Lucid Air Electric Car Achieves EPA Rating of 520 Miles of Range

[G. David Felt]

The Lucid Group of Newark California announces today, the 16th of September 2021 a new standard in the advanced luxury EVs. The Lucid Air Dream Edition has received an official EPA rating of 520 miles of range, the longest-range rated electric vehicle ever rated by the EPA delivering over 100+ miles of range over the closest competitor.

The Lucid Air Dream Edition achieves 520 miles of range while delivering 933 horsepower and will sit along side the Lucid Air Dream Edition Performance model at 1,111 horsepower and the Grand Touring version at 800 horsepower. 

To quote Peter Rawlinson, CEO and CTO of the Lucid Group:

“I’m delighted that our Lucid Air Dream Edition Range has been officially accredited with a range of 520 miles by the EPA, a number I believe to be a new record for any EV. Crucially, this landmark has been achieved by Lucid’s world-leading in-house EV technology, not by simply installing an oversize battery pack,”

Lucid is using their race proven 900V battery technology in conjunction with BMS technology, miniaturized drive units, coupled with their Wunderbox technology in deliverying ultra-high efficiency, enabling further travel on less battery energy. To quote Lucid, "The next generation of EV has truly arrived!"

The complete family of Lucid Air vehicles have received their official EPA rating testing on versions with both 19" and 21" wheels. The Lucid family of cars which have 6 models now take the top six positions for overall EPA range rating among EVs as well as the highest MPGe ratings in the Large vehicle class.

Official EPA AWD ratings:

• Lucid Air Dream Edition 19" wheels - 520 miles of Range (837 km) @ 933HP
• Lucid Air Dream Edition 21" wheels - 481 miles of Range (774 km) @ 933HP
• Lucid Air Dream Edition Performance 19" wheels - 471 miles of Range (758 km) @ 1,111HP
• Lucid Air Dream Edition Performance 21" wheels - 451 miles of Range (726 km) @ 1,111HP
• Lucid Air Grand Touring 19" wheels - 516 miles of Range (830 km) @ 800HP
• Lucid Air Grand Touring 21" wheels - 469 miles of Range (755 km) @ 800HP

Lucid does remind potential customers that EPA estimated ranges are meant to be a general guideline for consumers when comparing vehicles and can change up or down based on driving style. These ratings are based on the Lucid battery pack of approximately 113 kWh.

Lucid will also have lower levels of auto's to come following the production of the current 6 models. The following models will be released at a future date:

• Lucid Air Pure - 480 HP and 406 estimated range
• Lucid Air Touring - 620 HP and 406 estimated range

Pricing is as follows for the Lucid electric cars:

• Air Pure starting from $77,400
• Air Touring starting from $95,000
• Air Grand Touring starting from $139,000
• Air Dream Edition Range and Performance starting from $169,000

Lucid Configurator is available here: Configurator | Lucid Motors

Lucid is truly going after the highest end luxury auto market and is making a statement by surpassing the Tesla S Long Range electric car that currently has a 405 miles EPA range (652 km).

Lucid believes they have brought together following their company's mission statement of sustainable energy by creating the most captivating electric vehicles, centered around the human experience. The interior is a modern 21st century luxury of comfort driving experience. Lucid features a luxurious full-size interior space in a mid-size exterior footprint.

Production of the Lucid Air auto line is being done at Lucid's new factory in Casa Grande, Arizona.

To quote Motor Trend in their review of the Lucid Air Dream Edition R in a drive from Los Angeles to San Francisco California and back to the Lucid HQ in Newark California, this 445 mile trip was covered with 72 miles of range to spare, "This is a Mic Drop". Motor Trends Jonny Lieberman put's it this way: "Remember range anxiety? As with internal combustion engines, it's a thing of the past!"

In reviewing the information Lucid has released to date along with their pictures of of the exterior and interior of the cars, it appears a line has been drawn in the sane in regards to Luxury levels for the interior with the highest level of fit n finish.

Tesla, Mercedes, BMW, Audi, Porsche, Cadillac, Lincoln, Lexus, Infinity, Genesis, etc. are you luxury auto lines listening? Are you paying attention to the new bar in electrical efficiency and luxury expectations?

Welcome to the Lucid Air Revolution!

Lucid Air Officially EPA-Rated at 520 Miles of Range | Lucid Motors

Media Room | Lucid Motors

An absolute triumph of efficiency, Lucid Air achieves 520 miles of range. | Lucid Motors

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[balthazar]

Range is great.

Design is meh.

Pricing is insanely high.

[ccap41]

I think it's a lot better looking than most EVs from any of the legacy automakers. 

[balthazar]

Something about it (nose & tail) is coming off as very early '00s to me.

[ccap41]

1 hour ago, balthazar said:

Something about it (nose & tail) is coming off as very early '00s to me.

What EV doesn't look bad to you? What one would you allow in your driveway? (Not trying to be a dick, genuinely curious because you seen to greatly dislike most everything new and/or EV)

[Drew Dowdell]

1 hour ago, balthazar said:

Something about it (nose & tail) is coming off as very early '00s to me.

2000 Oldsmobile Profile concept with a light bar on front.

[surreal1272]

4 hours ago, balthazar said:

Range is great.

Design is meh.

Pricing is insanely high.

And? It’s a luxury EV. Besides the $81K model is going to have just over 400 miles of range. That’s 100 less than the top of the line Lucid but for half the price. 

[G. David Felt]

5 hours ago, balthazar said:

Range is great.

Design is meh.

Pricing is insanely high.

Yet even the EQS cannot compete with what this has to offer at the price point.

Right now this is making Tesla and Mercedes, heck even Porsche looking pathetic when you take performance and range into consideration.

I was going to post pictures of the Tesla S Plaid, EQS and Porsche and yet the ability seems to not be working right now.

[ccap41]

$81K is way more than I can afford but it really isn't THAT insane, considering vehicle prices these days. 

[Drew Dowdell]

I like it for a sedan, but I will likely end up with a Rivian eventually instead

[balthazar]

3 hours ago, ccap41 said:

What EV doesn't look bad to you? What one would you allow in your driveway? (Not trying to be a dick, genuinely curious because you seen to greatly dislike most everything new and/or EV)

Tier 1 : Taycan is very slick- Balthy like.
Model S hasn't a thing wrong with it exterior-wise, it's just old.

Tier 2 : I like the proportions of the Lyriq, but some of the details I do not. Have to see better/more pics, but it's a 'meh' so far.
I think the Hummer is a very well-done heritage design, but it's so far outside my realm I have to jack it down.
Lucid can go in here; it's not bad, but like I said above...
I like the Rivian's exterior other than the front- that's a no-go for me, but I wouldn't call it 'bad'.

Not much else worth commenting on. F-150 Lightning is just an altered F-150, it doesn't really 'qualify' as a 'BE design'.

- - - - - 
Oh; no foreign vehicles allowed (to live) in my driveway.
So tho from the design perspective I'd rate the Taycan #1, (even disregarding the price), I wouldn't own one.
I could live with a Rivian as far as looks go, but the current body configuration is of no use to me.

Edited September 16, 2021 by balthazar

[Drew Dowdell]

7 minutes ago, balthazar said:

Tier 1 : Taycan is very slick- Balthy like.
Model S hasn't a thing wrong with it exterior-wise, it's just old.

Tier 2 : I like the proportions of the Lyriq, but some of the details I do not. Have to see better/more pics, but it's a 'meh' so far.
I think the Hummer is a very well-done heritage design, but it's so far outside my realm I have to jack it down.
Lucid can go in here; it's not bad, but like I said above...
I like the Rivian's exterior other than the front- that's a no-go for me, but I wouldn't call it 'bad'.

Not much else worth commenting on. F-150 Lightning is just an altered F-150, it doesn't really 'qualify' as a 'BE design'.

- - - - - 
Oh; no foreign vehicles allowed (to live) in my driveway.
So tho from the design perspective I'd rate the Taycan #1, (even disregarding the price), I wouldn't own one.
I could live with a Rivian as far as looks go, but the current body configuration is of no use to me.

Could a Rivian R1S perhaps be a useful conveyance for Mrs. Balth (price aside).

[balthazar]

Pretty sure that would be outside her comfort zone, size-wise.

And although that clock is ticking, she still has to take her mother to appointments, a person who would never be able to climb up into an SUV.

I think once said clock stops, she may seriously consider getting back into a Mustang.
 

[Drew Dowdell]

16 minutes ago, balthazar said:

Pretty sure that would be outside her comfort zone, size-wise.

And although that clock is ticking, she still has to take her mother to appointments, a person who would never be able to climb up into an SUV.

I think once said clock stops, she may seriously consider getting back into a Mustang.
 

What's the opinion on the Mustang Mach E then?

[surreal1272]

38 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

I like it for a sedan, but I will likely end up with a Rivian eventually instead

The Rivian definitely intrigues me if I ever get in the market for a pick up.

[oldshurst442]

6 hours ago, balthazar said:

Something about it (nose & tail) is coming off as very early '00s to me.

yes.

I said this about the Lucid air a while back

On 2/21/2021 at 1:53 PM, oldshurst442 said:

 

Ah...yes!  I see (GM) Oldsmobile W-Body written all over it now that youve mentioned it.  

I also see 4rth gen Trans Am from the side profile.  (Dont ask.  Explaination in the random thoughts thread...)

All in all, Lucid Air could easily pass off as a General Motors product of the 1990s that has evolved to today.  The rounded aerodynamic body lines. The C Pillars.  The rounded front and rear quarter panels.  GM products from the late 1980s to the early 2000s all had that kind of styling.  

Yeah...I feel right at home when looking at the Lucid Air.  I like it a lot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 2/21/2021 at 12:54 AM, oldshurst442 said:

I figured out why I like the Lucid Air as much as I do.

The C Pillar and rounded rear quarter panel remind me of a 4rth gen F-Body Firebird. Even if the rear quarter panel is soooo short on the Lucid and sooooo long on the Pontiac. 

The rake of the front windshields of both vehicles also seems to be the same angle which also lends to my illusion of sameness and hence why I like the Lucid Air...because I LOVE the 4rth gen F-Body.  Its just a 4 door (EV) Trans Am in my eyes. 

OK...maybe its a far fetched figment of my imagination.  But its still MY personal fantasy produced by MY brain that WAS NOT elicited by the use of recreational drugs, but from MY awesome natural intellect, mental capacity and wit. 

(Should I go with a smug emogi to show how my intelligence is somehow superior to yours?   

Or should I go with a hipster dufus emogi cheering to show how "innocent" I may be in the "real world"? )

Maybe Ill just go with a laughy emogi to show that this post is serious and funny at the same time instead! 

 

 

[oldshurst442]

25 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

What's the opinion on the Mustang Mach E then?

 

(not a real Mustang)   would probably be the answer... 

 

 

[balthazar]

50 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

What's the opinion on the Mustang Mach E then?

Oh yeah; the Mach-E. Me; I think it looks pretty good- for a sports-inspired SUV I’d put it in Tier 1.
Not sure what the missus thinks of it- I pointed it out to her but she didn’t have more than a ‘it’s cute’ response.

She really doesn’t seem interested in a BE vehicle.

Asking…

[balthazar]

She says the front (Mach-E) ‘looks generic’ but she likes the rear. Told it’s $43K to start, no real reaction. Wasn’t aware it was electric (upon seeing the pic). When asked if she’d consider one, she said yeah; she’d look at it. When asked if she’d rather this or a Mustang coupe, she said ‘Oh yeah; the coupe’.
I told her she’d have to plug it in every other night and she said ‘Oh God, I’d never get anywhere!’ [note; she’s been home from work for about 2.5 hrs, and I just reminded her for the 2nd time her cell is still locked in her car.]

[Drew Dowdell]

39 minutes ago, balthazar said:

She says the front (Mach-E) ‘looks generic’ but she likes the rear. Told it’s $43K to start, no real reaction. Wasn’t aware it was electric (upon seeing the pic). When asked if she’d consider one, she said yeah; she’d look at it. When asked if she’d rather this or a Mustang coupe, she said ‘Oh yeah; the coupe’.
I told her she’d have to plug it in every other night and she said ‘Oh God, I’d never get anywhere!’ [note; she’s been home from work for about 2.5 hrs, and I just reminded her for the 2nd time her cell is still locked in her car.]

Her commute is that long?

she may say she wants a mustang, but  in my observation of women of a particular generation… they say that but end up in a small to mid-size crossover anyway for practicality reasons.

[balthazar]

She had one years back, then 5 sedans since. She says she doesn't care for SUV / CUVs.
That certainly could change if she test drove a bunch (sorry, online sales outlets!).

She's wistfully mentioned the Mustang coupe over the years. We test-sat in one around 10 years ago & she really liked that (a number of generations since hers). Our practicality reasons have narrowed to just her mother upon occasion, so we don't need more than a coupe for her.

Her commute is about 45-50 miles/day, tho she just restarted 3 days in / 2 days home this week (which was discontinued in March 2020).

[smk4565]

It has awesome range and horsepower, average styling and interior and it costs too much.  And doesn't have a dealer or service network, probably will be hard to find parts if it is involved in an accident.  I like that interior more than a Tesla with the yoke steering wheel, but the Tesla looks better on the outside I think.

I also thought it was interesting that the 730 hp EQS is badged "53" because AMG always does a "63" so there must be more coming.

[balthazar]

^ I agree that the exterior isn't a game changer, but disagree; the interior fits the 'luxury' bill fine.
 

44 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

730 hp EQS is badged "53" because AMG always does a "63" so there must be more coming.

What needs to be "coming" is an emergency redesign of the entire exterior.

[smk4565]

3 minutes ago, balthazar said:

^ I agree that the exterior isn't a game changer, but disagree; the interior fits the 'luxury' bill fine.
 

What needs to be "coming" is an emergency redesign of the entire exterior.

Wind tunnel is a factor, which I think they need to throw out the window.  Also their lead designer says traditional 3 box sedans will die with EV's because of how thick the floor is with the battery, it makes the vehicle taller and the sedan look doesn't work.  Although I am not a fan of jelly bean cars.

[balthazar]

1 hour ago, smk4565 said:

their lead designer says traditional 3 box sedans will die with EV's

Uh-huh. 
 

0.20 .cd; same at the pregnant whale EQS.

[Robert Hall]

That terrarium interior would get insanely hot in AZ....and isn't it built there? 

[surreal1272]

11 hours ago, balthazar said:

What needs to be "coming" is an emergency redesign of the entire exterior.

All of this!!

56 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

That terrarium interior would get insanely hot in AZ....and isn't it built there? 

Yes it is and I think you know the answer to that. Hell yes, it'll be hot but at least there you can legally have an "Arizona" tint on your car to mitigate some of that heat. You also know that some folks don't seem to care there either. My cousin had a loaded BLACK Tahoe with a BLACK leather interior that hardly ever spent time in her garage. Some folks are just nuts there lol, us my point. That interior will not stop most potential buyers there.

[Robert Hall]

9 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

All of this!!

Yes it is and I think you know the answer to that. Hell yes, it'll be hot but at least there you can legally have an "Arizona" tint on your car to mitigate some of that heat. You also know that some folks don't seem to care there either. My cousin had a loaded BLACK Tahoe with a BLACK leather interior that hardly ever spent time in her garage. Some folks are just nuts there lol, us my point. That interior will not stop most potential buyers there.

Doesn't like there is any provision for a sunshade either..  yeah, I remember having the dark tint on cars when I lived there. 

[ccap41]

16 hours ago, balthazar said:

Tier 1 : Taycan is very slick- Balthy like.
Model S hasn't a thing wrong with it exterior-wise, it's just old.

Tier 2 : I like the proportions of the Lyriq, but some of the details I do not. Have to see better/more pics, but it's a 'meh' so far.
I think the Hummer is a very well-done heritage design, but it's so far outside my realm I have to jack it down.
Lucid can go in here; it's not bad, but like I said above...
I like the Rivian's exterior other than the front- that's a no-go for me, but I wouldn't call it 'bad'.

Not much else worth commenting on. F-150 Lightning is just an altered F-150, it doesn't really 'qualify' as a 'BE design'.

- - - - - 
Oh; no foreign vehicles allowed (to live) in my driveway.
So tho from the design perspective I'd rate the Taycan #1, (even disregarding the price), I wouldn't own one.
I could live with a Rivian as far as looks go, but the current body configuration is of no use to me.

Thanks. I was jsut curious as it seemed like any EV you dogged hard for its looks (and of course price - which I completely agree with).

I dig the Rivians. They're quirky but they don't feel like they're quirky just to be quirky, like most EVs. 

The Taycan has grown on me. It originally just seemed awkward but I really like it now. 

[ccap41]

11 hours ago, smk4565 said:

Wind tunnel is a factor,

Lucid and Tesla have done the same and well... they don't look like the crop of electric Mercedes coming out. 

[Robert Hall]

34 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

My cousin had a loaded BLACK Tahoe with a BLACK leather interior that hardly ever spent time in her garage. Some folks are just nuts there lol, us my point. That interior will not stop most potential buyers there.

There were so many black SUVs in the Phoenix area.  I bought one..my Jeep..but I did get the black & cream interior.  My Jeep just has the factory window tint, not Arizona tint (it was only in AZ a short time, having come from So Cal).   I remember a coworker that had an FJ Cruiser and a Highlander, both black w/ black interiors... 

[G. David Felt]

Found this on a Lucid Forum to be of interesting Context for the all glass roof on Rivian and Lucid auto's.

A Rivian “guide” (personal sales representative) answered a series of questions posed by a Rivian reservation holder. Some of the answers possibly shed light on some issues that have been raised about Lucid Airs and might help us understand what could be going on at Lucid on these matters.

Electrochromic Dimming Glass

The technology required for curved glass was too expensive at present. The Rivian glass roof will not have a retractable shade, but Rivian is using a tint that actually blocks more light than electrochromic glass – less than 2% of the total spectrum gets through. (Lucid is making similar claims about the performance of their tint in southwest desert conditions.)

Interesting Tech Piece | Lucid Owners - Lucid Motors Forum

Then we have a .21 coefficient of drag which makes me think that Mercedes took the easy way out of designing the ugly jelly bean look of the EQS.

Lucid Air | Lucid Motors

Watch the auto run videos here where you see that the glass roof seems to be electrochromic glass as it darkens or maybe just the way they video'd. They do state the following which makes me think they are taking a tint approach like Rivian.

Quote:

Glass Canopy

A roof with a view.

Lucid Air is further opened up by its incredible Glass Canopy. This optional solid glass roof spans the entire cabin almost without interruption – giving everyone in the car a gorgeous view of the sky above. And while it’s crystal clear to your eyes, the Glass Canopy has a slew of protective interlayers to block out heat and sunlight.

Lucid Air | Design | Lucid Motors

[G. David Felt]

Lucid

Tesla

Porsche

Mercedes

Even Audi e-tron sedan that is coming to market and pretty much a Porsche with a redesign on the front is better looking than the EQS.

I would honestly take an Audi or Porsche over these other cars from a exterior design standpoint, but like @balthazar has stated only American auto's in my driveway.

But everyone knows I am an SUV/Truck man, so either Rivian, GM or Ford at this point.

So this is my options:

[G. David Felt]

With Pictures uploading again, I added the few Interior images to the picture folder for those wanting a detailed view of the inside of the Lucid.

[ccap41]

From the above list, my exterior aesthetics list in order of favorite to least favorite...

1: Porsche

2: Audi

2B: Tesla

2C: Lucid

 

Large Gap

 

5: Mercedes

 

[G. David Felt]

9 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

From the above list, my exterior aesthetics list in order of favorite to least favorite...

1: Porsche

2: Audi

2B: Tesla

2C: Lucid

 

Large Gap

 

5: Mercedes

 

Be interesting to see if Cadillac ever adds an electric car. I kind of doubt it at this time as I think this is a shrinking field of desire. I think Cadillac did right with the Lyriq.

[G. David Felt]

27 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

From the above list, my exterior aesthetics list in order of favorite to least favorite...

1: Porsche

2: Audi

2B: Tesla

2C: Lucid

 

Large Gap

 

5: Mercedes

 

FYI, Laughing is due to the Large Gap comment.  

[Robert Hall]

1 hour ago, David said:

Be interesting to see if Cadillac ever adds an electric car. I kind of doubt it at this time as I think this is a shrinking field of desire. I think Cadillac did right with the Lyriq.

I think the Celistiq is intended to have a car-like form. 

[Drew Dowdell]

17 hours ago, smk4565 said:

Wind tunnel is a factor, which I think they need to throw out the window.  Also their lead designer says traditional 3 box sedans will die with EV's because of how thick the floor is with the battery, it makes the vehicle taller and the sedan look doesn't work.  Although I am not a fan of jelly bean cars.

The overall shape of a vehicle has little to do with the drag coefficient. A 1998 Lexus LS or MB E-Class is 0.27. A 1998 Miata is 0.38, 97 Celica GTS is 0.37. Both the Miata and Celica have higher drag coefficients than a 2011 Sienna at 0.309
 

One of the worst is the G-Class at 0.53 and is only beaten for last place by a Wrangler soft top with the top off at 0.58

[smk4565]

4 hours ago, David said:

Be interesting to see if Cadillac ever adds an electric car. I kind of doubt it at this time as I think this is a shrinking field of desire. I think Cadillac did right with the Lyriq.

They'll have to do a sedan, unless they too will be an SUV only brand.

4 hours ago, ccap41 said:

From the above list, my exterior aesthetics list in order of favorite to least favorite...

1: Porsche

2: Audi

2B: Tesla

2C: Lucid

 

Large Gap

 

5: Mercedes

 

EQS will probably outsell all of them globally.  Although I am not a fan of the EQS or EQE looks, I much prefer the S-class or E-class looks.

[oldshurst442]

1. Audi E-Tron GT

Of course in the most conspicuous paint theme possible. 

If I ever had more money than God...  (why God???!!! Why do we say God...we SHOULD be saying the Devil...) Id buy this, and do a Tesla drivetrain, hardware and software swap on this...  A GM Ultium swap wouldnt be a bad idea either. 

 

2.   TIED

A)  Lucid Air

Very Oldsmobile-ish

Very 1990s early 2000s.  Which I feel very comfortable with.

For how long tho?  

 

B)

Even though I feel that the Model S is loooong in the tooth. I feel because of the lack of nice designs in the EV word yet, the Model S still stands out as a looker. 

With the little lip crease they did in the front, it pops just enough to look fresh. The back end needs a LOT of help. It hasnt been refreshed and it desperately needs it.   

 

Its like the Dodge Challenger.  Its an old design.  But it still works.  But for how much longer?  

 

3.  TIED

 

A)  Porsche Taycan

 

and

B) Hummer EV SUV

 

The Porsche is in 3rd place because I have gotten tired of the front end so soon. I think its because its got the Porsche family face on it and Im tired of seeing it. The ONLY car I like seeing that face is on the 911.  

The Hummer is not a vehicle Id be comfortable be seen in. Its NOT because of the 'phoque you' styling of it. But because of the SHEER size of it. I LOVE the fact that is a TRUCK of THAT magnitude. Its just that its a truck of that magnitude...   Not my style.  GREAT for an Arnold Swartzennegar,   or a Conor McGregor. Not for me.  Still LOVE the truck though. 

 

4) Custom Look Mustang Mach E GT

 

For an SUV...  I could go for this.  It doesnt got the presence and size of the Hummer.  But its got a certain sizzle that I would feel good about being inside it telling the world:  "hey...look what I got!   Yeah...its a Mustang! Got a problem???!!!  No! it got no V8! Its tall, 4 doors and its electric...  And best thing yet! Its a FORD!  Put THAT in your pipe and smoke it!" 

 

Edited September 18, 2021 by oldshurst442

[Robert Hall]

I like the E-Tron GT, but if I got a new Audi I'd go for the RS6...

[regfootball]

On 9/16/2021 at 1:08 PM, Drew Dowdell said:

2000 Oldsmobile Profile concept with a light bar on front.

BINGO!  i was going to say this Lucid is just a stolen GM design idea.  And i was thinking Olds also.

[ccap41]

On 9/17/2021 at 5:29 PM, smk4565 said:

EQS will probably outsell all of them globally.  Although I am not a fan of the EQS or EQE looks, I much prefer the S-class or E-class looks.

That's unfortunate that they'll be rewarded for the ungodly looks, but I do agree that it'll likely sell the best. 

[G. David Felt]

On 9/17/2021 at 3:29 PM, smk4565 said:

EQS will probably outsell all of them globally.  Although I am not a fan of the EQS or EQE looks, I much prefer the S-class or E-class looks.

I would not bet on this as while badge snobs will take it due to the MB logo, customers are showing they are not willing to be as loyal as some people think they are. 

Example is that Hardcore Apple Fans have lined up for the less than inspiring Apple 13 phone, but it is not selling like past phones and Samsung has clearly surpassed phone sales compared to Apple.

Every Dog has their day and then the Flees bite. The style could turn off many as other Luxury options in this class surpass in exterior style alone.

[G. David Felt]

Lucid has announced that their Dream Drive Pro will be the first auto use of Lidar for true autonomous driving. The video is worth watching, very cool system and way better than Tesla IMHO.

The full reveal: DreamDrive. | Lucid Motors

[2QuickZ's]

I'd have to rank them like this:

1) Audi eTron GT

2) Audi eTron GT ?

3) Lucid Air

4) Porsche Taycan (tie)

4) Tesla Model S (tie)

6) Mercedes EQS

I really, really like the look of that Audi.  The proportions and styling of that car really do it for me.

I also am a big fan of both the Rivian and the Hummer.  I don't think the Mustang Mach-e looks that bad either.  Someone in my neighborhood had a cyber orange GT parked in their driveway when I went for my lunch time walk yesterday and it didn't look half bad. Truth be told, the only one of these that would have even the smallest chance of ever winding up in my driveway is the Rivian.  Maybe a Lyriq if that back end ever grows on me.