Lack of Information Has Model 3 Reservation Holders Anxious

[William Maley]

Hundred of thousands of people plopped down $1,000 to reserve a Tesla Model 3 last year. At the time, buyers were told not to expect their Model 3 until the end of 2018. Since then, buyers haven't been told a thing. When will their vehicle arrive? What options will be available? What will be the final price? None of these questions have been answers and some now are looking for answers.

Bloomberg spoke with some people that dropped $1,000 deposit to get on the Model 3 reservation list. All of the people in the story want more information and hope they get some answers this Friday as Tesla will be holding an event to hand over the Model 3s to the first 30 customers.

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The lack of information received from Tesla “makes me 100 percent more nervous,” said Patrick Herrity, a 34-year-old business consultant in Virginia who made his Model 3 reservation online. He said he understands the company is being secretive to ward off competitors but hopes this week’s event will shed more light on his next ride.

What Herrity wants is a fully-loaded Model 3 with all-wheel drive and a sunroof -- options that won’t be available in the first cars to roll off the assembly line in Fremont, California. Musk has said the Model 3 will initially be built with the simplest design, unlike the feature-heavy Model X sport utility, which was plagued by early production problems.

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One key bit of information many buyers would like to know is where they fall on the reservation list. The U.S. begins to phase out $7,500 federal tax credit for electric vehicles once an automaker has sold 200,000 vehicles. Tesla is hoping to produce 20,000 Model 3s by the end of the year. If this holds, Bloomberg projects that Tesla will cross this threshold sometime next year, leaving some buyers with a more expensive proposition. 

Source: Bloomberg
Pic Credit: Elon Musk via Twitter

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[oldshurst442]

And-a now....amma gonna predict the next couple-a posts from a certain Cheers and Gears populace with this symbolic image...

 

I have a flair for dramatic posts....

Im proud immensely.

Im giving myself a pat on the back since I cant upvote myself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[cp-the-nerd]

This is the same consumer base that was confused by the fact that this was not the replacement for the Model S despite an abundance of information not saying anything of the sort.

[G. David Felt]

At one point I remember them showing 340,000 reservations and now maybe 40,000 will get the $7,500 write off from the GOV.

200,000 Canceled Reservations! 50,000 reduced feature buys and 50,000 hard core loyalist that will wait till they can buy fully loaded AWD Tesla 3.

@oldshurst442 Did I disappoint ya Olds?

I expect @ocnblu to pop in and say SEE, I TOLD YA SO, No one Wants EV's.

I expect @A Horse With No Name to make some witty post.

I expect @smk4565 to post his usual of they need more CUV's than cars.

I expect @surreal1272 to post about supply and demand and other interesting tidbits about the Musk controlled world.

The list could go on and on and on as to what I expect and might not even get!  

And with that I leave you with how Tesla Leaves me!

 

[A Horse With No Name]

I actually expect Tesla to implode and mismanage itself before it passes 120,000 cars a year.

Dead man walking...

[surreal1272]

2 hours ago, dfelt said:

At one point I remember them showing 340,000 reservations and now maybe 40,000 will get the $7,500 write off from the GOV.

200,000 Canceled Reservations! 50,000 reduced feature buys and 50,000 hard core loyalist that will wait till they can buy fully loaded AWD Tesla 3.

@oldshurst442 Did I disappoint ya Olds?

I expect @ocnblu to pop in and say SEE, I TOLD YA SO, No one Wants EV's.

I expect @A Horse With No Name to make some witty post.

I expect @smk4565 to post his usual of they need more CUV's than cars.

I expect @surreal1272 to post about supply and demand and other interesting tidbits about the Musk controlled world.

The list could go on and on and on as to what I expect and might not even get!  

And with that I leave you with how Tesla Leaves me!

 

Honestly I have nothing other than Musk needs to get his $h! together fast. 

[Robert Hall]

Musk is busy working 160 hrs a week running 4 companies....

[balthazar]

The O/P is exactly what I've said on this board, back when the 400K pre-orders were topical discussion.

That there is a very real & tangible gap between what people are envisioning in the void of information, and the hard reality that is going to show up when deliveries start : very few options, no power upgrades, higher pricing, lesser rebates, and the delay in filling orders.

Time will tell.

[smk4565]

Tesla needs to learn how to mass produce cars and they need to learn fast.  They have good ideas, the solar panel roof, power wall and all the live off renewable energy stuff sounds great in theory.  But they have to deliver the goods.

If they can't get their production up to scale, then the Germans will wipe them out.  And if Toyota gets into EV's in scale look out because they know how to manufacture.

[riviera74]

2 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

Tesla needs to learn how to mass produce cars and they need to learn fast.  They have good ideas, the solar panel roof, power wall and all the live off renewable energy stuff sounds great in theory.  But they have to deliver the goods.

If they can't get their production up to scale, then the Germans will wipe them out.  And if Toyota gets into EV's in scale look out because they know how to manufacture.

No, Elon Musk needs to sell Tesla to an existing auto concern because Tesla is not delivering anywhere near what he promised.

[cp-the-nerd]

I have respect for the genius of Elon Musk, but when you take away the smoke and mirrors of hype and green subsidies, the brand is not doing well. The cars aren't reliable, they can't get out of their own way to release new models, and the old models are barely warmed over with minor refreshes and updated battery packs.

[A Horse With No Name]

7 hours ago, cp-the-nerd said:

I have respect for the genius of Elon Musk, but when you take away the smoke and mirrors of hype and green subsidies, the brand is not doing well. The cars aren't reliable, they can't get out of their own way to release new models, and the old models are barely warmed over with minor refreshes and updated battery packs.

I will certainly never own one.

[oldshurst442]

Not all is doom and gloom.

While many are itchy and disappoint...

And may cancel

 

Some of these orders, the peeps with the anxieties, said they may upgrade to Model S or Model X...

 

http://www.motortrend.com/news/report-tesla-model-s-75-rwd-discontinued/

 

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In addition to the discontinuation of the Model S 75 RWD, a report from Bloomberg states that customers who put down $1,000 deposits to reserve a Model 3 are getting impatient due to the long wait and lack of information from Tesla. The report continues by stating that some customers that did put down a deposit are considering canceling and looking into a Model S or Model X instead.

 

 

 

 

 

Oh...the Model S 75 RWD is no more to distance it from the Model 3!!!

[Robert Hall]

My buddy in AZ with the Volt thought about it, but at the time Tesla wasn't taking orders from Arizona (not sure why).   He is buying a Bolt instead to replace the family hauler (a well-worn '01 Focus wagon). 

[oldshurst442]

7 minutes ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

My buddy in AZ with the Volt thought about it, but at the time Tesla wasn't taking orders from Arizona (not sure why).   He is buying a Bolt instead to replace the family hauler (a well-worn '01 Focus wagon). 

Well....he does not have to wait for it. So yeah...good on him!!!

And I guess he was satisfied with the Volt that the Bolt makes even more sense!!!

Speaking of satisfaction...

16 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

I will certainly never own one.

 

You get the phoqued up version of the song JUST because of your poo-poo attitude for Tesla!!!

 

 

Edited July 26, 2017 by oldshurst442

[surreal1272]

17 hours ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

Musk is busy working 160 hrs a week running 4 companies....

Maybe he needs to scale it down to two companies and 80 hours. 

[Robert Hall]

7 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

Maybe he needs to scale it down to two companies and 80 hours. 

Or maybe his next company will be a human cloning company or cyborg company so he can make a few replicants of himself to spread the work out..

[A Horse With No Name]

2 hours ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

My buddy in AZ with the Volt thought about it, but at the time Tesla wasn't taking orders from Arizona (not sure why).   He is buying a Bolt instead to replace the family hauler (a well-worn '01 Focus wagon). 

Fantastic

[G. David Felt]

1 hour ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

Or maybe his next company will be a human cloning company or cyborg company so he can make a few replicants of himself to spread the work out..

Maybe he is already doing that, after all we cloned Dolly!  

2 hours ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

My buddy in AZ with the Volt thought about it, but at the time Tesla wasn't taking orders from Arizona (not sure why).   He is buying a Bolt instead to replace the family hauler (a well-worn '01 Focus wagon). 

Far better auto than the Tesla 3! 

[A Horse With No Name]

17 minutes ago, dfelt said:

Maybe he is already doing that, after all we cloned Dolly!  

 

Your sheep is of buying the Honda Accord coupe in the other thread....

[smk4565]

The Model 3 is $35,000 base before tax credits.  220 mile range, 0-60 in 5.6 seconds.  Elon delivered.  The Bolt is done, it doesn't look good, it is slower with similar range, it costs more, and it is Chevy while the other one is a Tesla, possibly the desired brand in cars, and maybe even outside of cars.

[Robert Hall]

It will be interesting to see if any Model 3s actually sell for $35k...the article I saw indicated the typical price with options will be more like $45k.  And the 30 'delivered' yesterday were sold to Tesla employees, so not really out in the market yet with real people. 

Edited July 29, 2017 by Cubical-aka-Moltar

[smk4565]

2 hours ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

It will be interesting to see if any Model 3s actually sell for $35k...the article I saw indicated the typical price with options will be more like $45k.  And the 30 'delivered' yesterday were sold to Tesla employees, so not really out in the market yet with real people. 

I think $45k will be common because the luxury package is $5k, and Auto pilot is $5k.  So that puts it at $45k which still seems like a good deal.   A Bolt Premier with the driver package and infotainment package is about $43k and it is a smaller, slower car and doesn't have Super Cruise.

 If you don't care about autonomous driving though, you can get the luxury package and the bigger battery, have a car that goes 310 miles and does 0-60 in 5.1 seconds for $49k.   That is a heck of a deal and without the tax credit.   

[Robert Hall]

I'm curious how the production interior actually looks..the only pics I've seen so far, it looks very minimalist.