I have not been sleeping well as of late...

[Sixty8panther]

WHY?

http://storm.tocmp.com/oldsmobile1964.htm

There's a small chance I might be rollin' in a 1964 Super 88 soon.

So for the past 5 nights I stay up at night with images of metallic

stitching, the chrome AM radio, Ultra High Performance 394, four

door hardtop roofline and the soon to be eBay listing for my 1968

Camaro. By the 4th of July I might be driving around in a classic

Oldsmobile and the Camaro wil have a new owner.

Any member of C&G can come by and take my Camaro off my

hands right now for $3500 motor and all!

[Camino LS6]

WHY?

http://storm.tocmp.com/oldsmobile1964.htm

There's a small chance I might be rollin' in a 1964 Super 88 soon.

So for the past 5 nights I stay up at night with images of metallic

stitching, the chrome AM radio, Ultra High Performance 394, four

door hardtop roofline and the soon to be eBay listing for my 1968

Camaro. By the 4th of July I might be driving around in a classic

Oldsmobile and the Camaro wil have a new owner.

Any member of C&G can come by and take my Camaro off my

hands right now for $3500 motor and all!

Don't sell the Camaro short,68. Even shells can bring the money you are asking, I think you'll be surprised how it does on Ebay.

[Flybrian]

Sell your Datsun and use the proceeds for the five gallons of gas you need to get this Olds.

[NOS2006]

Sell your Datsun and use the proceeds for the five gallons of gas you need to get this Olds.

Ouch.

[Enzora]

why (adv.)

For what purpose, reason, or cause; with what intention, justification, or motive

[ocnblu]

You should be able to sell the Panther pretty quickly for that price, 68. From what you've told us, it's got some rust and mechanical issues.

I had a second cousin who had a white '64 Starfire with red vinyl interior. That thing was so big, breezy and confident. No wonder GM was so far above everyone else at that time. The '64 Olds is a solid, sweet car.

[Sixty8panther]

Enzora & for all others who are thinking WTF?

(this is the long version of the story)

Ever since I can remember I wanted a 1st gen. Camaro,

more than anything a 1969 Camaro spoke to me. More than

anything short of a 911 Turbo or a McLaren F1, but those

are a lot less obtainable and lack the soul and character of

the original F-body.

So in the summer of 2002 I bought one. The night I drove

it home was the happiest day of my life until my daughter

Sofia was born. I stayed up for hours just starring at it.

I sat in the window sill and just drooled. It was like a drug,

just turning the key and hearing the motor turn over gave

me goosebumps. The ratchet shifter clicking into gear

with its heavy mechanical sound was enough to raise my

heartbeat.

Everything true 60s muscle cars stand for this car has

in abundance. It's scary and gets the adrenaline flowing

just with it's sound alone. I've sat in the car before for a

good 20 minutes just listening to the deep, thundering

sound of the exhaust note. It's intoxicating... those long

fenders and "Cheetah-like" rear quarters and the way the

1/4 windows squeak and swish their way down into the

body and take the chrome-strip B-pillar with them.

Listen to me going on and on and on...

The Camaro is a part of who I am, it's one of the few

material possessions in this world that I'd almost take a

bullet for. I love it like a member of the family and so

I must give it a proper send off. To have it sit and rot

for another few years untill I can give it a restoration

and make it roadworthy is selfish and stupid.

It needs rear quarters, it needs brakes so bad that I

have been irresponsible to even drive it for the past

four years to begin with... the parcel shelf & window

edges are rotted out and the damage from my guardrail

scrape was never repaired. The wiring harness should

have been replaced about 10 years ago and the trans.

that I installed back in 2004 lasted about 2 weeks

before my 7000 rpm shifts blew 2nd gear into shrapnel,

not to mention it's been 18 months since I replaced the

rear end and I've still yet to do the right thing by

rebuilding and upgrading it.

Since fall of 2004 I've been banned from N.E.D.

because my "Panther" is a little too MAD MAX for

pulling 13.9 runs without anything even resembling

safety equiptment.

The car deserves a restoration and a new lease on

life and I'm not the guy to do it. I wish I had the cash

& the tools but I don't and I the end if I did restore the

car I'd end up with a drag car... at this point in my life

I've moved on beyond speed and horsepower. I want

a classic to enjoy wiht my whole family, the Camaro

is not it at this point.

Everytime I see a classic big landyacht driving down

the road on a Sunday afternoon to the local ice cream

joint with a little bright eyed kid in the backseat who

will grow up to be a car nut of the truest variety I get

jelaous. The Camaro is a toy for burnouts and the 1/4

mile, I want to move on to the next stage of my life.

I want a summertime daily driver that I can enjoy with

Marcia & Sofia not just by myself. A 1958 Desoto

Firesweep, 1961 Cadillac Fleetwood hardtop or esp. a

1959 Buick hardtop 4dr.

Since I set the goal of obtaining a 1959 Buick by this fall

I have looked at a few and kept an eye on eBay. I still

hope to own one by then but if this "stepping stone"

1964 Oldsmobile pushes back that deadline a bit so be it.

It's a deal of a lifetime and I'm jumping on it. The 1964

Oldsmobile four door hardtops are at this moment in

time my favorite Oldsmobiles of ALL time.

If I could only ever own ONE more Oldsmobile before I

die a 1964 Super 88 Holiday is THE ONE.

[Sixty8panther]

You should be able to sell the Panther pretty quickly for that price, 68.  From what you've told us, it's got some rust and mechanical issues.

Hopefully, either way it's the whole "buy low, sell high" concept.

I sell a car that needs $10,000 worth of work for $5000 but then

buy a car for $2200 that needs like $1500 worth of work. The

result? I get a classic car I can be proud of instead one that

looks & drives like I'm a scumbag who likes to neglect an

antique car.

[daves87rs]

If it was an automatic, 68, I'd consider it...

There is no way in hell I'm going the teach the wife how to drive a stick in a classic car...

I myself love the muscle cars...but I just want a "cruiser" to enjoy.

Something I can take others around in..even the little ones...

And for my wife to truely get in to the classic thing, a long srive is the only way...

[daves87rs]

Enzora & for all others who are thinking WTF?

(this is the long version of the story)

Ever since I can remember I wanted a 1st gen. Camaro,

more than anything a 1969 Camaro spoke to me. More than

anything short of a 911 Turbo or a McLaren F1, but those

are a lot less obtainable and lack the soul and character of

the original F-body.

So in the summer of 2002 I bought one. The night I drove

it home was the happiest day of my life until my daughter

Sofia was born. I stayed up for hours just starring at it.

I sat in the window sill and just drooled. It was like a drug,

just turning the key and hearing the motor turn over gave

me goosebumps. The ratchet shifter clicking into gear

with its heavy mechanical sound was enough to raise my

heartbeat.

Everything true 60s muscle cars stand for this car has

in abundance. It's scary and gets the adrenaline flowing

just with it's sound alone. I've sat in the car before for a

good 20 minutes just listening to the deep, thundering

sound of the exhaust note. It's intoxicating... those long

fenders and "Cheetah-like" rear quarters and the way the

1/4 windows squeak and swish their way down into the

body and take the chrome-strip B-pillar with them.

Listen to me going on and on and on...

The Camaro is a part of who I am, it's one of the few

material possessions in this world that I'd almost take a

bullet for. I love it like a member of the family and so

I must give it a proper send off. To have it sit and rot

for another few years untill I can give it a restoration

and make it roadworthy is selfish and stupid.

It needs rear quarters, it needs brakes so bad that I

have been irresponsible to even drive it for the past

four years to begin with... the parcel shelf & window

edges are rotted out and the damage from my guardrail

scrape was never repaired. The wiring harness should

have been replaced about 10 years ago and the trans.

that I installed back in 2004 lasted about 2 weeks

before my 7000 rpm shifts blew 2nd gear into shrapnel,

not to mention it's been 18 months since I replaced the

rear end and I've still yet to do the right thing by

rebuilding and upgrading it.

Since fall of 2004 I've been banned from N.E.D.

because my "Panther" is a little too MAD MAX for

pulling 13.9 runs without anything even resembling

safety equiptment.

The car deserves a restoration and a new lease on

life and I'm not the guy to do it. I wish I had the cash

& the tools but I don't and I the end if I did restore the

car I'd end up with a drag car... at this point in my life

I've moved on beyond speed and horsepower. I want

a classic to enjoy wiht my whole family, the Camaro

is not it at this point.

Everytime I see a classic big landyacht driving down

the road on a Sunday afternoon to the local ice cream

joint with a little bright eyed kid in the backseat who

will grow up to be a car nut of the truest variety I get

jelaous. The Camaro is a toy for burnouts and the 1/4

mile, I want to move on to the next stage of my life.

I want a summertime daily driver that I can enjoy with

Marcia & Sofia not just by myself. A 1958 Desoto

Firesweep, 1961 Cadillac Fleetwood hardtop or esp. a

1959 Buick hardtop 4dr.

Since I set the goal of obtaining a 1959 Buick by this fall

I have looked at a few and kept an eye on eBay. I still

hope to own one by then but if this "stepping stone"

1964 Oldsmobile pushes back that deadline a bit so be it.

It's a deal of a lifetime and I'm jumping on it. The 1964

Oldsmobile four door hardtops are at this moment in

time my favorite Oldsmobiles of ALL time.

If I could only ever own ONE more Oldsmobile before I

die a 1964 Super 88 Holiday is THE ONE.

Yep, family changes the view of everything.

[the_yellow_dart]

haha... dave, can you imagine?

- "OK honey, easy off the clutch, on the power at the same time..."

- Stalls Camaro

- "That's OK, let's try again..."

- Overcompensates, does a 10 second burnout while screaming at the top of her lungs

[daves87rs]

haha... dave, can you imagine?

- "OK honey, easy off the clutch, on the power at the same time..."

- Stalls Camaro

- "That's OK, let's try again..."

- Overcompensates, does a 10 second burnout while screaming at the top of her lungs

Yep. You are sooo right on that one...

that thought really gave me a good laugh...

[knightfan26917]

*raises eyebrow*

That is quite a switch, 68, but I can certainly understand your reasoning and motivation for making the change....

So....good luck!

(And glad to know that the "not sleeping well" is not due to health issues or family issues.)

Cort, "Mr MC" / "Mr Road Trip", 32swm/pig valve/pacemaker

MC:family.IL.guide.future = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort/

Models.HO = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort/trainroom.html

"I'm just out to find the better part of me" ... 5 For Fighting ... 'Superman'

[Sixty8panther]

It's an automatis beleive it or not... the B&M shifter

makes it more fun to drive by a small degree

because I've disconnected the throttle kick down so

that I have to shift it manualy. This is also how I

get teens for MPG. The car's got enough torque to

pull itself from 20 -mph top sixty in just a few

seconds while in 3rd gear.

My Camaro is the only semi-automatic that does

not have some B.S. computer "over ride" function

that does the exact opposite of what youy want. I

put it in 1st it stayes there.

I love my Sixty-eight Panther and so I post many

flattering pictures of it but the car has a LOT of

cosmetic issues.

[Sixty8panther]

Here's some photos.

If I buy it this will be by far the lowest mileage car

I will have ever owned, and yet since it's a 1964

M.Y. it will be the oldest.

My 1968 Camaro has about 197,000 on the body,

this car is 4 years older and at 24,000 miles is

the epitome of a survivor. Even cardboard tags

in the engine bay are still present & legible.

[76ChevyTrucker]

Looks like a nice find and if I could EVER convince Amy to let me have a Camaro, I'd damn sure buy yours, and I would take the time to restore it. And yes, I could see my wife learning to drive a stick in a classic Camaro and doing burnouts every single time.

[Camino LS6]

So.

You buying it, or not?

[Sixty8panther]

If I could drive to down town Lowell right now and

have some illegal immigrant Chinese doctor scoop

out my Kidney with a rusty scalpel for $3000 this

car would be in my driveway about 2 hours later.

[76ChevyTrucker]

Yeah, you could 68, but then you'd have to recoup from the surgery and it would be even longer before you could start on that beaut.

[speedingpenguin]

haha while he recovers from the surgery (if you wanna call it that), he's got a few friends who I'm sure would be more than willing to drive such a fine automobile back to Tyngsborough for him :-P

though most likely (even without the surgery) it will be put on a flatbed to get to his house.

The car is really nice. I went with him when he looked at the car, it really is sweet. under the car is a little less than perfect, as is the rear bumper and some of the paint, but the interior is AMAZING, and nothing is in "bad" shape at all..... just some spots arent as perfect as others :-D

[76ChevyTrucker]

those are the miracle cars that everyone always looks for.

[Camino LS6]

Too bad I don't still have this:

http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index...?showtopic=6696

I'd have given you a great deal. :AH-HA_wink:

[Sixty8panther]

Neat Delmont you had there Camino...

do you know where the car is now?

those are the miracle cars that everyone always looks for.

That's pretty much the thing... this is a car that makes the almighty

'64 Impala look plain & economical by comparison, but on top of

that & the very cool 394 motor it's a true once-in-a-lifetime deal.

24,000 miles is low milage for a 4 year old car, never mind a 42

year old one!

Make no mistake, this car will not see a wet/icey/snow covered

road EVER. Perhaps after the summer is over and I've had my fun

with it I'll trade it straight up for that 1959 Electra Flat top at

Goldenrod Garage in Maine. Then durring next winter since I'll

almost surely have a decent garage, I can get the Buick road

worthy for ultimate whip for 2007. After that I'll ease on up on the

spending & wait for the 2009 Camaro.

Edited May 31, 2006 by Sixty8panther

[Camino LS6]

I sold the Delmont to a guy who worked for me at the time and he kept getting parking tickets so the car was impounded. I'm guessing that it became a cube of steel soon after. I wasn't happy about it.

[Sixty8panther]

You never know... someone probably bought it at a

police auction, or at least I hope.

[daves87rs]

Here's some photos.

If I buy it this will be by far the lowest mileage car

I will have ever owned, and yet since it's a 1964

M.Y. it will be the oldest.

My 1968 Camaro has about 197,000 on the body,

this car is 4 years older and at 24,000 miles is

the epitome of a survivor. Even cardboard tags

in the engine bay are still present & legible.

After really looking at it....I love it!

Now that is a cruiser!

Make sure you keep and eye on it, or the next time you see it it will be lowered on riding on dubs...

[Sixty8panther]

Make sure you keep and eye on it, or the next time you see it it will be lowered on riding on dubs...

No dubs, no airbag suspension, no bling-bling.

Those hubcaps and whitewalls are perfect IMHO.

I will however install a modern LED CHiMSL so

long as it does not involve any kind of cutting or

anything intrusive. XP thinks they're stupid but

I'm a bit obsessed with good rear lights & third

brake lights.

My Datsun, Fleetwood Brougham & even Camaro

have/had CHiMSLs from Cadillac STS trunks.