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HAHA, please dont go there again. Lets rename it, "Waste of Time" and call it a day, ok?

Glad to hear the Auroras so easy. Thats not the case with my Grand Prix. You have to be a contortionist to get your hands in there to get those spark plugs out.

Multiple times I saw that GM should have replaced X car 3,4,5 years ago. Hello, that car would have had to be in the pipeline since before Wagoner. Wagoner couldn't just come in and cancel everything that was in the pipeline, and let all the models rot for another 5 years until his models are developed. He doesn't have free control to change everything in the company, he has to work with what he has. Which is very high costs, stale product, UAW. Nissan had none of the issues GM does. GM does not have 30 years of bad management to fix, and doesn't have huge fixed costs either. The Delphi deal was signed before Wagoner. GM lost more money last year due to buying out workers that are not needed. That needed to be done. GM needs to fix the product, which looks to be in the pipeline, run the company as a global company instead of alot of smaller companies, which Wagoner has done, and GM needs to become more efficient and get it's costs more competitive with the rest of the industry, which they will need the help of the union for. No company with higher costs can win, unless they can charge higher prices. The market wont allow higher prices. So theres only one option, and that is to take the cost out. You cant spend more money per car, because you cant charge more per car. In order for GM to make the Cobalt class leading as everyone suggests, the starting price would be $18,000. What is so hard to realize about that?

Wasn't there a different CEO at the time that deal was signed? What would GME's marketshare have been without the much needed diesels they got out of the deal? And I'm sure you wouldn't have purchased daewoo and formed GMDAT either would you? They are one of GMs most valuable assets right now. You have 75% percent of this website against you, dont you think you should quit while your behind?

Since when should Cadillac be competing with Saab? And whether you like it or not, all the cars you listed are second tier compared to the 3 series, g35, and IS. Does Cadillac want to be second tier too?

I dont like the BLS. Mostly because it's FWD, and I don't think it fits Cadillacs image, or where they are trying to take Cadillacs image. Yes, Acura may make FWD luxury cars, and Lexus has the ES. But lets face it, the IS, 3 series, and G35 are the standards that Cadillac will be competing against. The BLS just wont cut it. It may be fine for Europe, which I wont comment on because I know nothing about that market, but I think it would be a step in the wrong direction if brought here. We all know if brought here it would be subject to face offs in the mags with the 3 series, IS, and G35. And in the handling tests it will just be destroyed. The cars are supposed to get softer as they get more expensive and bigger, not the other way around.

GM's costs are going to stay roughly the same regardless of revenue. They might save a small amount but nowhere close to what they would lose in revenue. Lower revenue by 60B to save 2B, so now your 58B negative. At that rate GM would be dead in hours.

Those corporate Giants just carried them this far. Slay them, and you lose all your protection from the real world.

at idle its a low rumble. WOT, I wish I knew.

V8 turbo or supercharger?

I love how the Charger looks, but it still wouldn't sway me from picking the GTO over it. But honestly, the 2 dont really compete with each other. The GTO would be more comparable to a hemi charger instead of SRT-8. If GM were to make the Judge, which would probably be around the price range of the SRT-8, that would be a better comparison. I would assume the Judge would have closer to 500hp though, and would compete more fairly in handling. But I would probably take a regular hemi Charger over the SRT-8 and save alot of money.

Doesn't mean it shouldn't have been imported right along. I love the speedster, in some ways more than the Sky. Can you imagine a 2.0L turbo in the 2000lb Speedster?

Opel Astra hatch and Speedster. The Speedster looks so much better than the Elise.

Hahaha. Exactly. It's not like GMs marketshare was declining since the 70s or anything. Those vegas and chevettes and cavaliers, perfect cars. Why did Wagoner have to F them up and give us the Cobalt SS SC. Why did he have to go and ruin the interiors, the GMT-800s interiors were so damn perfect, and now we have the mess they call an interior in the GMT-900s. What was Wagoner thinking?

Suzuki doesn't have much to offer GM anyway. They are good with small engines, but that is still of little benefit to GM, outside of sub-compact cars. Isuzi is much more valuable to GM with their experience in diesels, such as the duramax, and I'm sure they probably had a hand in developing the European diesels as well.

Not true. Care to explain why dragsters are not FWD then? Weight transfers to the back when you accellerate.

The Sky is definately better, and I'm biased the other way. I never even liked Saturn, and Pontiac is my favorite brand.

It's only going to get worse. Do you think an owner of one of the unreliable POS cars according to CR, is going to keep their subscription? What if you own a perfectly reliable car, and every time you open CR they slam it for being an unreliable crude pos, will you continue to hand your money to CR? NO. Now if you own a Toyota, and CR is always telling you how great it is, you will never cancel your subscription. This is an extremely one sided review. In fact, I thought it was actually written by CR thats how biased it sounded. Nevermind the counter opinions that CR's results may be flawed, let's portray them as being the almighty, and act like their results are 100% accurate. Complete BS.

That must have been a joke. Just because it is not your style of car, you shouldn't make statements and pass them off like the rest of the public agrees with you. I could care less about a Deville, El Dorado, or Continental, or even about those names ever returning, but I dont put them down just because they are not the style of cars I like.

Tempest- CTS sized, RWD, 3.6L and 5.3L and 6.0L coupe and sedan, except the 6.0L coupe will be called GTO. unnamed car(g6 replacement)- RWD, 3 series size, 2.4L, turbo 2.0L, and DI 3.6L for GXP, coupe and sedan. Torrent- suv version of the G6 replacement, same engines, 4 door only. I'll post the rest later.

The GTO is not boring, its just not retro. It looks like the previous gen Grand Prix, which also isnt boring. Young people want them, I hear them talking about them all the time. But $32,000 is expensive, and it wont be cheap on insurance either. And it doesn't sell that bad for what it is. I would call it a sales flop if it was priced at $25,000 with the sales its at now, but its $32,000.

wow I love the interior. Even with the wood(I hate wood in cars) it still looks really good. Love the exterior too, except the front. If only GM would just make all of its cars to its full potential.

I beat my brothers 00 impala in a 97 4cyl grand am.

I had someone tell me the Grand National was the fastest FWD car ever made. I told him it was RWD, but he insisted it was FWD.

I agree. I probably would have bought one already, but I know the insurance will probably be alot more than the car payment. I plan on either a GTO or Corvette once I'm 25 though.