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I think it is supposed to look like you could live in it (as in a big rig's sleeper), but in reality no.

In 2007, Gore came under criticism from the conservative think tank Tennessee Center for Policy Research, which the Tennessee Department of Revenue does not consider to be "a legitimate group". [17][18] The organization issued a report which said that during August 2006 Gore burned through 22,619 kilowatt-hours at his house — more than twice the electricity in one month than an average American family uses in an entire year.[19] <snip> There have been a number of responses to this claim. TIME stated that the Tennessee Center for Policy Research claimed to have gotten "its figures from Nashville Electric Service. But company spokeswoman Laurie Parker said the utility never got a request from the policy center and never gave it any information." [21]TIME further quoted Kalee Kreider, a spokesperson for Gore, as saying that the source of the energy is green energy.[21]WKRN-TV reported that the Gore family obtains their power from the Nashville Electric Service's "renewable energy initiative", The Green Power Switch program [22] which depends upon "wind, solar, and methane gas." [23]The Detroit Free Press further noted that "Gore purchased 108 blocks of 'green power' for each of the past three months, according to a summary of the bills. That’s a total of $432 a month Gore paid extra for solar or other renewable energy sources.The green power Gore purchased is equivalent to recycling 2.48 million aluminum cans or 286,092 pounds of newspaper, according to comparison figures on NES’s Web site." [20] The figure of 108 blocks of green power per month corresponds[22] to 16,200 kilowatt-hours of electricity per month, Al Gore's average monthly use for 2005. Keith Olbermann at MSNBC reported that the Gore home includes offices for both Gore and his wife and 'special security measures' making it unrepresentative of what the average US home consumes. Additionally, the green power purchased by the Gores increased the cost of their electricity by "$5,893, more than 50 percent, in order to minimize carbon pollution."[24]

The utility company said that they didn't give out that information to anyone. If you think about it this kind of information is protected by privacy laws and only available to law inforcement and then probably only with a subpoena. here is yet another way to look at it. Do you think I can call your parents utility company and get a copy of their utility bill! His spokesmen reported that this was the case and it was confirmed by the local utility provider. Logically since you are taking up the side of those accusing Al Gore, the burden of proof is yours not mine. It is the accusers responsibility; innocent until proved guilty and all that. Prove it! In reality he has made his fortune by investing in Google and every time someone else uses it (I assume that you don't do much research) , they make him wealthier. My wife bought the DVD to his award winning documentary and it includes instructions to pass it on to friends so that his "profits" are sacrificed for the good of the general public. Every time I see him on a news video, etc. he is at a commercial airline terminal.

Actually the article quoted in the original post is a well know hit job. The right wing organization that put out the lies didn't get the usage rate from Al Gore nor did they get the information from the utility company. They guessed at what would be expected and then used false comparisons to make it look excessive. As it turns out the Gores use only 12, not 20 times national averages. Furthermore Tennessee averages do not relate to national averages. Because of climatic differences, Tennesseans need to use more electricity (air conditioning etc .) Likewise the Gore's are not an average family but actually Al and his wife both run businesses out of the home. Also there are more than an average number of people at the location because of family and secret service. The Gores don't purchase carbon offsets as much as they pay a premium for electricity produced from green sources such as solar and wind. It's all a hypocritical lie.

I thought every one decided that Nova meant no go in Spanish - a large and growing part of the customer base. I think that you are correct about the power train. The Griffon has detailed what seems like a dizzying array of smaller Ectoec engines and engine families.

Personaly I think this New York Times article about the plug in VUE and Volt and the batteries being produced for them by a high tech company of MIT scientist makes Flint look like like a horses ass. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/11/bu...gewan ted=all <snip> A123Systems batteries are different. Yet-Ming Chiang, a professor of materials science and engineering at M.I.T. and a co-founder of A123Systems, described their advantages: “Used in a hybrid vehicle, our batteries deliver faster acceleration than any other batteries of the same size,” Professor Chiang said. “And the chemical stability of the cathode material greatly improves safety as well as extending battery life.” <snip> By late 2003, the company had abandoned self-assembly for another, less alchemical but still dramatic technology. In place of cobalt oxide, it used a commonplace substance, iron phosphate, but assembled it in a novel, nano-structure — the particles used were 100 times smaller than conventional oxides and eight orders of magnitude more conductive than conventional phosphates. The new combination offers high power, stability and longevity. see article for more detail.

I have a neat looking mailer in my hand from GM card that is offering me an additional $1500 to my card's rebate plus another $1000 if I trade in a vehicle 1999 or newer if I buy a Silverado, I have had this offer for a while so it ends today.

Hydroelectric power is great! I assume we are maxed out, however. These are trying times. I think concerns continually shift between photochemical smog, greenhouse gases, depletion of petroleum reserves, and Middle East/international insecurities. These differing concerns may not have identical answers save for conservation.

I guess that means we will be getting our hydrogen from Iran since they seem to be theonly country building nuclear power plants.

Any chance that this is just defaulting sub-par mortgages and that the hit won't be too bad? I assume GM is no worse than Ford and Chrysler with regards to this. At Toyota they are so cheap with extending employee pricing it is almost non-existant. Used cars are a different story, however.

Which source of hydrogen are you hitching your wagon to? (no sarcasm intended).

I made a New Year's resolution to be nicer this year. However, I do understand how maddening some expressions of chauvinism, whether domestic or Asian, can be. So all that I am going to include are some unrelated comments. The volt is brilliant because it allows GM to be ready no matter whether hydrogen(unlikely), batteries(unlikely), kinetic/pneumatic hybrid(maybe), Diesel(maybe), or the dieselfication of a gasoline fueled internal combustion engine (maybe) succeed. Don't even consider ethanol. The volt is not brilliant because it looks so sweet. Its no more desirable than the Dodge Caliber and considering the number of years that have passed; less impressive than the EV1 (opinion). My neighborhood Cadillac/Toyota dealer has 50 Prius vehicles in stock.

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Early 2.2 l. Ecotec engines had premature timing chain problems. Kits are available tooffer better "oiling" to resolve this issue.

You seem to be saying that Toyota workers are almost three times more efficient than are GM and Ford workers! Maybe I should give up my Ponitac and GMC vehicles and get a Toyota too. By the way I wear American built shoes, what are you sporting?

My first car was '63 Studebaker. My last car before I left my parents home for my present home in California was a '73 AMC hornet bought after splitting the cost of new '71 AMC Hornet wagon for my older brother. When I got settled in California, the first car that I bought was '69 AMC Rambler American for $450. Several years later I bought a very used DJ-5 (mail Jeep) and then later a stunning AMC Jeep CJ7 that even my teen age daughters thought was cool. As a child there was a Packard repair shop down the street from my Uncle's house. Good times -- good times.

I guess that means Chrysler and/or Ford aren't holding up there end as Chevy says we are their biggest coustomer.

It really is more complex than that. My son in-law was going to lease a Dodge Dakota for my eldest of 9 grand kids, but the advertised price was for mid-Westerners only. So it isn't so much that you people have stronger principles than us Hollywood types as much as you get a better deal. That said Southern California is Chevy's biggest sales area. So not only do we lefties have a better tan, but obviously better values too. Over at the Ford forum there is an interesting thread on Navistar. http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index...showtopic=15740 This Waranville, IL (part of the Midwest) company is doing more harm to Ford than Toyota or us left cost lefties could ever manage. My vehicles -- '99 Pontiac GrandAm, "96 GMC Sonoma, 2006 Newbalance 992

are you still bored?

Last month's sales were 79k for Dodge, 41k for Chrysler, and just 35k for Jeep. These Jeep sales include 5K for the Commander which has been axed. I wonder if we aren't overstating the significance of the Jeep brand. I wonder if all these rumors of impeding sales of Chrysler is just a bargaining strategy for future negotiations with the UAW.

Personally I was considering turning to Viagra for my performance and driving needs.

I could see Chrysler and Ford combining, but I don't get GM's possible interest. I think that Ford-Chrysler would give them some economies of scale that they may not have individually. GM however is so much bigger than its domestic rivals these economies of scale wouldn't prevail as much. It is also interesting to note that Chrysler and Ford truck offerings fit together better. That is Ford is strong in pick up trucks; Chrysler not so much. Chrysler is strong in diesel engines(Cummings); Ford no so much (present Navistar is troublesome). Chrysler is strong in minivans, Ford not so much (hell they are leaving the market entirely). OK; let me have it!

vote here Along with an article on the Chrusler job cuts, there is a poll of readers to discern the cause of the big 3's troubles. I voted that the problem was high health care costs. Other options include building lousy cars, not knowing what the coutomer wants, and the most popular - all of the above.

To me the excitement was not the plug in capability specificaly, but rather the ability to put any number of energy devices down stream from the elctric propulsion motors. Regarding the question of GM vs. Toyota or Honda being in the lead, how many years ago did the EV1 exist?

Saturn had a dealer network in Japan for several years. Many here claim all sorts of trade shenanigans that aren't necessarily so. Most American model Honda and Toyota vehicles wouldn't have a great market in their home country due to their size.