September 2019: Mercedes-Benz USA

[Drew Dowdell]

Mercedes-Benz Passenger Vehicles	Sep-19	Sep-18	Monthly %	YTD 2019	YTD 2018	Yearly %
A-CLASS	2,303	_	_	13,440	_	_
B-CLASS*	0	0	-	8	133	-94.0%
CLA	623	2,377	-73.8%	8,292	17,148	-51.6%
C-CLASS	4,073	4,682	-13.0%	38,174	42,252	-9.7%
E-CLASS/CLS	3,523	4,072	-13.5%	29,904	32,013	-6.6%
S-CLASS	778	684	13.7%	8,778	10,334	-15.1%
SLC	75	125	-40.0%	1,542	1,506	2.4%
SL	159	134	18.7%	1,333	1,569	-15.0%
AMG GT	347	89	289.9%	2,868	1,207	137.6%
GLA	1,678	2,436	-31.1%	15,131	17,235	-12.2%
GLC	6,840	6,070	12.7%	52,621	50,585	4.0%
GLE	4,862	3,807	27.7%	33,358	34,617	-3.6%
GLS	1,798	1,554	15.7%	13,696	14,405	-4.9%
G-CLASS	374	139	169.1%	5,067	2,380	112.9%
TOTAL	27,433	26,169	4.8%	224,212	225,384	-0.5%
Vans1	4,569	4,448	2.7%	28,845	28,023	2.9%
MBUSA Combined Total	Sep-19	Sep-18	Monthly %	YTD 2019	YTD 2018	Yearly %
GRAND TOTAL	32,002	30,617	4.5%	253,057	253,407	-0.1%
*Model has been discontinued in the US market. 1 Mercedes-Benz, Freightliner Sprinter and Metris Vans are sold and marketed in the U.S. by Mercedes-Benz USA and Daimler Vans USA, respectively.

[G. David Felt]

WOW, that is Ugly at MB, clearly their sales are not taking off even with new models. Really surprised that they have not killed off some models by now even though they say they are going too.

[smk4565]

Up 4.8% for the month, down 0.5% for the year in a market that is shrinking.  

SLC is a dead car, current GLA is probably out of production and new CLA just hit dealers in September, the SUVs are on fire, and they have GLB and EQ C coming to next year. I wish more people bought the sedans, but people are just leaving sedans sadly.

[G. David Felt]

45 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

Up 4.8% for the month, down 0.5% for the year in a market that is shrinking.  

SLC is a dead car, current GLA is probably out of production and new CLA just hit dealers in September, the SUVs are on fire, and they have GLB and EQ C coming to next year. I wish more people bought the sedans, but people are just leaving sedans sadly.

Final number is 4.5% for the whole company and a rare up when the last big portion of the year it has been negative.

[smk4565]

11 minutes ago, dfelt said:

Final number is 4.5% for the whole company and a rare up when the last big portion of the year it has been negative.

If you want to include Vans, they are down 0.1% for the year and ahead of BMW.  But I don't like to compare MB total vs BMW since it isn't fair to throw Vans in.  

Infiniti, Lexus and Acura are suffering huge losses, when GM and Ford numbers come out tomorrow, I bet Lincoln and Cadillac are as well.   If Mercedes even ends the year even that is good when most of the luxury market is down double digits.

[surreal1272]

List of Mercedes models with positive gains for the year:

SLC

AMG-GT

GLC

G-Class

Vans

 

List of Mercedes models with negative gains:

Lets just say it's a much longer list.

 

 

But yeah, Mercedes is doing AWESOME! The Best or Nothing!

[smk4565]

GLE and GLS could finish up for the year, they were hurt by model changeover and no inventory.  Look at the GLE now with full inventory.  GLS and CLA are just hitting dealers now.   Sedans are down every where, 3,00 E-class is great when Lexus sold 350 GS’s.  And Mercedes has EQ C, EQ B, GLB and Maybach SUV next year since all people want are more SUVs.

[ccap41]

-0.5% on the year, not bad considering there are a lot doing much worse. 

[surreal1272]

2 hours ago, smk4565 said:

GLE and GLS could finish up for the year, they were hurt by model changeover and no inventory.  Look at the GLE now with full inventory.  GLS and CLA are just hitting dealers now.   Sedans are down every where, 3,00 E-class is great when Lexus sold 350 GS’s.  And Mercedes has EQ C, EQ B, GLB and Maybach SUV next year since all people want are more SUVs.

Good thing you explained that. It seems like Mercedes is the only with older models on the way out, model changeovers, or any other number of excuses you have given Mercedes whenever things are less than stellar for them. 
 

And if all people want are more SUVs, why are Mercedes SUVs showing a decline (save for the G Class)?

[ccap41]

and GLC

[surreal1272]

Thank you Captain Correcty. If you actually read the post above that, you would have seen that I listed the GLC under models with a positive gain. 

[ccap41]

1 hour ago, surreal1272 said:

And if all people want are more SUVs, why are Mercedes SUVs showing a decline (save for the G Class)?

I have no clue why I would have also stated the GLC. 

[smk4565]

1 hour ago, surreal1272 said:

Good thing you explained that. It seems like Mercedes is the only with older models on the way out, model changeovers, or any other number of excuses you have given Mercedes whenever things are less than stellar for them. 
 

And if all people want are more SUVs, why are Mercedes SUVs showing a decline (save for the G Class)?

I explained why GLE and GLS were down for the year, model change, notice the GLE has had increased the past few months.

GLE up 27% this month, yes people want their SUV’s.

[Drew Dowdell]

I just notice.. they're not bothering to report SMART sales anymore. 

[ccap41]

5 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

I just notice.. they're not bothering to report SMART sales anymore. 

Just add 3 to the total number. 

[surreal1272]

1 hour ago, Drew Dowdell said:

I just notice.. they're not bothering to report SMART sales anymore. 

That's because they can be recorded much faster on one hand lol.

19 hours ago, smk4565 said:

I explained why GLE and GLS were down for the year, model change, notice the GLE has had increased the past few months.

GLE up 27% this month, yes people want their SUV’s.

"Explain" it all you want. All you can reasonably determine is that folks want the GLE and not much else. Fact.

 

 

[surreal1272]

On 10/1/2019 at 5:12 PM, smk4565 said:

If you want to include Vans, they are down 0.1% for the year and ahead of BMW.  But I don't like to compare MB total vs BMW since it isn't fair to throw Vans in.  

Infiniti, Lexus and Acura are suffering huge losses, when GM and Ford numbers come out tomorrow, I bet Lincoln and Cadillac are as well.   If Mercedes even ends the year even that is good when most of the luxury market is down double digits.

Cadillac up 6.5% for the quarter. You were saying?

[ccap41]

I don't know, more than 52,000 GLCs have been sold year to date. I wouldn't say people only want the GLE. 

[ccap41]

17 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

Cadillac up 6.5% for the quarter. You were saying?

7.2%, is what I see. 2.2% year to year. 

[smk4565]

59 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

Cadillac up 6.5% for the quarter. You were saying?

Cadillac up was a surprise to me because all the sedans are down and XT5 is down 15%.  I didn’t think Escalade would be up with new competition in the segment, and XT4 is making up for lost ground elsewhere.