HAIR BANDS

[regfootball]

this topic is for talking hair bands! new or old, let's revive this great music!

[regfootball]

I'm listening to a band everyone here in the US needs to hear.

WIG WAM

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Let's be honest – the guys look pretty freeking bad and their image definitely plays on the whole taking-the-mickey out of the genre they represent. These guys are walking the thin line between tribute and parody that The Darkness also treads.

Where Wig Wam gets it right over The Darkness is that they don't try and take the piss on every track. Yes, they have a $h!load of fun, but there are serious moments too.

And the songwriting is nothing short of fantastic – inspired by the very best moments of an era now past, with the production sound and energy of today's technology.

And Wig Wam don't have a bloody annoying vocalist who doesn't know how much is too much.

These guys are a class act and the performances on this record better their debut in every way - better vocals, better hooks and melodies, bigger backing vocals and a collection of very memorable songs.

Anyone that owns anything by Poison, Kiss or even early Van Halen needs to check these guys out – if you haven't already been converted.

The Bottom Line

Wig Wam do have that 'look at me' image, but thankfully their music has far more depth and the songs speak for themselves. This album has an amazing sound that any major label would be proud of and fans of late 80s hard rocking anthems are going to be blown away by the consistency of this collection of good fun rockers and blazing guitar fueled anthems.

One album that is destined to feature in many year-end 'best of' lists.

and I have heard their other debut HARD TO BE A ROCK AND ROLLER and its awesome.

I am listening to clips if this new one WIGWAMANIA now and they are awesome too.

too bad you have to buy this as an import.

talk hair bands here, new or old.

Edited May 24, 2006 by regfootball

[Sixty8panther]

Flock of Seagulls!

[Satty]

Flock of Seagulls!

I wonder what the guy with the hair is up to now. The other three are probably insurance salesmen somewhere, but that guy, he has to be up to something great. Or he's dead.

[ocnblu]

He's not only the president of the Hair Club for Men, he's also a client.

[Hudson]

A Flock of Seagulls (technically not a "hair band") was on the NBC show "Hit Me Baby One More Time" last summer where they performed with the likes of the Motels (or atleast Martha Davis of...), Tiffany, the Knack (or atleast Doug Figer of...), Wang Chung, Vanilla Ice, Tommy Tutone, and Missing Persons.

Back to the subject, I was a big "hair band" fan back in the day. But my tastes tended to shy away from the Poisons and Warrants of the world. I still like Def Leppard, Kix, House of Lords, and the like.

[Nick]

[regfootball]

let's hear some love for

DANGER DANGER

DRIVE, SHE SAID

DIVING FOR PEARLS

SURVIVOR

ANDY TAYLOR (solo album)

MITCH MALLOY (debut solo album, extremely recommended if you a fan of the genre)

KANE ROBERTS

WINGER

select DOKKEN

POISON RATT MOTLEY CRUE

later KISS

[regfootball]

I wasn't a huge SKID ROW fan.

[regfootball]

WHITE LION was a little weak.

[Cory Wolfe]

Um... not really a hair band fan... Just give me some Metallica, GNR, Ozzy, SOAD, MM, or some KoRn. Oh... and some Queen. Gotta love Love Queen.

[04monteintimidator]

i will say this once more... and this will be the last time i say it... Skid Row... is not, was not, will never be... hair metal... they were similar to Guns N Roses in sound AND image... they did not wear spandex and makeup... nor did they constantly sing about strippers and drugs... thank you

on another note... only two hair bands count...

Motley Crue (pretty much started it all)

Twisted Sister (if Dee Snider doesnt scare the crap out of you... noone will)

as far as weak hair bands... there are three that come to mind...

Poison

Ratt

Nelson

Poison was far overrated... little more than an efeminate Motley Crue...

Ratt sucked because they were only famous cuz they had Milton Berle in those two videos... the music was garbage

Nelson... twins with straight blonde hair+guitars they cant really play= Hair Metal's Boy Band... enough said

[Satty]

Where is the love for Culture Club?

let's hear some love for

WINGER

She's only seventeen. Daddy says she's too young but she's old enough for me.

Creepy.

[regfootball]

winger is reuniting for a new album soon........BTW

[FAPTurbo]

Where is the love for Culture Club?

She's only seventeen.  Daddy says she's too young but she's old enough for me.

Creepy.

w-Wait... that sounds an awful lot like the first few lines in Motley Crue's "All In the Name Of"...

"She's only fifteen

She's the reason-the reason that I can't sleep

You say illegal

I say legal's never been my scene"

sheesh...

[mustang84]

I have music by all the following hair bands (note: some aren't true hair bands, but they all kinda fit under that 80s metal sound so I'm putting them in)

Ace Frehley (his solo years in the late 80s), Antix, Anvil, Arcade, Bad English, Badlands, Bang Tango, Blue Murder, Bon Jovi, Bonfire, Bonham, Britny Fox, Bullet Boys, Cats in Boots, Cinderella, Damn Yankees, Danger Danger, Dare Force, David Lee Roth, Def Leppard, Dokken, Don Dokken, Europe, Every Mother's Nightmare, Extreme, Faster Pussycat, Firehouse, Giuffria, Great White, Guns N' Roses, Hanoi Rocks, Heart, Helix, House of Lords, Hurricane, Kidd Blue, Kik Tracee, King Kobra, KISS, Kix, Krokus, LA Guns, Lillian Axe, Lion, The Loudness, Love-Hate, Lynch Mob, Motley Crue, Mr. Big, Night Ranger, Poison, Quiet Riot, Ratt, Rox Diamond, Sammy Hagar, Scorpions, Slaughter, Skid Row, Smashed Gladys, Spectre General, Starship (I would kinda consider them a hair band), Steelheart, Stryper, Sweet Cheater, Surrender, Tesla, Trixter (almost ashamed to say so), Twisted Sister, Vain, Van Halen, Warlock, Warrant, Waysted, White Lion, Whitesnake, Wildside, Winger, XYZ, Y&T, and Zebra

...yes, I have a sh*tload of obscure music on my computer.

I just picked up Ratt's "Out of the Cellar" at the store the other day...I've been looking for it forever, even though I already have most of the songs off that album. I'm a big Ratt fan and that album is a classic...probably one of my favorite albums of '84. It's one of my desert island discs. The great thing about Ratt was all the dual guitar action they had going on, and their solos always kicked ass...I'm thinking of "Scene of the Crime" right now.

I saw them a couple summers ago at an outdoor concert with Warrant, Dokken, LA Guns, Slaughter, and Tesla. Ratt went on right before Dokken and completely blew them away. Dokken was good back in the day when they had Lynch, but they've gone downhill since then.

Edited May 28, 2006 by mustang84

[Cory Wolfe]

Hair "glam" bands are bad for your musically inclined health.

[FAPTurbo]

Hair "glam" bands are bad for your musically inclined health.

It is... but I balance it out with Rush, so it's good.

[Hudson]

Giuffria's first album (I have both of their albums) was one of the most underrated rock records of the 1980s. And I can't believe that I'm not the only person who has some House of Lords (I have all three albums) and Kix (I have all of their albums).

[Guest YellowJacket894]

Teeeeeeeeedddd Nugent gotcha in a stranglehold baby.

(That crazy sonnabitch.)

Seriously, though, the guy has some stuff I can listen to.

[mustang84]

Giuffria and House of Lords rock. I didn't find out about them until a couple months ago when a friend sent me some of their albums, but they have a great sound and a great vocalist. "Metallic Blue" is a great song to cruise to on the highway with the windows down.

Kix is a great band too...I have Midnite Dynamite and Blow My Fuse, plus a few songs off the debut album.

"RED light, GREEN light...T-N-T!!"

[mustang84]

Some vids:

Rock and roll excess at its best (or worst, depending on how you look at it)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABmuA159egA

Cinderella - Somebody Save Me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8uZjNDZ-ng

Skid Row - 18 & Life

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55SLPPALOoo

Paul Gilbert, the amazing guitarist from Mr. Big, doing his thing

More Gilbert, this time the band Racer X playing "Scarified"

Dokken

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI-TO_SCMxo

Motley Crue on their drug-ridden '87 tour playing Wild Side

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbFmOkHylCs

[deftonesfan867]

Err, ummmmm...no comment. Some of it is OK, but not really my thing.

[regfootball]

mustang-was that Ratt with Stephen Pearcy or Jizzy Pearl?

I saw Ratt with Pearcy like literally one of the very last times before they booted Pearcy. He sucked that night, but the rest of the band was good.

Ratt's albums indvidually were all ok, not great, but their compilation disc RATT N' ROLL is one of the best greatest hits discs I can think of, especially for hair bands. Every song is top notch. Incidentally, their best non GH album was probably Detonator, which by that point was the very end of the hair band popultion surge and that album did not sell well. That was about the time I worked as a music manager at a best buy and it was so amazing to see a 180 degree shift in the buying tastes of music fans right about that time to rap. Literally, an overnight shift like flicking a switch. Any band that tried to get established right around 1990 or so got one chance or maybe two albums and then got dropped in favor of stuff like KRIS KROSS etc.

Damn mustang, your hair band collection is much more diverse than mine.

Damn Yankees- seen them twice and love their albums. They still might do one more record together. Ted was so bored playing this stuff in concert compared to his solo shows.

Danger Danger- Their debut album is tremendous. They should have been huge but they hit exactly as the tide turned to rap. They actually just put out a live album that sounds good, with their old classics.

David Lee Roth- people seem to have forgot how good his solo albums are. Some thought A Little Ain't Enough was not very good, but I really like that one as well as the ones before it. Anything after that pretty much is not good.

Def Leppard- I tried to address this in a separate topic. Anyone who starts f-king with me, remaking Debbie Harry Blondie songs is gonna have my ire. It is worthy of its own discussion.

DEF LEPPARD, where did it go wrong.

Dokken- I am very hot and cold on them. They should have been bigger.

Europe- kind of gay for me, ? but their FINAL COUNTDOWN song lived on in sports arenas everywhere.

Firehouse- the ultimate midwest party band. These guys have a bigger following than folks give them credit for. Their debut album we could literally not keep in stock and everything else they put out was good and deserved more credit. You can almost hear drunken youngsters sream 'wooooohooooo!' when the drum beat and guitar starts at the beginning of the first song Rock on the Radio.

Giuffria- sounds like Steve Perry! actually they were good. I heard something recently about Gregg Guiffria joining another band. I usually read my tidbits on www.melodicrock.com

Great White- they were so good it was almost like they were on fire.

(lightning strike)

Guns N' Roses- you really cannot say what has not already been said. Perhaps the best example of the genre. I cannot wait for the CHINESE DEMOCRACY, even if its just axl.

Heart- there are two versions of Heart. The 70's freebird kind and the hair band type. The girls don't really like to acknowledge the hair band version of Heart. I still remember listeining to the HEART album with a special girl friend all the time my senior year in high school. She did end up breaking my heart by the way. But all the hair band Heart albums sold well. I finally went to see them a couple years ago and was disappointed because they wanted to play everything else besides their 80's 90's stuff. BRIGADE is a tremendous album too. The riff at the beginning of TALL DARK HANDSOME STRANGER at near full volume in your car, along with some 'air keyboards' is awesome.

KISS- I liked the hair band version of Kiss. CRAZY NIGHTS, HOT IN THE SHADE, and REVENGE, all very good. Some folks liked Animalize and Asylum, and Lick It Up but I don't have those. I hear those are good.

"Helix, House of Lords, Hurricane, Kidd Blue, Kik Tracee, King Kobra, , Kix, Krokus, LA Guns, Lillian Axe, Lion, The Loudness, Love-Hate, Lynch Mob"

wow. that's exactly what i mean. those are some serious hard core hair band fans bands. the ones that didn't score big with commercial songs but had a big following nonetheless. Perhaps they didn't have any BALLADS they sold to women.

Night Ranger- one of my all time favorites. Jack Blades is a genius. One of their records, NEVERLAND is one of the later ones that should be checked out. SIGN OF THE TIMES is also a good later one.

Poison- all excellent up until the Kotzen album, although STAND is a good tune. The song SO TELL ME WHY from the live/GH album is one of my faves. Some tracks on the CRACK A SMILE album with blues Saraceno are excellent as well.

Sammy Hagar- I have many Sammy CD's. Pre and post Van Halen. Some of his most very recent ones have a bit too much filler, but usually every one of his records has some really good upbeat tunes. TEN13, Red Voodoo, live Hallelujah, Not 4 Sale do have some good tunes. I think the Sammy style Van Halen was better.

Starship (I would kinda consider them a hair band)- Early 'Jefferson Starship' with songs like Find Your Way Back and Jane were awesome. the poppy 'Starship' with Grace Slick (how high had she have been to sing that mush?) were good too. NOTHING'S GONNA STOP US NOW is a tremendous sappy pop song.!

Steelheart- good tune.

Stryper- I liked their 'AGAINST THE LAW' album. that was the first album when they went 'bad'.

Tesla- one of the best. I saw them live and it was among the best concerts I've seen. their sound is great and what i like about them is they are just straight forward nuts busting rock. As long as their singer dude stays clean.......This band has never gotten anough credit.

Trixter (almost ashamed to say so)- and you should be.!

Van Halen- I like all of Van Halen but probably the Sammy stuff better. 5150 narrowly beats Unlawful Carnal Knowledge as my favorite sammy album. Balance was a far better album than it got credit for.

Winger- I really liked IN THE HEART OF THE YOUNG.

I have music by all the following hair bands (note: some aren't true hair bands, but they all kinda fit under that 80s metal sound so I'm putting them in)

Ace Frehley (his solo years in the late 80s), Antix, Anvil, Arcade, Bad English, Badlands, Bang Tango, Blue Murder, Bon Jovi, Bonfire, Bonham, Britny Fox, Bullet Boys, Cats in Boots, Cinderella, Damn Yankees, Danger Danger, Dare Force, David Lee Roth, Def Leppard, Dokken, Don Dokken, Europe, Every Mother's Nightmare, Extreme, Faster Pussycat, Firehouse, Giuffria, Great White, Guns N' Roses, Hanoi Rocks, Heart, Helix, House of Lords, Hurricane, Kidd Blue, Kik Tracee, King Kobra, KISS, Kix, Krokus, LA Guns, Lillian Axe, Lion, The Loudness, Love-Hate, Lynch Mob, Motley Crue, Mr. Big, Night Ranger, Poison, Quiet Riot, Ratt, Rox Diamond, Sammy Hagar, Scorpions, Slaughter, Skid Row, Smashed Gladys, Spectre General, Starship (I would kinda consider them a hair band), Steelheart, Stryper, Sweet Cheater, Surrender, Tesla, Trixter (almost ashamed to say so), Twisted Sister, Vain, Van Halen, Warlock, Warrant, Waysted, White Lion, Whitesnake, Wildside, Winger, XYZ, Y&T, and Zebra

...yes, I have a sh*tload of obscure music on my computer.

I just picked up Ratt's "Out of the Cellar" at the store the other day...I've been looking for it forever, even though I already have most of the songs off that album.  I'm a big Ratt fan and that album is a classic...probably one of my favorite albums of '84.  It's one of my desert island discs.  The great thing about Ratt was all the dual guitar action they had going on, and their solos always kicked ass...I'm thinking of "Scene of the Crime" right now.

I saw them a couple summers ago at an outdoor concert with Warrant, Dokken, LA Guns, Slaughter, and Tesla.  Ratt went on right before Dokken and completely blew them away.  Dokken was good back in the day when they had Lynch, but they've gone downhill since then.

Edited May 29, 2006 by regfootball

[regfootball]

It is... but I balance it out with Rush, so it's good.

MMMM, I like Rush.

I am a huge ASIA fan. Both versions. Have like 20 Asia CD's. Big news, the original members are reuniting for a tour and maybe a record. and NO, A FRAMED ASIA POSTER DOES NOT MAKE YOU GAY!

Hair band fans would like Asia ARIA, AQUA, ASTRA, SILENT NATION and maybe even ARENA. Of course, you all like ASIA and ALPHA.

Edited May 29, 2006 by regfootball

[regfootball]

Essential Metal

my good friend Scot Heinze runs this web site. He is an expert on Metal and hair band genres. I would encourage you to check out his 'best of' and Essential 70's, 80's and 90's links.

He is a bit more into the hardcore stuff than most fans I think though.

Edited May 29, 2006 by regfootball

[regfootball]

I love RICK SPRINGFIELD. If you like hair music, check out his album SHOCK/DENIAL/ANGER/ACCEPTaNCE. there are soundbytes on his site. His live greatest hits album is a must purchase 4 u.

Edited May 29, 2006 by regfootball

[Hudson]

I didn't think that Asia (I have four or five Asia albums) and Ted Nugent were "hair bands," but I can see that Heart had a "hair band" period (after their arena rock period and before their acoustic rock period).

I've got music (actual CDs or LPs) from:

Alcatrazz, Alias, Angel (pre-Giuffria Gregg Giuffria), Aerosmith, Bad Company (hair band period), Michael Bolton (his first album was "hair band"-ish), Bonham, Jodi Bongiovi (oddly enough, I don't own a single CD from your cousin Jon), Contraband, Joanna Dean, Deep Purple, Def Leppard (nearly everything), Dokken, Extreme, Femme Fatale, Giuffria, Gogmagog, Great White, Guns and Roses, Sammy Hagar, Hanoi Rocks, Helix, Honeymoon Suite, House of Lords, HSAS, Imeplliteri, Kingdom Come, Kiss, Kix, Kraaft, Krokus, Living Colour, Motley Crue, Mr. Big, Nelson, Night Ranger, Poison, Queensryche, Quiet Riot, Rainbow, Ratt, RTZ, Saraya, Skid Row, Billy Squier, Stryper, Tesla, Thunder, Tommi Gunn, Van Halen, Vandenberg, White Snake, and Zebra...and those are just the ones I remember off the top of my head.

Some of these are not technically "hair bands" but when Ted Nugent and Asia are mentioned above, I figured I could stretch the definition a little as well.

[regfootball]

I didn't think that Asia (I have four or five Asia albums) and Ted Nugent were "hair bands," but I can see that Heart had a "hair band" period (after their arena rock period and before their acoustic rock period).

I've got music (actual CDs or LPs) from:

Alcatrazz, Alias, Angel (pre-Giuffria Gregg Giuffria), Aerosmith, Bad Company (hair band period), Michael Bolton (his first album was "hair band"-ish), Bonham, Jodi Bongiovi (oddly enough, I don't own a single CD from your cousin Jon), Contraband, Joanna Dean, Deep Purple, Def Leppard (nearly everything), Dokken, Extreme, Femme Fatale, Giuffria, Gogmagog, Great White, Guns and Roses, Sammy Hagar, Hanoi Rocks, Helix, Honeymoon Suite, House of Lords, HSAS, Imeplliteri, Kingdom Come, Kiss, Kix, Kraaft, Krokus, Living Colour, Motley Crue, Mr. Big, Nelson, Night Ranger, Poison, Queensryche, Quiet Riot, Rainbow, Ratt, RTZ, Saraya, Skid Row, Billy Squier, Stryper, Tesla, Thunder, Tommi Gunn, Van Halen, Vandenberg, White Snake, and Zebra...and those are just the ones I remember off the top of my head.

Some of these are not technically "hair bands" but when Ted Nugent and Asia are mentioned above, I figured I could stretch the definition a little as well.

Asia ARIA is defintely hair band material.

Alias- i have that one. good album. Freddy Curci is the same guy who held the note for like 30 seconds in that song from Sheriff.

Bad Company- the hair band version of Bad Compnay is pretty good. HOLY WATER was a great album.

Michael Bolton (his first album was "hair band"-ish)- yup.....very

Bonham- Jason Bonham is part of the latest iteration of LOU GRAMMless Foreigner. Actually, the Lou Gramm albums are good and most of the 80's/90's Foreinger albums are better than folks give credit for. The Foreinger album with Johhny Edwards (Unusual Heat) is pretty good.

Honeymoon Suite- the song FEEL IT AGAIN is definite car candy. I picked up an import version from Canada of the best of Honeymoon Suite. LOVE CHANGES VERYTHING is a rockin tune too. I think they are still kickin.

Imeplliteri- they definitely have a following.

Nelson- I am ashamed to say I loved their debut album in a big way. CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT YOUR LOVE AND AFFECTION and AFTER THE RAIN are two of my favorite tunes ever.

RTZ- from the ashes of BOSTON. I love that song FACE THE MUSIC

Saraya- WOW! I have that album. It was underrated. Very rockin. Similar to SASS JORDAN. I know lots of folks would love SASS JORDAN.

When I was in college so many of my studiomates listened to so much MODERN ROCK. I like MODERN ROCK like REM and U2, but I got sick of some of them putting up those bands on a pedestal as better than the hair bands I liked. Take away REM and U2, which of those bands from MODERN ROCK are still concert draws like the hair bands are these days? The hair bands can pack folks in at the rock festivals and casinos and some fairs and stadiums.

Edited May 29, 2006 by regfootball

[regfootball]

not EXACTLY hair band.....but I am an ENORMOUS DONNAS FAN.

the first time I heard THE DONNAS, i obtained all their mp3's within days and subsequently all the CD's not long after.

the lyrics are hilarious on the earlier LP's up through SPEND THE NIGHT.

the last Donnas album was only average.

[regfootball]

ASIA - GO from ASTRA

GTR - WHEN THE HEART RULES THE MIND

Edited May 29, 2006 by regfootball

[mustang84]

Europe was better on their first two albums before they went commercial with The Final Countdown. There are some killer songs on "Wings of Tomorrow" such as the part 2 1/2 minutes into Lyin' Eyes when the guitarist just goes nuts. However, later songs like "Rock the Night" are really, really bad...the video is even worse.

Danger Danger would've been as big as Def Leppard if they had released their debut a few years earlier...they came at a bad time in the music biz.

I know a lot of people don't like Dokken, but I've always been a big fan of them. I have the first four studio albums, Beast from the East, and their rare tracks from a '79 demo. I also have "Hell to Pay" which is a pretty disappointing album. The problem with Dokken today is Don's attitude...he's still bitching about how grunge took over, yet it's 2006...time to get over it and move on. John Levin is a decent guitarist, but the Dokken of today is lame compared to the one of old.

I agree with you on Ratt N' Roll...one of the best greatest hits.

Great White is a great band too, but sadly the main reason most probably know of them today is from the club fire in Rhode Island a couple years ago. They took blues rock and fused it with metal to create a sound unlike most other bands of the time. Their first album is highly-underrated raw rock n' roll.

Tesla is in the same vein as Great White in that they were more straight ahead rock rather than glam. Tesla is honest blue collar rock. Part of the reason Tesla still did well into the grunge years was because they avoided the glammed up route that most bands of the time took. My favorite album is the Great Radio Controversey...there are so many excellent songs on there.

Stryper is a little too God-happy for me (I only have a couple of their songs), but the song To Hell with the Devil is a good one.

WINGER KICKS ASS. I know it's not really cool to like Winger, but I don't care...all three of their albums are top notch pop metal. From power ballads to straight ahead rockers, they have it all. Headed for a Heartbreak is one of the best songs they ever wrote IMHO.

When I saw RATT, it was with Jizzy Pearl (he did a good job too, BTW). Ratt is one of my favorite bands because I never get tired of their songs. Most of them have semi-cheesy lyrics, but Warren DeMartini and Robin Crosby (RIP) are amazing guitarists.

[regfootball]

do you have WINGER - Pull? I have it but have never really acquainted myself to it.

three albums you might like.....

ANDY TAYLOR solo album

KANE ROBERTS - self titled and SAINTS AND SINNERS

perhaps one of the best AOR albums ever, just at the end of the hair band craze, MITCH MALLOY self titled debut. It was produced by a guy who also produced some Ratt records. It is hard rock but not like Motley Crue, its a bit softer but still in the hair band vein. One example of how there IS a smidgen of talent to come from NORTH DAKOTA.

I would highly encourage you to find ANYTHING AT ALL and STRANDED IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE by Mitch. If those won't blow your car speakers, nothing will. Too bad he's more into country now. He actually auditioned for Van Halen at one point before the whole GARY CHERONE debacle.

Edited May 29, 2006 by regfootball

[mustang84]

Never heard of Mitch Malloy before, but I'll see if there are any of his CDs used at Hastings the next time I'm there.

I have Winger, In the Heart of the Young, and Pull. Many say Pull is their best album, but I still think it's the debut, although Pull is really good. One of the things I've noticed about most 80s bands is that their 90s albums tend to suck really bad, but 'Pull' sounds exactly like old Winger...they still keep the big sound.

I listened to some Asia sample clips and didn't realize they were the ones who did the song "Heat of the Moment." For some reason, I always thought Asia was new wave or something...but they aren't too bad! I may have to look into them a little more too.

I used to listen to modern rock when I was in 8th grade/early high school years (Staind, Korn, Papa Roach, etc) but kinda grew out of it when I discovered Motley Crue and Metallica. I remember a time when I used to think 80s rock was weird, but now it's my favorite genre.

There's something about rock before about 1994/1995 that I just like better than what's being put out today. Even the early grunge stuff was pretty decent...I like stuff from Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, and Stone Temple Pilots. But everything new that has come out seems to lack attitude...the rock n' roll rebelliousness of the past is gone. The guitar is pretty much extinct. Then there's bands with the damn growling vocals. A few of the post-'95 rock bands that I respect are Incubus, Collective Soul, The Deftones, Godsmack, Filter, and Fuel...much of the rest is derivitive.

[04monteintimidator]

soundgarden an STP were not grunge... pearl jam kinda was... but no so much as nirvana... which i hate... nirvana is the worst...

hair metal is good... but anyone into the darker side of metal? ya know... the bands that took the Black Sabbath route as opposed to the Led Zeppelin approach?

Motorhead is probably my favorite band of all time... they still sound the same 31 years later... and its just straight ahead balls out metal

Judas Priest... AMAZING. end of story

Iron Maiden... not quite Priest... but still great

early Metallica... anything up to and including the Black Album... before they changed their sound

[mustang84]

soundgarden an STP were not grunge... pearl jam kinda was... but no so much as nirvana... which i hate... nirvana is the worst...

hair metal is good... but anyone into the darker side of metal? ya know... the bands that took the Black Sabbath route as opposed to the Led Zeppelin approach?

Motorhead is probably my favorite band of all time... they still sound the same 31 years later... and its just straight ahead balls out metal

Judas Priest... AMAZING. end of story

Iron Maiden... not quite Priest... but still great

early Metallica... anything up to and including the Black Album... before they changed their sound

Yep, I don't stop with hair metal. Metallica, Megadeth, Metal Church, Warrant (the German one), Judas Priest, Ozzy, Iron Maiden, Dio, Warlock, Queensryche, Sanctuary, Savatage, Flotsam & Jetsam, Armored Saint, Accept, Saxon, Testament, Anthrax, Helloween, and Pantera are my heavier guys that I also listen to. I've never really gotten into black metal and all that...Testament is about the heaviest I go...I'm just not a fan of all the morbid lyrics.

[04monteintimidator]

no motorhead? if you like metallica, flotsam & jetsam, pantera and especially anthrax... youd love motorhead... they're pretty much the original trash band

[Hudson]

Alias- i have that one.  good album.  Freddy Curci is the same guy who held the note for like 30 seconds in that song from Sheriff.

I've got the Sheriff album as well.

Bad Company- the hair band version of Bad Compnay is pretty good.  HOLY WATER was a great album.

That's the one I have.

Michael Bolton (his first album was "hair band"-ish)- yup.....very

I had to get it for "Fool's Game."

Bonham- Jason Bonham is part of the latest iteration of LOU GRAMMless Foreigner.  Actually, the Lou Gramm albums are good and most of the 80's/90's Foreinger albums are better than folks give credit for.  The Foreinger album with Johhny Edwards (Unusual Heat) is pretty good.

There are certain bands that NEED certain people (even though they've tried). You can't have Judas Priest without Rob Halford. You can't have Extreme without Nuno. You can't have Iron Maiden without Bruce Dickenson (even though he wasn't their first singer). And you can't have Foreigner without Lou Gramm.

I have "Unusual Heat" and it's not bad...but it's not "Head Games" or "Inside Information" or even "Agent Provacateur." And even Lou Gramm's "Ready or Not" isn't bad...but still not quite a Foreigner album.

Honeymoon Suite- the song FEEL IT AGAIN is definite car candy.  I picked up an import version from Canada of the best of Honeymoon Suite.  LOVE CHANGES VERYTHING is a rockin tune too.  I think they are still kickin.

Find one of their complete albums: "Racing After Midnight" or "The Big Prize" (even better) or their self-titled debut...all good.

RTZ- from the ashes of BOSTON.  I love that song FACE THE MUSIC

How about Orion the Hunter? I actually prefer Orion the Hunter to RTZ.

Saraya-  WOW!  I have that album.  It was underrated.  Very rockin.

I have their first TWO albums...both excellent and very underrated.

[regfootball]

Never heard of Mitch Malloy before, but I'll see if there are any of his CDs used at Hastings the next time I'm there.

only his debut and Shine are rocking enough. avoid Ceilings and Walls.

[regfootball]

my buddy Scot I think Motorhead is like his favorite band. metal heads all seem to like Motorhead.

soundgarden an STP were not grunge... pearl jam kinda was... but no so much as nirvana... which i hate... nirvana is the worst...

hair metal is good... but anyone into the darker side of metal? ya know... the bands that took the Black Sabbath route as opposed to the Led Zeppelin approach?

Motorhead is probably my favorite band of all time... they still sound the same 31 years later... and its just straight ahead balls out metal

Judas Priest... AMAZING. end of story

Iron Maiden... not quite Priest... but still great

early Metallica... anything up to and including the Black Album... before they changed their sound

[regfootball]

Yep, I don't stop with hair metal.  Metallica, Megadeth, Metal Church, Warrant (the German one), Judas Priest, Ozzy, Iron Maiden, Dio, Warlock, Queensryche, Sanctuary, Savatage, Flotsam & Jetsam, Armored Saint, Accept, Saxon, Testament, Anthrax, Helloween, and Pantera are my heavier guys that I also listen to.  I've never really gotten into black metal and all that...Testament is about the heaviest I go...I'm just not a fan of all the morbid lyrics.

dang...you really do need to check out that essential metal dot com site....all the bands you mention, right up that alley.

I must be more into the chick / style hair / metal bands. I haven't ever listened much to Armored Saint or Testament for example. Or even Iron Maiden or Judas Priest. But I think think all those groups are immensely popular and talented.

Maybe I need to branch out and sample some of that. I'm just such a sucker for the '3 minute pop song'....the ear candy.

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[regfootball]

I've got the Sheriff album as well.

That's the one I have.

I had to get it for "Fool's Game."

There are certain bands that NEED certain people (even though they've tried). You can't have Judas Priest without Rob Halford. You can't have Extreme without Nuno. You can't have Iron Maiden without Bruce Dickenson (even though he wasn't their first singer). And you can't have Foreigner without Lou Gramm.

I have "Unusual Heat" and it's not bad...but it's not "Head Games" or "Inside Information" or even "Agent Provacateur." And even Lou Gramm's "Ready or Not" isn't bad...but still not quite a Foreigner album.

Find one of their complete albums: "Racing After Midnight" or "The Big Prize" (even better) or their self-titled debut...all good.

How about Orion the Hunter? I actually prefer Orion the Hunter to RTZ.

I have their first TWO albums...both excellent and very underrated.

I think you'd dig the SASS JORDAN records. Not as glam as Saraya, more bluesy but in each case, strong female singers.

I would love to see that Suzie McNeil from last years ROCKSTAR INXS make a hard core rock album, even if leaning to a hair band tinge. She had a great hard rock voice.

You ever listen to BOSTON - WALK ON? Brad Delpless....I really like that album. Its probably the most hair bandy of the Boston records.

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[Hudson]

I think you'd dig the SASS JORDAN records.  Not as glam as Saraya, more bluesy but in each case, strong female singers.

I vaguely remember when Sass Jordan had a hit song in the early 1990s..can't name it though.

You ever listen to BOSTON - WALK ON?  Brad Delpless....I really like that album.  Its probably the most hair bandy of the Boston records.

I have "Walk On" as well as "Don't Look Back" and "Third Stage" (oddly enough, I never bought "Boston"). "Walk On" did nothing for me...and while "Third Stage" was good, "Don't Look Back" is still my favorite.

[mustang84]

dang...you really do need to check out that essential metal dot com site....all the bands you mention, right up that alley.

I must be more into the chick / style hair / metal bands.  I haven't ever listened much to Armored Saint or Testament for example.  Or even Iron Maiden or Judas Priest.  But I think think all those groups are immensely popular and talented. 

Maybe I need to branch out and sample some of that.  I'm just such a sucker for the '3 minute pop song'....the ear candy.

It all depends on my mood...sometimes I'm in the mood for lighter stuff, and sometimes I'm in the mood for heavy metal. Thrash/speed metal tends to make me work very fast when I'm in studio doing frantic last minute work, but sometimes when you're just in a carefree happy mood, you need the poppier stuff. I'd say I'm a bigger fan of hair metal though.

Third Stage by Boston is a great disc. My dad has it, but I haven't been able to find it for about a year. Very futuristic-sounding...it's very fitting of the times.

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mustang I ironically have an extra copy of one of the boston albums, i will check and see which one it is....it might be third stage (a lost one in the car didnt find it till i got another one incident). its either third stage or walk on. i will let you know.

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[mustang84]

no motorhead? if you like metallica, flotsam & jetsam, pantera and especially anthrax... youd love motorhead... they're pretty much the original trash band

I missed your comment the other day...but I've never really gotten into Motorhead. I only have three of their songs so I don't really have a wide spectrum of their music, but I've just never really been a fan of Blackie's voice (I think that's his name?). I dunno...maybe I'll have to give them more of a try sometime.

[04monteintimidator]

I missed your comment the other day...but I've never really gotten into Motorhead.  I only have three of their songs so I don't really have a wide spectrum of their music, but I've just never really been a fan of Blackie's voice (I think that's his name?).  I dunno...maybe I'll have to give them more of a try sometime.

Lemmy... lol

but yeah if yur willing to check them out... ace of spades is a great album... as is 1916... or overkill... or inferno which is their most recent... all their albums are great but those 4 are just... wow