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Honda has announced pricing for the maddest Civic to date. The 2017 Civic Type R will set you back $34,775 (includes $875.00 destination charge). This confirms the price we saw on a window sticker last month .

Honda will only be selling the Type R in the high-spec Touring trim. This will net you LED lighting, 12-speaker audio system, 7-inch touchscreen with HondaLink, navigation, keyless entry, and push-button start. A turbocharged 2.0L four-cylinder produces 306 horsepower and 295 pound-feet of torque. This comes paired solely with a six-speed manual. Other performance tweaks for the Type R includes an aero package, revised suspension with adaptive dampers, Brembo brakes, and high-performance tires.

The Type R is now available at Honda dealers.

Source: Honda 
Press Release is on Page 2


First-Ever Civic Type R for America Goes On Sale Tomorrow
Jun 13, 2017 - TORRANCE, Calif.

  • 306-horsepower Civic Type R is most powerful production Honda ever sold in the U.S.
  • World's fastest production front-wheel-drive car at the Nürburgring
  • Civic Type R capstones Honda's epic 10th generation Civic lineup

The all-new 2017 Honda Civic Type R – the ultimate performance variant of America's best-selling car1 and the first-ever Type R-badged Honda sold in the U.S. – goes on sale starting tomorrow in one comprehensively-equipped Touring trim with a Manufacturer's Suggested Retail Price (MSRP)2 of $33,900.

The most powerful production Honda ever sold in America, the track-ready 2017 Civic Type R embodies Honda's racing spirit, making 306 horsepower (SAE net) at 6,500 rpm and 295 lb.-ft. of torque (SAE net) from 2,500-4500 rpm from its 2.0-liter DOHC direct-injected and turbocharged i-VTEC® engine. A pre-production version of the new Type R claimed the title of world's fastest production front-wheel-drive (FWD) car on April 7, 2017, setting a record lap time of 7 minutes 43.80 seconds on Germany's legendary Nürburgring Nordschleife (North Loop), more than three seconds faster than the previous FWD best.

The Type R puts the power down through a short-throw 6-speed manual transmission with helical limited slip differential hooked up to 245/30ZR20 Continental SportContact 6 high-performance tires on 20x8.5-inch black-finished aluminum wheels. Speed is scrubbed by 13.8-inch cross-drilled rotors clamped by 4-piston Brembo aluminum calipers in front and 12.0-inch rotors with single-piston calipers in the rear.

The Type R chassis features a dual-axis strut front suspension and multi-link rear, front and rear anti-roll bars, Type-R exclusive springs, bushings and damper mountings and a newly designed Adaptive Damper System with the ability to continuously adjust damping force at all four corners using input from three on-board G sensors, four suspension stroke sensors and a steering angle sensor.

The Adaptive Damper System, along with the dual-pinion variable-ratio electric power steering, drive-by-wire throttle, and brake system, are tied to the Type R's three selectable driving modes, with COMFORT, SPORT and +R settings, allowing the driver to dial up the Type R's reflexes depending on the driving environment. The throttle ECU also features driver-selectable automatic rev matching with two profiles, one for COMFORT and SPORT modes and one for +R mode, to assist drivers in making smooth downshifts without the need for heel & toe downshifting.

Additional performance-enhancing Type-R exclusive features include a weight-saving all-aluminum hood (-11.7 lbs.) and the application of structural adhesives to the body for added structural rigidity, as well as a high-flow exhaust system with three center-mounted exhaust outlets, and a comprehensive aerodynamic package that delivers an exceptional balance of high-speed stability and low drag.

2017 Civic Type R Pricing and EPA Fuel Economy Ratings

Trim

MSRP1

EPA MPG Rating3(city/highway/combined)

Civic Type R

$33,900

22/28/25

Key Exterior and Interior Features

The all-new 2017 Civic Type R offers a sporty and stylish exterior with advanced aerodynamics that immediately distinguishes the hatchback at a glance, while also providing a performance-focused interior with comfort, convenience and the latest in technology and connectivity features.

Exterior

Advanced Compatibility Engineering (ACE) body structure with crash stroke front frame design

Acoustic windshield

Unibody structural adhesive at key points

Triple door sealing

Security System with Remote Entry and Trunk Release

Advanced Noise, Vibration and Harshness (NVH) countermeasures

LED daytime running lights (DRL)

LED headlights with auto on/off

LED fog lights, turn signals, taillights, brake lights

2-speed intermittent windshield wipers

Smart wipers

Body-colored power side mirrors

Body-colored door handles

Capless fueling system

Aerodynamics package with front splitter, side winglets, air-stabilizing vents, large rear wing, and roof-mounted vortex generators

Interior

97.0 cubic feet of cabin space

Class-leading 22.6-cubic foot cargo area with rear seats up

60/40 split and folding rear seat

Soft-touch, one-piece instrument panel upper

7-inch Display Audio touchscreen with integrated HVAC controls

7-inch Driver Information Interface (DII) with selectable performance content

Apple CarPlay™ and Android Auto™ compatibility

540-watt, 12-speaker stereo

Honda Satellite-Linked Navigation System™

Driver Information Interface with performance-oriented information displays

Smart Entry and Push Button Start

Hill Start Assist

Walk Away Door Locking

Electric Parking Brake

In-Vehicle Connectivity

Like the rest of the Civic family, the new Civic Type R significantly benefits from advanced in-vehicle connectivity and audio performance with a new generation of cutting-edge technologies. Type R standard features include a 7-inch capacitive touchscreen Display Audio interface with Android operating system, with a unique red graphic theme. Matching the aggressive spirit of the Type R is a standard 540-watt 12-speaker audio system. The system enables simplified smartphone connectivity with a single cable connection and is compatible with the Apple CarPlay™ and Android Auto™ platforms. Featuring standard Pandora® compatibility, streaming Bluetooth® audio and many other content choices, including SiriusXM®, the Civic Type R offers a rich selection of audio and connectivity choices. The Honda Satellite-Linked Navigation System™ with Voice Recognition and Honda HD Digital Traffic is standard equipment on the Civic Type R.

The Type R's red-illuminated meter cluster features a 7-inch Drivers Information Interface (DII) that includes a range of selectable real-time information designed to support performance driving. The system can display throttle and brake application in a graphic percentage format, turbocharger boost pressure, lap time (intended for use on closed circuits) and shift lights. A graphical G-meter provides a representation of acceleration, braking and cornering forces.

Safety Performance

The 2017 Civic Type R is equipped with numerous safety and driver-assistive features. Active safety features include Vehicle Stability Assist™ (VSA®) with Traction Control, Advanced 4-Channel ABS, Electronic Brake Distribution (EDB), Brake Assist, LED daytime running lights, headlights and fog lights, a multi-angle rearview camera with guidelines, and an Indirect Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS). Passive safety begins with advanced unibody engineering and construction, which includes the Advanced Compatibility Engineering™ (ACE™) body structure and energy-dispersing crash stroke front frame rails are employed, and additional passive-safety features include advanced front airbags (i-SRS), front side airbags, and side curtain airbags with rollover sensor.


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Posted
19 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

 

Another good review....factual, honest and impartial.

Still take the Focus RS over this ugly ass of a Car.

Why is there duck tape over the red terminal on the battery? Seems weird.

Posted
2 minutes ago, dfelt said:

Still take the Focus RS over this ugly ass of a Car.

Why is there duck tape over the red terminal on the battery? Seems weird.

This thing is starting to grow on me a good bit actually...and if anything I would take a Golf R over the Focus RS or the Civic Type R.

However, Focus Rs is starting to be available much cheaper on the used market.

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Took their sweet time getting the Type R back to North America, looks like they nailed it... I think fans of the old Integra Type R have aged out of driving something so over styled by now (and it was nice and understated aside from the little badge).  I never drove an Integra R but my friend let me drive his Integra GSR a handful of times, it was a great little car.

I could only see myself in one of these if it was black and didn't have the wing.

 

 

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It would be interesting if some magazine would do comparison between Civic type R, Golf R, Focus RS and maybe STi.  I am not sure how it will compare in handling but 0-60 Civic is slower by about a second then the rest of these cars.

Personally, it would not be my choice for a number of reasons.

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19 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

Umm, no. Just no. 

Golf R would be my choice, followed by the WRX.

For 33K you can buy a 5.0 Mustang GT with a hundred more horsepower, a nicer interior, better exterior sheet metal, more aftermarket upgrades, and actual adults in the owner enthusiast community.

1 hour ago, frogger said:

Took their sweet time getting the Type R back to North America, looks like they nailed it... I think fans of the old Integra Type R have aged out of driving something so over styled by now (and it was nice and understated aside from the little badge).  I never drove an Integra R but my friend let me drive his Integra GSR a handful of times, it was a great little car.

I could only see myself in one of these if it was black and didn't have the wing.

 

 

I could see myself in it if other better choices didn't exist in the sport compact market.

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Posted
59 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

Golf R would be my choice, followed by the WRX.

For 33K you can buy a 5.0 Mustang GT with a hundred more horsepower, a nicer interior, better exterior sheet metal, more aftermarket upgrades, and actual adults in the owner enthusiast community.

I could see myself in it if other better choices didn't exist in the sport compact market.

Exactly what I'm getting at. I can have a top notch V8 Stang or Camaro for that price. Definitely not marketed to an old school soul like myself. 

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This car is really growing on me.  They have done a great job and all the parts basically serve a purpose.  I disagree about the mustang having a nicer interior and it simply will not have the people and cargo carrying ability of this.  Not to mention, matching it feature for feature would take you well into the 40k rang for the mustang GTe.  After watching the reviews I am interested in what will happen to this engine in it's upcoming Accord tune. 

Posted
40 minutes ago, Stew said:

This car is really growing on me.  They have done a great job and all the parts basically serve a purpose.  I disagree about the mustang having a nicer interior and it simply will not have the people and cargo carrying ability of this.  Not to mention, matching it feature for feature would take you well into the 40k rang for the mustang GTe.  After watching the reviews I am interested in what will happen to this engine in it's upcoming Accord tune. 

They have done a great job on the car, the market is very competitive and I see better choices available.  Still a neat piece of iron!

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Posted
1 hour ago, Stew said:

This car is really growing on me.  They have done a great job and all the parts basically serve a purpose.  I disagree about the mustang having a nicer interior and it simply will not have the people and cargo carrying ability of this.  Not to mention, matching it feature for feature would take you well into the 40k rang for the mustang GTe.  After watching the reviews I am interested in what will happen to this engine in it's upcoming Accord tune. 

It's hard to argue with 435 horsepower vs 305...

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Posted
21 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

It's hard to argue with 435 horsepower vs 305...

Not to mention that despite the extra room (which minimal Btw), these cars are marketed as performance cars, not family haulers and on the performance front, they fall well short compared to better options out there. Also, regarding the price, how many Civics Type Rs will you actually find for under $35K? My guess is next to none. 

Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

Not to mention that despite the extra room (which minimal Btw), these cars are marketed as performance cars, not family haulers and on the performance front, they fall well short compared to better options out there. Also, regarding the price, how many Civics Type Rs will you actually find for under $35K? My guess is next to none. 

As much as I love imported performance cars I will say it is hard to beat domestics at this game. The MK4 Supra is an awesome car and I would give my eye teeth to have one...yet it sold in minuscule numbers next to the Camaro, Firebird, Mustang, and even the Impala SS of the Era.

Acura sold 24 NSX last month or something like that...GM will build more Corvettes than that while I am eating dinner...

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No way. 


The more I see and read, the less I like it. It's absolutely juvenile and tacky in the worst ways possible, and it does not offer the real world performance to compare to it's targeted peers. 

I think I'm going to tune my GTI in the next month or so, and if I do, I can't wait to catch one of these on the skreetz. :booyah: :wavey:

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1 hour ago, Frisky Dingo said:

No way. 


The more I see and read, the less I like it. It's absolutely juvenile and tacky in the worst ways possible, and it does not offer the real world performance to compare to it's targeted peers. 

I think I'm going to tune my GTI in the next month or so, and if I do, I can't wait to catch one of these on the skreetz. :booyah: :wavey:

...what is that ugly strange spec disappearing in your rear view mirror, sir?

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On the Grand Tour they tested the Focus RS and Mustang GT 5.0 and when they ran them around the track, the Focus RS was faster.  Wouldn't surprise me if the Civic Type R could beat a V8 Mustang around some race tracks.  

That being said, I am not too excited about a $35k Civic.  If you are a hardcore Civic fan I'm sure you'd like this.

Posted
6 hours ago, smk4565 said:

On the Grand Tour they tested the Focus RS and Mustang GT 5.0 and when they ran them around the track, the Focus RS was faster.  Wouldn't surprise me if the Civic Type R could beat a V8 Mustang around some race tracks.  

That being said, I am not too excited about a $35k Civic.  If you are a hardcore Civic fan I'm sure you'd like this.

The RS was all wheel drive which is why it had an advantage.

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Posted

This car is light, quick and Honda built. 

You simply can't go wrong.  Looks great too.

Posted
3 hours ago, Guest AsianPersuasian said:

This car is light, quick and Honda built. 

You simply can't go wrong.  Looks great too.

Except that everything else in the segment is more powerful, or has better handling or more interesting styling.

Honda ranks with Ford as a company that just does not impressed me all that much at the moment.

On 6/16/2017 at 11:34 AM, Frisky Dingo said:

No way. 


The more I see and read, the less I like it. It's absolutely juvenile and tacky in the worst ways possible, and it does not offer the real world performance to compare to it's targeted peers. 

I think I'm going to tune my GTI in the next month or so, and if I do, I can't wait to catch one of these on the skreetz. :booyah: :wavey:

MK7 GTI is orders of magnitude better than the SI and the Dated Focus ST.  VW would pretty much have to cancel production of the GTI for me to consider either the Civic it the Focus ST.

Posted
13 hours ago, A Horse With No Name said:

Except that everything else in the segment is more powerful, or has better handling or more interesting styling.

Honda ranks with Ford as a company that just does not impressed me all that much at the moment.

MK7 GTI is orders of magnitude better than the SI and the Dated Focus ST.  VW would pretty much have to cancel production of the GTI for me to consider either the Civic it the Focus ST.

It's easily an entire generation ahead of the ST. And in just 2 years, there will be an all-new one.

Posted
1 hour ago, Frisky Dingo said:

It's easily an entire generation ahead of the ST. And in just 2 years, there will be an all-new one.

We just drove one and i would agree.  Got a test drive yesterday as a part of fathers day....carbon steel with just the options I wanted.  Wife and I both fell in love....we were filling out a credit ap for the GTI when another car caught my wife's eye...should be picking it up tonight...If you are thinking GTI you are both right and wrong...and no it is not a golf R, and it damn sure is not a Civic SI.

Posted
1 minute ago, Frisky Dingo said:

@A Horse With No Name Sweet, can't wait to see what it is.

From the same dealer we turned the TDI in at....it is being washed and detailed at the moment and credit is approved and good to go.

I will post details tonight after I pick it up...

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On 6/18/2017 at 8:20 PM, A Horse With No Name said:

Except that everything else in the segment is more powerful, or has better handling or more interesting styling.

Honda ranks with Ford as a company that just does not impressed me all that much at the moment.

MK7 GTI is orders of magnitude better than the SI and the Dated Focus ST.  VW would pretty much have to cancel production of the GTI for me to consider either the Civic it the Focus ST.

Because of the light weight the Type R is pretty equal to the RS in power to weight while having a considerably better power to weight than a golf R or WRX STi for example.  And 35k is fully loaded, there are no options so of course he will ALL be stickered around 35k.  Yes, some dealers will want a premium, but that happens with all new specialty cars.  Also, it is far more than a little roomier than the Camaro and Mustang  Thanks to it's hatch design it has more cargo room than the Mustang and Camaro combined.   And is there even an opion for for full LED lighting on the Mustang or Camaro?  A V6 Camaro or EB Mustang with the options to make hem equivalent to the Type R would be 40k or better.  That is also a far more apples to apples comparison  a stock 35k Mustang GT or 38k 1SS is a pretty basic car comparatively.

 

 

As for VW, love them.  love the looks, the drive, the simple interior designs,  and the way they go and tunability.  They are missing the quality mark though  That is only reason why I have buyer's remorse on my bug.  It is a joy to drive, I get compliments everywhere I go on it, nothing on the road looks like it, and i love having streaming bluetooth audio and wireless bluetooth calling without having to deal with a touchscreen.  I have put 20k miles on it and the total miles are only 74k  I am having wa too many issues for that low of mileage.  That is why the the SI is on my radar.  The SI is a hell of a deal too.  The only one to come close to the kit for the money is the Hyundai Sonata Sport.  If VW had Honda/Toyota reliability I would never own anything else. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Stew said:

Because of the light weight the Type R is pretty equal to the RS in power to weight while having a considerably better power to weight than a golf R or WRX STi for example.  And 35k is fully loaded, there are no options so of course he will ALL be stickered around 35k.  Yes, some dealers will want a premium, but that happens with all new specialty cars.  Also, it is far more than a little roomier than the Camaro and Mustang  Thanks to it's hatch design it has more cargo room than the Mustang and Camaro combined.   And is there even an opion for for full LED lighting on the Mustang or Camaro?  A V6 Camaro or EB Mustang with the options to make hem equivalent to the Type R would be 40k or better.  That is also a far more apples to apples comparison  a stock 35k Mustang GT or 38k 1SS is a pretty basic car comparatively.

 

 

As for VW, love them.  love the looks, the drive, the simple interior designs,  and the way they go and tunability.  They are missing the quality mark though  That is only reason why I have buyer's remorse on my bug.  It is a joy to drive, I get compliments everywhere I go on it, nothing on the road looks like it, and i love having streaming bluetooth audio and wireless bluetooth calling without having to deal with a touchscreen.  I have put 20k miles on it and the total miles are only 74k  I am having wa too many issues for that low of mileage.  That is why the the SI is on my radar.  The SI is a hell of a deal too.  The only one to come close to the kit for the money is the Hyundai Sonata Sport.  If VW had Honda/Toyota reliability I would never own anything else. 

I just picked up an R line Beetle, 18,000 miles, happy so far.

Posted
1 minute ago, Stew said:

Must see photos :)

I will post some up....thought of you when I bought it...wife and daughters picked it out...Denim blue...

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Very nice.  And like I said i love it.  R-Line is supposed to be even better though with a better sorted suspension and styling updates.  I have to admit that trading for a R-Line with a Sunroof has been a huge temptation and maybe start with less than 53k miles. 

Posted
Just now, Stew said:

Very nice.  And like I said i love it.  R-Line is supposed to be even better though with a better sorted suspension and styling updates.  I have to admit that trading for a R-Line with a Sunroof has been a huge temptation and maybe start with less than 53k miles. 

I think they got some things sorted out as time went on...

I will be happy with whatever you get. SI would be a darned fine choice also. Only problem for us (other than a lack of a test drive) was that local dealers were only getting coupes and the Civic coupe has less backs eat room than a BRZ/FRS.

Posted
1 minute ago, A Horse With No Name said:

I think they got some things sorted out as time went on...

I will be happy with whatever you get. SI would be a darned fine choice also. Only problem for us (other than a lack of a test drive) was that local dealers were only getting coupes and the Civic coupe has less backs eat room than a BRZ/FRS.

That is one thing I love about the bug.  It has more interior room than a 10 inch longer Civic or a 20 inch longer ATS coupe!  i know the 14+ R-Lines got a few more ponies and the ability to run on 87 too, so I think that was a big upgrade and I think window issues were mainly a 12 thing. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Stew said:

That is one thing I love about the bug.  It has more interior room than a 10 inch longer Civic or a 20 inch longer ATS coupe!  i know the 14+ R-Lines got a few more ponies and the ability to run on 87 too, so I think that was a big upgrade and I think window issues were mainly a 12 thing. 

You might find a long career for your beetle if you can sort out its teething issues.

Pretty much buy 93 as both of my Miatas, my Cooper S, my Chevelle, my 55 Chevy...all ran on it...

Posted
15 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

You might find a long career for your beetle if you can sort out its teething issues.

Pretty much buy 93 as both of my Miatas, my Cooper S, my Chevelle, my 55 Chevy...all ran on it...

Yep, only use 93 in it.  My big 3 things to fix are the intake, window, and washer fluid.  I also fresh spark plugs to go in it.  I have also wondered if maybe there is a better made aftermarket intake manifold design available. 

And the narcissist in me likes getting stopped by random strangers gushing over the bug lol.  My brother gets POed because the Caddy doesn't get the same attention. 

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