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Back then, Chevrolet BY ITSELF was 30% of the US car market. It literally was every make for itself.

China's government is already quite authoritarian. Western companies will not leave because they believe there is too much money to be made there. By the time they think it is time to leave, it will be too late. As for Ford or GM to be truly global automakers, that time has unfortunately passed. VW Group and Toyota are essentially protected at home in a way that Ford and GM never were. Both will stand astride the world like a colossus while Ford and GM are essentially second-tier players.

That is a problem in every decade of popular music. The last ten years or so . . . . . more lame than good.

That bad Toyota copy of an El Camino is simply hideous! Toyota is not that stupid. Are they?

The real issue is this: Ford and GM were not able to compete against Honda/Toyota in the sedan space as well as they could have. The sales numbers in the last ten years or so prove that. So Ford and GM largely ditch the sedans for the hot crossover market. New cars in general are too expensive. Whatever happened to the $20K midsize sedan (fully loaded)? Now they want you to pay more like $30K and the crossover equivalent is an extra $5K on top of that. The Camry/Accord have this problem now. Chrysler can semi get away with it thanks to the 300/Charger/Challenger, but virtually all other FCA sedans are already off the market thanks to poor sales. Corolla/Civic can be quite pricey these days, but Hyundai/KIA will probably not allow that segment from being too pricey. The used car market will probably take care of most customers for a long time to come since a lot of vehicles are leased rather than financed outright. Once depreciation sets in, you could get an Avalon with about 40K miles for the price of a new fully loaded Corolla. Ideally Ford and GM would actually have RWD sedans for those of us who would rather NOT have a crossover, but the market has spoken. Five years from now, who knows?

Exactly. Crossover coupes really suck.

Wise decision on Toyota's part these days.

Exactly. Who would buy a Mitsubishi these days when Hyundai/KIA could kick their rear ends so easily on almost anything at the same price?

Can you blame them? The US looks deeply incompetent compared to most of the developed world when it comes to Covid-19.

What is/was the SBC?

Basically, If GM was as poorly run as it was and it was the size of Chrysler or AMC in 1970, GM would have gone bust by 1980. Bad Management has ruined more companies and lives than anything in American capitalism. Just look at all the companies that have gone bankrupt in the last 15 years: all of them made major errors in management and everyone else paid for it, regardless of industry.

Buick 231 was STILL the best GM non-V8 ever. Better than even the 3.6 DOHC found in Cadillac XT cars today.

Makes sense actually. GM has been fairly unsuccessful selling small cars going back to the J, N and A bodies of the 1980s, especially against Honda and Toyota. A Bolt EUV, huh? More (electric) crossovers, please.

WOW. That is sad. Decisions like these will cause a lot of businesses to relocate . . . . maybe to a low-tax (and no income tax) state like Florida. Isn't Seattle already expensive to live in?

There is a reason for that: The Ford Escape probably crushes the Fiesta by a lot in the sales column. Small cars in general have been steamrolled out of the market by subcompact and compact CUVs.

But the 3800 is GM's best non-V8 engine. It is no wonder you hung onto it.

Savings from buying all that diesel fuel and other fossil fuels generally.

We could certainly use those electric buses here. Think of all the savings from NOT using diesel alone on virtually all US school buses, not to mention all the reductions in air pollution. Saving green while going green: that should be the American way.

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Nissan would be better off liquidated and sell off the assets for cash and return cash to the shareholders. Nissan/Infiniti have a math problem and a leadership problem and a product problem all at once.

Autonews has a paywall.

The truly sad part is this: if these owners wanted an EV, then buy a Tesla. There will be more EVs in the next couple of years, so why radically alter cars that are north of 50 years old?

Toyota Echo failed here too. I have not seen one since the '90s.

That Yaris Cross here in this market makes a lot more sense than the current Yaris. Arguably for the same reason Ford and GM have largely abandoned cars for CUVs and SUVs.

There were a lot of GM cars that had solid powertrains and mediocre a lot of other things, not necessarily crappy. I am thinking of GM sedans with the 3800 series engines and spartan interiors prior to the black tie interiors starting in 2005. Arguably Ford had the same thing with their V6 engines and a lot of mediocre interiors prior to 2010.