Cadillac News: Cadillac Dangles $5,000 to Lincoln Owners to Get Into An Escalade

[Drew Dowdell]

Just now, A Horse With No Name said:

I think the diesel Colorado is rated for over 10,000 pounds...

7,700

[ccap41]

Ram 1500's that are 4X4 with the 3.6. 3.21 gears are only rated to tow 4650 with the quad cab. 

F150 with the base 3.3,, 4x4, 3.55 gears, and largest cab is only rated at 5000lbs. 

The lowest number I could configure the Silverado down to was 6000lbs

All of which are probably difficult to find on a lot because I'd assume a work level truck has the trailer tow package that won't have the granny tall gears that drastically drops all of these down to the levels I looked up. 

2 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

I think the diesel Colorado is rated for over 10,000 pounds...

Nope. I'm pretty sure 7600 or 7700lbs. The non-diesel I think is 7000lbs. 

[Robert Hall]

Supposedly my Jeep is rated at 6200lbs for the V6.   Though I doubt I'll ever tow anything...

[smk4565]

I am pretty sure an 80s Ford LTD could tow over 12,000 lbs as proven by their marketing materials of a parked car hooked to a trailer with a 40 foot boat.

[G. David Felt]

5 hours ago, ccap41 said:

LOL a boat that big causing that much sag.. definition of more money than brains. 

True, but of course they could have properly leveled it out by adding 3rd party airbags to help with the load.

2 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

It's more than any V6 gasoline crossover today and only 400lbs less than a V8 Durango or Grand Cherokee.  

Have to scan it in but my sister and her exhusband used to drive a fully loaded Buick Roadmaster Station wagon pulling a large boat. Another of GM's awesome rides that could handle the same load as that cadillac car.

[Drew Dowdell]

4 hours ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

Supposedly my Jeep is rated at 6200lbs for the V6.   Though I doubt I'll ever tow anything...

The Pentastar would be screaming trying to pull that up a hill

[ccap41]

15 hours ago, dfelt said:

True, but of course they could have properly leveled it out by adding 3rd party airbags to help with the load.

Yup, but more money than brains to figure that out... 

[lengnert]

I do like the exterior styling of the Escalade in this current generation. I was not really enamored with it before. The interior isn't bad either, in fact I would rather it above average.

There are things about the new Navigator I have really been impressed with from an exterior perspective and some others I want to see in person before passing final judgement. The interior is the best thing I have seen in a large SUV. Period.

When any competitor names their rival by name and backs it up with paying money to limit sales loss it is a huge compliment to that product. 

So, I would assume the Navigator is all that and the proverbial bad of chips!

Edited November 15, 2017 by lengnert

[Drew Dowdell]

On 11/14/2017 at 11:58 AM, dfelt said:

Towing with Escalades is very common, I see the following all the time around washington state.

We used to trailer with our cars:

 

Now in modern day, we trailer with our Escalades:

 

Even though I think sometimes too much boat is pulled with them.

That Escalade is way overloaded. It can tow, but that is too much tongue weight. 

[KevinW]

On 11/14/2017 at 5:44 PM, dfelt said:

Have to scan it in but my sister and her exhusband used to drive a fully loaded Buick Roadmaster Station wagon pulling a large boat. Another of GM's awesome rides that could handle the same load as that cadillac car.

The 7000 lb V4P package was unique to the Fleetwood.  The V92 B-cars were rated at 5000 lbs.
 

[balthazar]

6 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

That Escalade is way overloaded. It can tow, but that is too much tongue weight. 

Right- we're maybe just seeing the leading edge of windshield of that boat; who knows how much farther rearward the trailer wheels are.

[A Horse With No Name]

9 hours ago, lengnert said:

I do like the exterior styling of the Escalade in this current generation. I was not really enamored with it before. The interior isn't bad either, in fact I would rather it above average.

There are things about the new Navigator I have really been impressed with from an exterior perspective and some others I want to see in person before passing final judgement. The interior is the best thing I have seen in a large SUV. Period.

When any competitor names their rival by name and backs it up with paying money to limit sales loss it is a huge compliment to that product. 

So, I would assume the Navigator is all that and the proverbial bad of chips!

Even a non Ford guy like me is impressed...

On 11/14/2017 at 3:54 PM, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

Supposedly my Jeep is rated at 6200lbs for the V6.   Though I doubt I'll ever tow anything...

It would be fun to tow a camper behind that.

[G. David Felt]

1 hour ago, KevinW said:

The 7000 lb V4P package was unique to the Fleetwood.  The V92 B-cars were rated at 5000 lbs.
 

It is amazing the amount of towing capabilities we put on cars compared to the CUV / SUVs of today.

[balthazar]

BOF vehicles are much better suited, in general, for towing vs. unibodies.

[lengnert]

15 hours ago, A Horse With No Name said:

Even a non Ford guy like me is impressed...

It would be fun to tow a camper behind that.

I have to ask..... i sense there is some antipathy towards the modern Fords ( LOL).... it would make me think there may have been a clunker or two Blue Ovals in your past?  Either that or a Transit van up and insulted your Mom or something....?

What gives, AHWNN?   

 

 

Edited November 16, 2017 by lengnert

[A Horse With No Name]

10 minutes ago, lengnert said:

I have to ask..... i sense there is some antipathy towards the modern Fords ( LOL).... it would make me think there may have been a clunker or two Blue Ovals in your past?  Either that or a Transit van up and insulted your Mom or something....?

What gives, AHWNN?   

 

 

Damned if I know...I love the vintage blue oval stuff.  I just try to be honest with myself and deal with what I feel.

We have had several Fords lately as rentals and they have performed flawlessly.

Edited November 16, 2017 by A Horse With No Name
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[lengnert]

Just now, A Horse With No Name said:

Damned if I know...I love the vintage blue oval stuff.  I just try to be honest with myself and deal with what I feel.

We have had several Fords lately as rentals and they ahve performed flawlessly.

Haha, yeah sometimes it is just a 'thing' we have for a product or brand.  It took me a long time (decades) to get over my anti GM bias. I still do not favor a GM over a Ford model, but I can appreciate the vehicles they make now.   

Except for Camaros! They will always be crap!  (At least in comparison to the almighty Mustang)..….... hahahahahaha

[A Horse With No Name]

45 minutes ago, lengnert said:

Haha, yeah sometimes it is just a 'thing' we have for a product or brand.  It took me a long time (decades) to get over my anti GM bias. I still do not favor a GM over a Ford model, but I can appreciate the vehicles they make now.   

Except for Camaros! They will always be crap!  (At least in comparison to the almighty Mustang)..….... hahahahahaha

My favorite car was a 66 Mustang fastback 289 4 speed, Wimbledon white, not a spot of rust on her.

I would give my eye teeth for a 68 Mustang California Special...or a 69 Fastback...or a 70 Boss 302. Calypso Coral or Grabber Green on the 70 Boss 302...gold was a signature color in 69 for the Mustang. make that one a GT (last year for the early year GT cars, and fairly rare) with gold paint and a black interior.

Modern cars...of all of the cars on the planet the only two that actually excite me as modern cars to own are the GTI/Golf R and WRX/STI.  Everything else leaves me pretty cold as an ownership proposition.

In terms of fandom, I really like Audi and Porsche...but I am a blue collar guy so I would look silly driving either of them.

Only GM car I could see myself pulling the actual trigger on is the Bolt...only car I could see buying from Ford would be the Focus ST.

Only chryco product I could see spending my own money on is the Renegade with a Trailhawk package.

....hate to say it but I think given the choice of Camaro, Mustang or Challenger I would take the Challenger.  At least today...ask me tomorrow and my answer would change.

[Drew Dowdell]

I know there will be a new Escalade coming soon, but realistically, they could give the current one an exterior visual refresh and a substantial interior refresh and keep it on the market a while longer. The powertrain is still more than competitive, especially now with the 10-speed. 

[G. David Felt]

2 hours ago, lengnert said:

I have to ask..... i sense there is some antipathy towards the modern Fords ( LOL).... it would make me think there may have been a clunker or two Blue Ovals in your past?  Either that or a Transit van up and insulted your Mom or something....?

What gives, AHWNN?   

 

 

I have only had two fords in my life, 1969 Camper Special that I inherited and loved till the day I sold it as my career took off and I had to relocate to california and was not going to take the truck and camper and my 1991 Ford Escort GT  that I bought new. Loved that Mazda Built Pocket Rocket. Was great till the Wife got rearended in it and it was totaled. But other than her neck injury, she was over all safe and uninjured. Since then every time I have tried to buy a ford, the sales people and poor quality have pushed me away.

5 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

I know there will be a new Escalade coming soon, but realistically, they could give the current one an exterior visual refresh and a substantial interior refresh and keep it on the market a while longer. The powertrain is still more than competitive, especially now with the 10-speed. 

I would totally do this and focus on releasing an AWD Escalade EV that could put a line in the sand much with how Chevy did with the Bolt!

[A Horse With No Name]

Yes, i know you have had Fords in a previous life...we will still respect you in the morning.