven Hybrid. Interesting details to read, check it out here: https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1126757_nissan-evs-will-share-platform-with-infiniti-renault-mitsubishi

I look at everything, wife has tested so many and yet she has always come back to GM, loves her full size SUV, aka Suburban and Escalade we have and her SS. The tight Turning radius and performance of the SS goes up against the others and so far nothing has beat it. She really liked the looks externally of the MDX, but the interior she hated, turning radius was a pig. At this point, she is going to wait for an EV. She does like the looks of the Lincolns, but has decided her SS will be her last ICE auto.

Equinox is great but much bigger turning radius than the Trax. I honestly am shocked at the turning radius of the CUVs from GM as my SS has a much tighter turning radius than many compact CUVs and it is Mid Size. GM needs to fix the poor turning radius of their products.