G. David Felt

True, Politics aside, it is amazing how many Red and Blue States have been very poor at managing their money and need a bail out from the feds. We could truly make a revolutionary change if we spent the 800 Billion on Roads, Power, Parks etc. rather than bail out states or fund more unemployment. We could get america back to work by spending money on projects that will improve this country over time and state that any company that takes on one of these federally funded projects must supply insurance for all Part time and full time employees. We could wipe out most of the unemployement as these projects would take 2-4 years and by then the rest of the industries should be getting back on their feet! Very True and very fact based as even a standard person of normal intelligence can look at the northern side of Canada and see that they have longer warmer seasons, growing food has become longer, etc. Even Green Land which is mostly covered in snow and ice has gotten longer growing seasons and have started to grow their own Produce that they once exclusivly imported. Clearly anyone can see that humans have had an affect on this planet and it is changing. Since none of use lived 200 years ago or even 500 years ago, we lack the true long term data to see what kind of cycles this planet goes through, so as Oldsmoboi has pointed out, we take what we do have and Hypothesis. I have agree that we do not know how bad we humans have affected this planet and climate, but there is NO reason NOT to take measures to improve things and in the short term if it creates jobs for new technology, then better for it. Hybrid Auto Production is very destructive to the Environment. Look at all the waste produced by battery production and the amount of Green house gas produced during the battery production and it does not off set an efficent running gas econo box. Prius is just a marketing tool as I now see 18 Toyota Prius sitting on the lot here this morning in Kirkland Washington and they had 21 Highlander Hybrids. Guess that novelty has worn off for those over priced garbage machines. No wonder Toyota mothballed the new production plant, they can barely sell what they have.

What is "OBESE"!

All are nice rides, I do not think you could go wrong with any of them. Good Luck and Congrats on the wedding bells.

:sign0200: Saw a restored Studebaker this weekend. Actually was very nice looking, driven by an old man who probably bought it new and then restored it. Very nice though.

:rotflmao: The Disney Movie RocketMan with all the Fart Jokes! Love that movie, it brings tears to my face due to how hard I laugh! :rotflmao: +1 Poop Toyota's in Movies, -1 Toyota

Just show me the scantily clad woman and I have my moment of zen!

SWEET That would rock to put it in a nice sleeper car and then just shock the hell out of people. I would love to have this in my Fav of all cars, 1984 Monte Carlo SS with the V back rear window in that awesome dark burgundy color. That was one of the best coupes GM made.

That is cause the woman does not like them, Only men drive EXCITEMENT!!!

Thank you, I love it.

Damn I want one, that Crotch Cooler is such a long over looked and missing item on todays car's! :rotflmao:

Do not forget that it also comes in a variety of amazing smells!

These are so ugly they make me want to go poop! Guess Poop +1

So then this would be +6 for Toyota then?

A lady is driving down the freeway in Arizona and sees a little old Navajo Lady walking along the road. Since she has a long drive she decides to stop and offer the Navajo a ride. The little old lady accepts and gets in the Car. Along the way this lady tries all sorts of things to engage this little old lady in conversation. The lady is looking all over taking it all in and then her eye's settle on a brown bag on the seat of the car and ask's, What is in the bag? The lady a bit embaressed says, "It is a Poop bag I got for my husband." The little old lady thinks for a while and finally responds. GOOD TRADE! :rotflmao: +1 POOP :sign0200: :rotflmao:

That is such a Piece of POOP, they destroyed a decent looking sports car, +1 Toyota and turned it into a big Orange piece of Poop + 5 Poop.

True, we will have to debate this elsewhere, Now back to your regularly scheduled POOP!

PooP Happens - Funny Video, safe for work. This cracks me up so much, feel sorry for the girl, but POOP Happens. +5 Poop :rotflmao:

Are we sure about that as I have always read documents that they came from Northern Europe. Vikings. Guess this gives additonal Points to Poop +++

Do we even want to acknowledge that piece of Poop? +1 poop again.

NOPE, I doubt anyone here is American Made! Unless you are Native Indian. Example, I am German American, so by visiting Canade, eating the Foreign Material, driving back into America and pooping, we have German American Poop made with Canada sourced Material that could compose of any % of world supplied Product. :rotflmao:

We seem to have POOP from everywhere so nothing is really 100% American Made any more. But this Thread is truly 100% Poop!

OK, I am going to jump into the FWD versus RWD debate and state that I hate them both. Unless it is dry streets or wet streets at the most, they both have positives and negatives. FWD, I see the benefits in Snow and Ice, but for most people they do not drive in that and this leaves them with what I see as a big downside. Torque steer, I am big and strong, but feel one should never have their steering wheel whipped out of their hands if you punch hard on the gas pedal. Love the lack of a bump in the floor for more leg room, but the whole Torque Steer that even 4 bang econo box's have is a deal breaker as I feel it is a safety hazard. RWD, Unless the auto has a posi rear end, I hat that in snow or ice you give it some gas and your ass comes around to kiss your face. That whole passenger rear tire thing sucks for handling. For Pickups especially a lite ass means you flail all over. Answer: AWD - AWD is the bomb and why I only have it as my auto's to drive. Personally I see no reason not to have it in all Auto's since it is the ultimate in traction and safety be it dry, wet, snow or ice. One down side is reduced MPG. But then personal quality of life / safelty is far more important than fuel efficiency in my book. You cannot replace a loved one or take an injury away by driving an Eco Box Coffin on Wheels. So I will stick with my Escalade ESV Platinum and the rest of my AWD vehicles / 4x4's for ultimate safety. AWD ROCKS!!!

Intersting read, I would say that Bob is not the all told God he seemed to come across as, but he did have his moments. There are deeper issues that even TTAC only scrapes across. Reality is that GM had too many brands and was trying to keep everything going when they should have backed off to the traditional entry level, mid level and luxury level car line up. They could have been in much better position if they cut and run on a number of product lines. Chevy, GBP and Cadillac is what they should have changed to about 6 - 8 years back. IMO

MAYBE we should take one person a week here on C&G and hit on them, that way everyone will feel loved and can practice their PCS skills.

While I do not like it, mothballing the dept for the time being to secure the $ for the survival of GM is the right thing to do since they do already have various performance models. So do this to get your survival and then turn it back on and kick ass there again. All Good in the long range plan of things.