4 hydro-electric dams to be dismantled

[balthazar]

Long but interesting read, would certainly have a negative effect on near-future electricity demand & sourcing... but the fish must win.
Tremendous slush money, undoubtedly a significant amount of which will be lost, mismanaged, misappropriated, re-directed or simply never get to where it was earmarked to go. Some of the numbers are too incredible to believe; $75,000,000 for one city's tourism promotion?? 

My favorite take-away? "Managed demand" for electricity in the region. Oh well, SSDD.

https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/environment/article248988810.html

[G. David Felt]

WOW, That is a big task especially after we removed 2 dams already on the Elwha River and replaced the power generation with green solutions. Seems a couple more dams are also coming down on the Pilchuck River here as well.

Washington dam removal means 37 more miles of salmon habitat restored (phys.org)

[Drew Dowdell]

On 2/7/2021 at 3:42 PM, balthazar said:

Long but interesting read, would certainly have a negative effect on near-future electricity demand & sourcing... but the fish must win.
Tremendous slush money, undoubtedly a significant amount of which will be lost, mismanaged, misappropriated, re-directed or simply never get to where it was earmarked to go. Some of the numbers are too incredible to believe; $75,000,000 for one city's tourism promotion?? 

My favorite take-away? "Managed demand" for electricity in the region. Oh well, SSDD.

https://www.idahostatesman.com/news/local/environment/article248988810.html

You don't know what Managed Demand is, do you?

[G. David Felt]

@Drew Dowdell Hate to make assumption but I believe your talking in regards to this: Demand-side management programs save energy and reduce peak demand - Today in Energy - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

Seems to be working just fine here in Washington state as we take down more dams and improve fish spawning to rebuild fish runs. Plus the replacement by Solar and Wind seems to be picking up any slack and we have plans for far off coast wind farms where stronger winds exist allowing for more energy production than the dams can produce.

[Drew Dowdell]

12 minutes ago, David said:

@Drew Dowdell Hate to make assumption but I believe your talking in regards to this: Demand-side management programs save energy and reduce peak demand - Today in Energy - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

Seems to be working just fine here in Washington state as we take down more dams and improve fish spawning to rebuild fish runs. Plus the replacement by Solar and Wind seems to be picking up any slack and we have plans for far off coast wind farms where stronger winds exist allowing for more energy production than the dams can produce.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm talking about. 

At my old job we put in loads of load monitors in manufacturing plants.  In one plant they had a number of those cyclone dust collector things. We put a load meter on each one. We were able to tell the plant owner that one of their cyclones was on its way to failure because it was using 4 times the electricity of the rest of them. Not only did it save the plant owner from an unplanned outage, it reduced the electricity usage of the cyclones dramatically.   That is an outlier of an example, but we were able to provide recommendations to plant owners to adjust shifts to save money among other insights.