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Wow, VW seems really into the AutoCAD-come-to-life look with very flat, 2-dimensional designs. Seriously, that exterior looks like something from the original Sony PlayStation. Personally, I'm not a fan. As for that interior, I'm having a nightmare flashback to my 2001 ML320 from high school. I think I need an Ativan...

I see all those years of frosted tips left some permanent damage if you're mixing up Suzuki and Oldsmobile.

Agreed.

Looks good. Interior materials quality is my big variable.

Really? All but one were RWD or RWD-based. Of the actual Top 5/6, you have a Kappa, 3 Holdens and 2 uber-lux halos. Pretty predictable to me...

If it were a Top 10 list, then having 11 entries due to a tie would be acceptable. The rankings are just screwed up here...they should be listed as: 2. G8 ST 2. Sixteen 3. Nomad 6. Velite 6. Coupe 60 6. Torana ...which for a Top 5 list still looks silly, so maybe runoffs were necessary, or perhaps in the future the Feature's author should abstain from voting and only vote in the event of a tie, i.e. only voting for one of the 2nd place ties, and then voting among the 6th place ties to determine 4th and 5th place.

+1 These results were super-predictable, and last time I checked 11 winners in a Top 5 is...bizarre. Why is the Jeep Gladiator or anything above it even listed? Due to ties, the "Top 5" would then only be a Top 6, far preferable to 11.

Most Cadillacs use real walnut now. They used to use Zebrano in the 90s, but that was expensive to use AND cheesy looking. Very orange.

I too love my Studio XPS.

Agreed.

I agree it looks good, though I don't see what's wrong with the interior wood. Real or not, it doesn't look cheesy to me at all.

Yes it did...you're correct.

Back then? Yea. Read The Jungle. China is RIGHT THERE in the same place. Don't forget about the Chinese immigrants who died building the transcontinental railroad. Or the women who died in the Triangle Shirt Factory fire. China is less than a century behind us...but at equivalent places, we're no different. Watch in another 20 years...wonder if China's greed-based crimes will be white collar mortgage fraud?

Yeah, I am. Did you not notice the conditions leading to the eggs being contaminated? Willful negligence of safety in the food supply is willful negligence of safety in the food supply, whether or not the scare comes from sensationalist human feces, or less headline-grabbing salmonella--be in denial all you want, but that salmonella didn't just "happen" to contaminate every supermarket in America like those feces didn't just "happen" to appear in the lard. The Jungle was published in 1906, in the heart of the industrial revolution, prior to the FDA, and frankly illustrates these American cultural values that you somehow seem to think are superior to the Chinese values when it comes to making stuff and selling it for money.

Um, did you not ever read The Jungle by Upton Sinclair? Did you not hear about the Salmonella egg recalls of 2010?

Olds, if you want to monetize BV, you gotta find a way to debit his bank account every time he posts with a .

Actually I think it has most to do with how good the dim sum is in the factory canteen. Nasty dumplings = nauseous workers who just don't give a f@#k.

Thanks for taking the time to reply, but I think what we find most interesting and of note is why the Cruze receives a 6 while a lower-mileage competitor vehicle in the same class received a higher score.

Major improvement getting rid of the clutter.

I've said before that I'd be willing to help out with mod duties. No particular forum preferences.

I just read their report on the Cruze, and nowhere was odd trans behavior mentioned (that I could see).

Then that's not extortion. What Tea Party crap? I didn't compare the US Government to Nazi Germany, I challenged your assertion by applying your logic to an issue seen from the other perspective. I fail to see what's cut-and-dry. First of all, you originally said anyone who "betrays their government," now you're saying anyone who leaks government info. Which is it? Yeah, he could have waited 5 years. Meanwhile the families of the murdered Reuters employees still lack closure. That's not extortion since they already cut off his funding without due cause. They violated their own TOS and as a result he is reminding them that he holds some cards too. Being an unpleasant/disagreeable/ill-intentioned person is not a crime warranting arrest. Well in two posts you clearly reveal a strong authoritarian streak demanding blind loyalty to the government without question in a time of war, you want to arrest someone because you don't like them and therefore deny them their due process, and then you play the terrorist/terrorism card...methinks you aren't as liberal as you say/think you are. I will say, though, this little exchange has erased my ambivalence, and I am now firmly on Assange's side on this, now that I see what he's up against.

Just a minor point of clarification, that full, unedited video showed both innocent people being gunned down as well as two Reuters employees the government had tried to cover-up by lying that the US didn't gun them down. I am in full support of THIS being leaked. The diplomacy stuff? Eh, I'm a little torn on some of it, but most of it has proven to be innocuous. Most of the "gaffes" could have easily been avoided had our diplomats been far more professional in their internal communications.

If he's an extortionist, what is he trying to gain? I can't for the life of me determine what he's trying to get out of this for personal gain. Now, where do you draw the line on "betraying their own government"? I mean let's be real here, any Nazi who refused to participate in the Holocaust was betraying his government. Governments are not infallible, and they do authorize bad things from time to time. Where does one draw the line? Do the leaks make the US Government look bad, or did the US Government do things of questionable ethics/legality that made itself look bad? I don't know what it is with the DC folks, but they have yet to grasp the concept that in this age, secrets don't stay secret for long. Far better to operate on the up-and-up than to have to rely on people keeping quiet in order to save face.

Truthfully, the polls really show huge dissatisfaction with the Republican party, and general dissatisfaction with Congress, mainly for not doing enough (which happened due to lack of Presidential leadership and caving to GOP obstructionism). Why those prevailing sentiments turned to gains for Republicans in Congress? Probably had more to do with "I'm pissed so I'm voting for the other guy" more than anything else.