Variance

No, they haven't. The Skyline has had the quad tail lights since 1968, as long as the Corvette (C3-on).

The current ES (the side profile in particular).

I think the LF-Sh has more in common with the ES (which came before the Bangle BMWs).

Two words: Banana Phone

WTF?! No Korn?! :o Blender can go to hell!

No. The G35 (Skyline) and GT-R are now two seperate cars. This design is about 80-90% finalized.

Prius emissions: http://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/E-TOYOTA-Prius-05.htm Focus emissions: http://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/E-FORD-Focus-06.htm

I wouldn't go that far. Everybody knows the Civic isn't the first to have that.

I'm guessing the blame actually lies with MSN as they run the site and do the actual posting of CR's data on their web site.

It just so happens I'm working on an article concerning the emissions of cars sold in America. The Sequoia is no dirtier than the GM SUVs. According to the EPA: Sequoia: Air pollutant score: 3 (7 in CA) / Greenhouse gas score: 2 Tahoe: Air polluntant score: 3 / Greenhouse gas score: 2-3 (50 states) Fuel economy (best - worst): Sequoia: 15/18 - 15/17 Tahoe: 16/20 - 14/18

Toyota actually talks more about the Prius' emissions than the mileage. Well, it does pollute less and some Prius owners do get better than 42 MPG.

Ford Aspire: If you aspire to own one of these, you must have some pretty low standards. Chevy Nova: (Most of you know why.) Hyundai Excel: This car never excelled at anything. Chrysler Cirrus/Dodge Stratus: Naming cars after fluffy clouds...ok. Plmouth Breeze: It was about as noticeable as one.

So wait...I'm not getting this. What makes them any less luxury than Cadillac or the Germans? :huh:

That last comment he made above should do it.

Yes, the Grand Prix is probably the best looking Pontiac ever (which may explain why I like the GTO so much...). They just look so damn evil, especially in black. I'm not really feeling the convertible job above, though. BTW, BV: You need to stop calling these "Random Threads" when they're all about Pontiacs. :P

Sounds mean as hell... http://www.dtmpowerracing.com/mooremotorsp...rfest05ctsv.mpg

Come on now, they don't make it onto one luxury car list and all of a sudden they aren't luxury cars? Let's not kid ourselves.

Oh, boy... <_< Muslim/Arab doesn't necessarily equal "terrorist". Personally, I think it's stupid and unnecessary to have that tall a building.

Sounds like every for-profit company in the world. I believe the Insight was only produced in limited quantities and you couldn't really walk into a Honda showroom a pick one out that day. I could be wrong though.

Sorry, man. I'm just of the opinion that the Sky is much better-looking than the Solstice. :)

It says the electric motor still works (albeit in a limited capacity) and all you have to do is restart the car and the gas engine will start up again. No need to walk.

Nissan was renamed from Datsun in 1934 but it wasn't formed by the Japanese government nor was it formed to build military vehicles (as in it wasn't the original intent). Hell, for all I know, they probably didn't even know what the song meant or was associated with. I just don't think it's worth getting worked up over a song that's associated with war that happened quite a while ago.

Saturn’s Revolution: Why I think it’ll become GM’s hottest brand -VarianceJ30 October 14, 2005 Debuting in 1990, Saturn was made to be General Motors’ lower-end import fighter. Saturns were a unique breed in many respects. With their spaceship-like styling and space age dent-resistant polymer body panels, one would think the name “Saturn” was indicative of where they came from. GM established a plant specifically for making Saturns, Spring Hill. They had unique engine and platform shared with no other GM vehicles. Lastly, the dealership experience at Saturn differed from everyone else in that they employed a “no-haggle” policy with their cars. Basically, the price you saw on the dealer sticker of a Saturn was what you paid. No more, no less. However, as of late, Saturn has not been the most popular choice in the automotive marketplace. For the year to this date in 2005, Saturn sales have been down 1.9%. The Saturn Ion does not have a favorable design inside or out in the eyes of more than a few people. The Saturn Vue has recently been refreshed with an improved exterior and interior which is a good job since the previous ones were nothing to write home about. The Relay is Saturn’s newest vehicle on sale and it’s also the least “Saturn-like” car sold today. It is one of the four GM Crossover Sport Vans (CSVs), which compared to competitors’ offerings are disappointing on the whole. However, an aura of change is emanating from Saturn and GM fans are looking to the sky and seeing a brighter outlook for the brand. New Saturn products are on the horizon and they look very promising. The midsize Aura concept is a vast improvement over the mediocre at best L-Series sedans. The Aura employ sharp and handsome styling rivaling the Nissan Altima, Volkswagen Passat, and Mazda6 and trouncing the Toyota Camry, Honda Accord, and Dodge Stratus. The Aura’s interior is a sight to behold. It’s like stepping in the cockpit a neo sci-fi Euro-chic sedan. This is prefect since I feel that describes the Aura to a “T”. If the production version retains 85% of the concept’s good looks, I fully expect this car to sell quite well. The Saturn Sky is in my opinion, the epitome of the phrase “of all time”. For starters, it has one of the best Saturn exteriors of all time. The Sky is the brother of the Pontiac Solstice and it’s not hard to see who Papa GM’s clear favorite is. Looking at the Sky is almost like looking at a mini-Me Corvette. I can honestly say I can find no design fault with the outside of this machine. The Sky also has the best Saturn interior of all time. The concept showcased a gorgeous red and black contrasting two-seat leather interior. This is accented with stylish black piano wood and aluminum trim. Hell, this may be one of the best General Motors interiors of all time and the way I see it, the Sky may be the quickest selling Saturn of all time. The Outlook is the third member of the new Saturn trifecta. It is based off of GM’s Lambda architecture and is planned to have an available V8 engine. It is intended to battle with the likes of the Toyota Highlander and VW Touareg. Outside of a couple of teaser photos, not much is known about what this vehicle will look like. However, if the Sky and Aura are anything to go by, the Outlook should be attractive inside and out. Saturn will never have had a stronger lineup than it will have when these new cars start hitting dealer lots next year. Now, some of the Saturn “uniqueness” is lost with these products. Future Saturns will no longer have the dent-resistant panels (this started with the Relay) and they are on platforms shared with other GM makes. However, the crucial part of the Saturn experience will remain and will ensure these vehicles success (as if they need any help): the no-haggle dealerships. This ensures that the hot new Sky won’t subject to “market adjustments” in price. Saturn: A Planetary Revolution.

Is it me or does AutoExtremist seem to hate everything? :huh: Anyway... #1: You can't exactly blame Toyota for the way the general public views hybrids. Do you honestly expect any company to step forward and say, "Hey, slow down folks. Our hybrids aren't all that you think they are." Of course not! They are going to do their damnedest to capitalize on it. If people don't take the time to fully research something before they jump into it, that's on them. #2: It's just a song from a movie. As I undestand it, the song itself doesn't even have anything to do with "the endurance of Westerners of unbelievable brutality by their Japanese military captors". The commercial's not even in any kind of military/war theme. Some people read too much into things.

Actually, I just saw a commercial for the local news highlighting the recall. So don't be so quick to think this'll be hidden from the public eye.