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The last 3 will do next to nothing in terms of volume. GM's growth needs to come from the Lambda's(X-overs and minivans) NG Malibu/Aura, and gmt-900 pickups. Zeta as a whole will help, but not the Camaro by itself.

You might be happy with one of those cars, but I wouldn't be. Not everybody wants a smooth quiet car. I'd rather spend an extra $10,000 to get a BMW than to drive an Allure or Fusion.

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In the past couple of weeks I saw 2 STS-Vs, and an XLR-V on the road by my work in Phoenix. I've seen about 5 new Escalades also.

I agree. That's why I'm not buying a new car right now. I'll wait until I can afford what I like, instead of buying an Aveo just for the sake of having a new car.

I checked how much it would be for a GTO also, same as aCorvette, $470 per month, though I would be the primary driver. I have to wait until I'm 25 for my rates to drop.

Why is everyones insurance so cheap? Mine is $1440 for 6 months. I checked what they wanted for a 98 Corvette- $470 per month. I hate insurance companies.

You mean marketshare just started dropping in 1994? Thats news to me. I thought it started declining in the 70s.

GM wont go bankrupt, unless things go horribly wrong at delphi and there is a massive strike. Most of last years losses were from restructuring costs, and payouts to delphi. I would wait until after the 07 contract is renewed before making statements of where GM is headed. Seems to me like all GM has to do is weather the storm until the new contract.

There are too many unknowns to know the answer. If a treadmill is moving 100,000 mph in the opposite direction of the plane, it could possibly create a strong enough headwind to lift the plane, but that still would depend on other factors such as the surface area of the treadmill. Or maybe the wheels create more friction, and it would only take 1000mph to counter the force of the engines thrust. Too many factors to know the answer.

Is it still minimal when the wheels are spinning +1000mph, and the conveyor is moving -1000mph? The conveyor will keep spinning faster until the point where friction is no longer minimal. At a certain speed(who knows what that speed is, it could be 1000mph, or 100,000mph) the force of friction will be pulling against that plane at 20,000 pounds of thrust to counter the thrust from the engine.

The wheels still have some friction. And since the belt keeps increasing as the wheel speed increases, friction increases as well. The belt will keep increasing speed until there is enough friction to counter the thrust from the engines. Lets give the thrust a value of 10. The speed of the belt will keep increasing, until there is friction causing a negative force of 10.

But the wheels cant spin faster than the belt speed, because they must always be the same values, but in opposite directions.

But it does, because the only way for the rollerskates to go faster, is for the wheels to slide or go faster than the belt. Since the belt matches the rollerskate speed, the wheels would have to slide in order for the rollerskates to actually move forward.

But what if the belt inversely matches the rollerskates speed?

But, if the treadmill was spinning that fast to overcome the engine thrust, there would also be friction between the moving conveyor, and the air around it, causing a headwind for the plane.

Lets say the wheels are spinning at 50mph, and the conveyor is spinning 50mph the opposite direction. It would take a certain amount of force(in this case thrust from the engines) to keep the plane from moving backwards-the direction of the conveyor, so the plane remains stationary. Now, if you increase the speed of both to 100mph, it would still take the same amount of force to keep the plane stationary. So what happens if you increase the thrust past the amount of force needed to keep the plane stationary? The plane will move forward.

So then the plane would move forward, and would be able to fly.

Would the friction of the wheels be enough to counter the forward thrust of the engine?

http://3800performance.com/ I thought thrasher was in MI also, but I checked and they are in IN. Though if I was in MI I could just go get my car tuned at ZZP.

Will do. I just bought the powertuner to reprogram my PCM, so as soon as I get it in the mail I'll be getting it tuned and dynoed. If I lived in Michigan I would just go pick up everything I need. All 3 companies I buy parts from are there.

Update: Everything has been installed, though it doesn't feel much faster. I may need to buy a reprogramming kit for my PCM so I can tune it with my laptop. I also bought this TAC because it seems like that is what my car is doing. If I get the reprogramming kit I am going to take it to get it tuned on a dyno. I'll post the dyno sheets when it's done if anyone wants to see them.

Looks like the French have more control over Nissans designs now. I don't think thats a good think. Aveo looks alot better, though GM does need to get up to date with the engine.

SS for me.

My dad has one of those 302s sitting in Chevy truck right now. It might find it's way into his 63 Nova conv with a corvette 6 speed.