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As if the Volkswagen Group hasn't had enough bad news, there are new accusations of cheating involving Porsche.

German weekly Wirtschaftswoche reports the German transport authority KBA is investigating Porsche for possibly using a piece of illegal software to cheat emission tests. The software in question detects movements in the steering wheel and will turn the emissions control off if the steering wheel is turned 15 degrees or more. This is the same software Audi was accused of using in certain models last year.

"We can confirm for all Porsche models: We are not using steering movements for the sake of detecting a test bench driving cycle and reacting to it," Porsche said in an email to Reuters.

Source: Wirtschaftswoche, Reuters

 


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Like anyone is going to believe that since the rest of the parent company has cheated, why not Porsche also. For sure this will hurt sales.

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41 minutes ago, dfelt said:

Like anyone is going to believe that since he rest of the parent company has cheated, why not Porsche also. For sure this will hurt sales.

The whole thing si going to devolve into a crap show....

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All fodder for the green movement to mandate electric cars.  Even the car makers that don't cheat will get accused that they did cheat so they get pressured into making electric cars.

once all the cars are running on electric, then people will complain about cheat software in power plants.  

And Porsche probably did cheat since VW and Audi did.

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1 hour ago, smk4565 said:

once all the cars are running on electric, then people will complain about cheat software in power plants.  

Cheat Software in Power Plants???????:huh:

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14 minutes ago, dfelt said:

Cheat Software in Power Plants???????:huh:

I think he was suggesting that people are just looking to complain without evidence of wrongdoing. 

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58 minutes ago, dfelt said:

Cheat Software in Power Plants???????:huh:

Having built control panels and done control work in power plants, certainly possible but highly unlikely.

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I know some car makers cheated emissions, but it also opens the door for environmentalists to assume all car makers cheated.  And once cars are all electric, then the emissions just got transferred to the tail pipe to the power plant.  So people will complain about the pollution from the power plant.  Until the power plants are all zero emission too.

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11 hours ago, balthazar said:

 

We live in a post truth world now....might as well live in one without currency also...

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42 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

We live in a post truth world now....might as well live in one without currency also...

careful, we don't want to invite WW3...

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2 hours ago, loki said:

careful, we don't want to invite WW3...

Without delving into politics any further than we need to, we pretty much have a thirteen year old boy in a mans body in the white house, and another 13 year old boy in a man's body in leadership in North Korea. We have seemed hell bent on marginalizing and invading Iran for a decade or more, and the middle east is less stable every day. Putin is a wild card. Both parties pretty much are owned by the corporate state. We have very little in the terms of a press or journalism in this country that is connected to reality in any way. The average American voter is either as dumb as a box of tree stumps or a bar of soap, given the day of the week. We have lots of nukes, as do lots of other countries.

Maybe the Voluntary Human Extinction movement (a real thing, google it) isn't so voluntary...

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2 hours ago, A Horse With No Name said:

Without delving into politics any further than we need to, we pretty much have a thirteen year old boy in a mans body in the white house, and another 13 year old boy in a man's body in leadership in North Korea. We have seemed hell bent on marginalizing and invading Iran for a decade or more, and the middle east is less stable every day. Putin is a wild card. Both parties pretty much are owned by the corporate state. We have very little in the terms of a press or journalism in this country that is connected to reality in any way. The average American voter is either as dumb as a box of tree stumps or a bar of soap, given the day of the week. We have lots of nukes, as do lots of other countries.

Maybe the Voluntary Human Extinction movement (a real thing, google it) isn't so voluntary...

gah, i was just talking about the star trek timeline... but then comes warp tech.. in comes vulkans, then peace and expansion till... klingons, romulans, cardasians, the borg...

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3 hours ago, A Horse With No Name said:

Without delving into politics any further than we need to, we pretty much have a thirteen year old boy in a mans body in the white house, and another 13 year old boy in a man's body in leadership in North Korea. We have seemed hell bent on marginalizing and invading Iran for a decade or more, and the middle east is less stable every day. Putin is a wild card. Both parties pretty much are owned by the corporate state. We have very little in the terms of a press or journalism in this country that is connected to reality in any way. The average American voter is either as dumb as a box of tree stumps or a bar of soap, given the day of the week. We have lots of nukes, as do lots of other countries.

Maybe the Voluntary Human Extinction movement (a real thing, google it) isn't so voluntary...

At least the Tree Stumps are Clean if they are a bar of Soap! :P

3 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

I will trade you Romulans for my current elected officials. Not even close...

Always more partial to Klingons than Romulans. Romulans remind me of all the weasels in DC! :D

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1 minute ago, dfelt said:

At least the Tree Stumps are Clean if they are a bar of Soap! :P

In a post apocalyptic world tree bark can also be used as toilet paper....

3 minutes ago, dfelt said:

At least the Tree Stumps are Clean if they are a bar of Soap! :P

Always more partial to Klingons than Romulans. Romulans remind me of all the weasels in DC! :D

...they are also more feminine than Hillary Clinton, Ann Coulter, or Kellyanne Conway so you get a two for one deal with the Klingons.

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3 hours ago, A Horse With No Name said:

In a post apocalyptic world tree bark can also be used as toilet paper....

...they are also more feminine than Hillary Clinton, Ann Coulter, or Kellyanne Conway so you get a two for one deal with the Klingons.

:roflmao: Spoken for Truth! :roflmao: 

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