Dodge News: 2018 Dodge Challenger Demon Begins At $86,090

[William Maley]

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The madness that is the 2018 Dodge Challenger Demon has been priced. It will set you back $86,090 - includes $1,700 gas guzzler tax and $1,095 destination charge. That will get you 808 horsepower and 717 pound-feet of torque from the 6.2L supercharged V8. If you want the full monty - 840 horsepower and 770 pound-feet of torque, you'll need the optional Demon Crate which will only set you back a $1.00. (FCA says the Demon Crate's true is $6,140). Other $1.00 options include,

• Cloth rear seat
• Leather rear seat
• Front passenger cloth seat
• Demon trunk carpet kit

There are other options available for the Demon that will push the pricetag up,

• Red Seat Belts - $195
• Comfort Audio Group: Cloth Seats, includes front passenger cloth seat, 18-speaker Harman Kardon Audio, including two subwoofers and 900W amplifier, premium floor mats and bright pedals - $995
• Leather Front Seat Group: Laguna leather and Alcantara suede covered seats with embossed Demon head logo, front passenger seat, heated and ventilated leather front seats with heated steering wheel, premium floor mats, power tilt/telescoping column and bright pedals - $1,595
• Painted Black Satin Hood - $1,995
• Comfort Group, Leather Seats: Laguna leather and Alcantara suede covered seats with embossed Demon head logo, front passenger seat, heated and ventilated leather front seats with heated steering wheel, premium floor mats, power tilt/telescoping column, bright pedals, 18-speaker Harman Kardon Audio, including two subwoofers and 900W amplifier - $2,495
• Painted Black Satin Graphics Package: satin black painted hood, roof and decklid $3,495
• "For buyers who must have a sunroof – Power sunroof" - $4,995

All Challenger Demons will also come with a one-day session at the Bob Bondurant School of High Performance Driving in Chandler, Arizona - hopefully reducing the number of accidents involving Demons within the first few months.

Dodge is planning on building 3,000 Demons for the U.S. and 300 for Canada. Deliveries are expected to begin this fall.

Source: Dodge
Press Release is on Page 2

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Dodge Announces Pricing for 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon — Owners Can Unleash Full Power for $1

New Dodge Challenger SRT Demon starts at a U.S. Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) of $84,995 (including $1,700 gas guzzler tax, excluding $1,095 destination); Demon Crate and options available to owners for $1

• Exclusive, personalized and serialized Demon Crate offers components that unleash the Challenger SRT Demon’s 840 horsepower, 770 lb.-ft. of torque and full potential at the drag strip; available to owners for $1
• First-ever, factory-production car with driver’s seat only; front passenger seat, available for $1
• Rear seat available in leather or cloth for $1
• Demon trunk carpet kit available for $1
• Highest horsepower V-8 production car engine ever produced
• First-ever front-wheel lift in production car as certified by Guinness World Records
• World’s fastest quarter-mile production car with an elapsed time (ET) of 9.65 seconds and 140 miles per hour (mph) as certified by National Hot Rod Association (NHRA)
• World’s fastest 0-60 production car: 2.3 seconds
• 0-30 miles per hour: 1.0 second
• Highest g-force acceleration of any production car: 1.8 g
• Challenger SRT Demon is covered by FCA US LLC factory warranty, including three-year/36,000-mile limited vehicle warranty and five-year/60,000-mile limited powertrain coverage
• Production of limited-edition, serialized, single model-year (3,000 United States/300 Canada) Challenger SRT Demon begins later this summer; deliveries to Dodge//SRT dealers to begin this fall
• All customers who buy the new 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon receive one full-day session at Bob Bondurant School of High-performance Driving

May 23, 2017 , Auburn Hills, Mich. - The 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon, the most powerful muscle car ever with 808 horsepower, starts at a U.S. Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) of $84,995 (including $1,700 gas guzzler tax, excluding $1,095 destination). Challenger SRT Demon owners who want to unleash its full potential at the drag strip – and its full 840 horsepower and 770 lb.-ft. of torque – can do so for $1 (MSRP).
 
“Eighty-five thousand dollars is not just a number in a business case to Dodge; we know it's a lot of money and a significant up-charge over a Challenger Hellcat,” said Tim Kuniskis, Head of Passenger Cars – Dodge, SRT, Chrysler and FIAT, FCA North America. “We worked very hard to build as much value into the Challenger SRT Demon as possible – features, performance and exclusivity that simply can't be duplicated with a goal of maintaining, and possibly even growing, as much future value as possible.”
                                      
The limited-production Dodge Challenger SRT Demon is the first-ever production car to do a front-wheel lift, as certified by Guinness World Records, and it’s the world’s fastest quarter-mile production car with an elapsed time (ET) of 9.65 seconds at 140 miles per hour (mph), as certified by National Hot Rod Association (NHRA). It also registers the highest g-force (1.8 g) ever recorded at launch in a production car.

While the 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon remains a livable street car, every component was scrutinized and optimized for weight, capability and durability on the strip. The 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon includes key standard features unique to Dodge’s ultimate performance halo, including:

• Supercharged 6.2-liter HEMI® Demon V-8 with 808 horsepower and 717 lb.-ft. of torque
• TorqueFlite 8HP90 eight-speed automatic transmission with factory-production car exclusive TransBrake
• Standard with one seat, a premium cloth-covered driver seat
• Standard cloth seat includes Ballistic II inserts with silver embroidered Demon head logo
• Standard line lock engages the front brakes to hold the Challenger SRT Demon stationary but leaves the rear wheels free for a burnout to heat up and clean the rear tires
• Brembo lightweight high-performance brake system with two-piece rotors
• 3.09 rear axle ratio for improved off-the-line acceleration
• After-Run Cooler, a factory-production car first, helps the Challenger SRT Demon get ready for the next run as quickly as possible by running the cooling fan and the low-temperature circuit coolant pump after engine shutdown
• First-ever factory-production car with innovative SRT Power Chiller™ liquid-to-air intercooler chiller system
• Air-Grabber™ induction system includes the largest functional hood scoop (45.2 square inches) of any production car
• Torque Reserve delivers increased levels of power and torque at launch
• A flat-bottom SRT Performance steering wheel wrapped in Alcantara with paddle shifters
• Demon head logo fender badges
• Two-speaker audio system
• SRT Demon-tuned three-mode Adaptive Damping Suspension (ADS)
• 315/40R18 street-legal drag radial tires specifically designed and developed exclusively for the Challenger SRT Demon, with a new compound and specific tire sidewall construction
• 18 in. x 11 in. lightweight aluminum wheels
• Remote start
• Manual tilt/telescoping column
• Serialized dash plaque
• Dark Brushed II interior accents

 
For owners who want to make their Challenger SRT Demon even more capable on the strip or more comfortable for the street, available options include (all options are set at U.S. MSRP):

• Demon Crate ($1): Exclusive Demon Crate offers components that unleash the car’s 840 horsepower, 770 lb.-ft. of torque and full potential at the drag strip and is personalized with the buyer’s name, VIN and serial number. The Demon Crate and the performance parts it holds are valued at $6,140, but Challenger SRT Demon owners can buy the entire package for $1. Contents of the Demon Crate include:
  • Direct Connection Performance Parts:
    • Two narrow, front-runner drag wheels
    • Performance powertrain control module with high-octane engine calibration
    • Replacement instrument panel switch module with high-octane button
    • Personalized ID badge
    • Conical performance air filter
    • Two valve stems
    • Passenger mirror block-off plate
  • Demon-branded track tools:
    • Hydraulic floor jack with carrying bag
    • Cordless impact wrench with charger
    • Torque wrench with extension and socket
    • Tire pressure gauge
    • Fender cover
    • Tool bag
  • Foam case that fits into the Challenger SRT Demon trunk and securely holds the front runner wheels and track tools
• Cloth rear seat ($1)
• Leather rear seat ($1)
• Front passenger cloth seat ($1)
• Demon trunk carpet kit ($1)
• Red seat belts ($195)
• Leather Front Seat Group includes Laguna leather and Alcantara suede covered seats with embossed Demon head logo, front passenger seat, heated and ventilated leather front seats with heated steering wheel, premium floor mats, power tilt/telescoping column and bright pedals ($1,595)
• Comfort Audio Group, Cloth Seats, includes front passenger cloth seat, 18-speaker Harman Kardon Audio, including two subwoofers and 900W amplifier, premium floor mats and bright pedals ($995)
• Painted Black Satin Hood ($1,995)
• Comfort Group, Leather Seats, includes Laguna leather and Alcantara suede covered seats with embossed Demon head logo, front passenger seat, heated and ventilated leather front seats with heated steering wheel, premium floor mats, power tilt/telescoping column, bright pedals, 18-speaker Harman Kardon Audio, including two subwoofers and 900W amplifier ($2,495)
• Painted Black Satin Graphics Package, available with all 15 exterior colors, includes satin black painted hood, roof and decklid ($3,495)
• For buyers who must have a sunroof – Power sunroof ($4,995)

The 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon will be available 15 exterior colors: B5 Blue (late availability), Billet Silver, Destroyer Grey, F8 Green (late availability), Go Mango, Granite Crystal, Indigo Blue (late availability), Maximum Steel, Octane Red, Pitch Black, Plum Crazy (late availability), Redline, TorRed, White Knuckle and Yellow Jacket.
  
Production of the limited-edition single model year 2018 Dodge Challenger SRT Demon begins later this summer at the Brampton (Ont.) Assembly plant, with 3,000 vehicles for the United States and 300 vehicles for Canada. Deliveries to Dodge//SRT dealers will begin this fall.
 
The Challenger SRT Demon is covered by FCA US LLC’s factory warranty, including three-year/36,000-mile limited vehicle warranty and five-year/60,000-mile limited powertrain coverage.

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[G. David Felt]

Very Cool  

Wonder if any will get exported by the wealthy middle east?

Also wonder if Canada or the US will crash the first one and then which state or province, 

[riviera74]

If FCA were really smart, they would make this car an export-only model to the Middle East.  Especially given that they were just served by the Justice Department for issues concerning both their diesel engines AND they are paying CAFE fines as we speak.

[Stew]

So, GM should have to ship all it's performance cars to the middle east because it had a fortune to the government in fines over the ignition issue?  Guess what.  All manufacturers come to blows with the government at one time or another and generally multiple times. 

 

Anyway, this is a hell of a deal.  Hopefully it isn't like the C7 Vette where the first accidents happened under testing before it even went on sale.

[Drew Dowdell]

1 hour ago, Stew said:

So, GM should have to ship all it's performance cars to the middle east because it had a fortune to the government in fines over the ignition issue?  Guess what.  All manufacturers come to blows with the government at one time or another and generally multiple times. 

 

Anyway, this is a hell of a deal.  Hopefully it isn't like the C7 Vette where the first accidents happened under testing before it even went on sale.

I think the point was that FCA is already paying CAFE fines and that the Demon only pulls down FCA's CAFE average further... though not by much because it is such a miniscule number of cars. 

[daves87rs]

Considering all the issues (cafe and otherwise), it's not that bad of a deal.

 

STill, 86k for a LX car.......

[Anthony Fongaro]

I do think it's funny how the Demon Crate is a whopping $1.00. I also wonder what options Demon owners will order, especially with that Demon Crate option.

[surreal1272]

10 hours ago, Stew said:

So, GM should have to ship all it's performance cars to the middle east because it had a fortune to the government in fines over the ignition issue?  Guess what.  All manufacturers come to blows with the government at one time or another and generally multiple times. 

 

Anyway, this is a hell of a deal.  Hopefully it isn't like the C7 Vette where the first accidents happened under testing before it even went on sale.

Good grief man. Always interjecting GM into it. Sorry, but for all of GMs flaws, they are nowhere close to the dire situation that FCA finds itself in as far fuel standards go. No hybrids, no plug ins, no nothing that keeps them afloat with CAFE. That is the point here. 

[ocnblu]

1 hour ago, surreal1272 said:

Good grief man. Always interjecting GM into it. Sorry, but for all of GMs flaws, they are nowhere close to the dire situation that FCA finds itself in as far fuel standards go. No hybrids, no plug ins, no nothing that keeps them afloat with CAFE. That is the point here. 

HELLO... Pacifica???

[surreal1272]

16 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

HELLO... Pacifica???

Correction. One model with a name that no one associates with their minivans and instead only remember a half baked CUV that was prone to premature rusting. My bad. 

[cp-the-nerd]

The Demon is cool in theory, but I think the Hellcat is their best muscle car as far as bang for the buck. My personal favorite is actually the Challenger 392 for practical, everyday performance.

[ocnblu]

7 hours ago, surreal1272 said:

Correction. One model with a name that no one associates with their minivans and instead only remember a half baked CUV that was prone to premature rusting. My bad. 

You're welcome.

[surreal1272]

5 hours ago, ocnblu said:

You're welcome.

I still stand by my point though. Lack of innovation and new technology investments will ruin FCA, on top of all their other issues.

[Drew Dowdell]

1 hour ago, surreal1272 said:

I still stand by my point though. Lack of innovation and new technology investments will ruin FCA, on top of all their other issues.

It's starting to become an industry wide phenomenon though....  Ford, Toyota, Honda, have all pulled back on platform investments right now. It's just most obvious at FCA because theirs are the oldest. GM is in good shape for now because they have a batch of new platforms fresh from the oven and they were already in dire need of consolidation... but everyone else seems to keep rehashing old platforms.   Nissan? What new platforms have they got? Honda has the new Civic, but most of the rest of their stuff is just variants of existing platforms. Ford's newest is Mustang and Transit, though F-150 is relatively recent.

[Scout]

As cool as the Demon is, it's a bit of a fail. The thing is basically a purpose built 1/4 mile car. However, from the factory, one is not allowed to run it all out on the 1/4 mile. 

[surreal1272]

19 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

It's starting to become an industry wide phenomenon though....  Ford, Toyota, Honda, have all pulled back on platform investments right now. It's just most obvious at FCA because theirs are the oldest. GM is in good shape for now because they have a batch of new platforms fresh from the oven and they were already in dire need of consolidation... but everyone else seems to keep rehashing old platforms.   Nissan? What new platforms have they got? Honda has the new Civic, but most of the rest of their stuff is just variants of existing platforms. Ford's newest is Mustang and Transit, though F-150 is relatively recent.

True but FCA is the worst of the "lack of innovation and investment" bunch (and again this is on top off their other issues) for too many reasons to list here. 

Edited May 25, 2017 by surreal1272

[Drew Dowdell]

2 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

True but FCA is the worst of the "lack of innovation and investment" bunch (and again this is on top off their other issues) for too many reasons to list here. 

That's because Serg is trying to cut his way to success.

[G. David Felt]

EV's will bring us our biggest splash of new platforms. Let's face it, we are in the Twilight Dusk of ICE auto's and as they do fade, the new platforms are going to be the Hybrids / EV's.

[surreal1272]

6 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

That's because Serg is trying to cut his way to success.

Exactly. Mismanagement of his brands isnt helping matters either. 

Edited May 25, 2017 by surreal1272

[G. David Felt]

35 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

Exactly. Mismanagement of his brands isnt helping matters either. 

He could have done so much if he did not take the billions of profits and waste it on Alfa and Fiat.

[Stew]

What?  the Alfa platform will go to Dodge and Jeep.  The 4 cylinder turbo will also beget the Hurricane Turbo 4s.  The 8 speed auto, of which they were one of the first to use, is still considered the gold standard of the industry.  As is UConnect, especially the newest version that just came out.  The hybrid system in the minivan is phenomenal.  The Pentastar was completely redone for the 16 GC and Durango and that version will find it's way through the other lineups with it's MUCH improved torque curve and still doesn't need DI to match the others (though the pentastar is setup to accept it).  The 6.4 Hemi is not that old and the Hellcat is still Practically new.  The platform being used for the Jeep Crossovers is perfect for their use and provide the ability for actual off-road prowess. 

 

The main thing is that the economy is shrinking and that is going to effect car sales.  profit is the number one motivation for any company.  From this point forward you are going to see companies using platforms for much longer.  GM has basically said they are going to be doing this from here forward.  Remember, Panther lasted for over 3 decades, Same with the W-Body, Fox Body, etc, etc, etc.  The important thing is not coming up with new platforms but keeping what you have modern.The LX platform may not be new, but it is still a very good platform.  The 15 upgrades transformed the whole feel.  I am amazed they feel like an Audi to me and my Brother's A5 was amazing in not only daily driving, but handling, and super comfortable of long trips.  Toyota is a great example.  the Camry is getting it's first all-new platform for the first time in basically 20 years, but the kept it fresh, where the targeted customers wanted it and they have maintained massive sales.  Same with the Accord and Civic.  All of GM's new platforms haven't been able to make their cars even close to the top Toyotas and Hondas that have ran, and continue to run older platforms.  As good as the Colorado and Canyon are, the Tacoma, (which is still based on a roughly 15 year old platform, outsells them both combined.  Your average buyer neither cares or even knows how old the platform a car has is, they just care about how it feels to them and the price they get. 

[Cmicasa the Great]

On 5/24/2017 at 9:02 AM, Stew said:

So, GM should have to ship all it's performance cars to the middle east because it had a fortune to the government in fines over the ignition issue?  Guess what.  All manufacturers come to blows with the government at one time or another and generally multiple times. 

 

Anyway, this is a hell of a deal.  Hopefully it isn't like the C7 Vette where the first accidents happened under testing before it even went on sale.

How is that relevant??? 

 

 

I'm as much an enthusiast as the next guy.. and the $86K seems fine to me considering the Viper is dead.. but am I the only one who is beginning to think that this HP thing is getting a bit outta hand? I mean seriously.. a great deal of people are crashing and can't handle their 180HP Corolla.. WTF is gonna happen when Grandma in her Toyota comes up against Goof-Ball in his Demon? 

[G. David Felt]

33 minutes ago, Cmicasa the Great said:

How is that relevant??? 

 

 

I'm as much an enthusiast as the next guy.. and the $86K seems fine to me considering the Viper is dead.. but am I the only one who is beginning to think that this HP thing is getting a bit outta hand? I mean seriously.. a great deal of people are crashing and can't handle their 180HP Corolla.. WTF is gonna happen when Grandma in her Toyota comes up against Goof-Ball in his Demon? 

Some will say who cares as long as Sergio can take our money and waste it on his stupid Fiat and Alfa crap.

[Cmicasa the Great]

36 minutes ago, dfelt said:

Some will say who cares as long as Sergio can take our money and waste it on his stupid Fiat and Alfa crap.

Not my money..  I haven't considered buying a Mopar since the early 90s..  Before they openly became a foreign company. Japanese, German, or Italian... Fuck that... Hey wait a minute..  Isn't that the WWII Axis of Evil? 

[G. David Felt]

 

[Stew]

On 5/26/2017 at 11:22 AM, Cmicasa the Great said:

How is that relevant??? 

 

 

I'm as much an enthusiast as the next guy.. and the $86K seems fine to me considering the Viper is dead.. but am I the only one who is beginning to think that this HP thing is getting a bit outta hand? I mean seriously.. a great deal of people are crashing and can't handle their 180HP Corolla.. WTF is gonna happen when Grandma in her Toyota comes up against Goof-Ball in his Demon? 

The point is fairly obvious.  people where acting like it will br wrecked Demons left and right, simply because it is a Mopar while C7s were wrecked in public before they awere even on sale.  The good thing about the Demon is that it is extremely limited, the bad thing is that most will probably end up tucked away in garages. 

[Cmicasa the Great]

16 minutes ago, Stew said:

The point is fairly obvious.  people where acting like it will br wrecked Demons left and right, simply because it is a Mopar while C7s were wrecked in public before they awere even on sale.  The good thing about the Demon is that it is extremely limited, the bad thing is that most will probably end up tucked away in garages. 

My reason for saying it has nothing to do it being an FCA vehicle. It has to do with PEOPLE... and them currently getting into massive accidents on Interstates driving vehicles that have 1/8th the power of the Demon. Even still.. normally U find a lot of irresponsible idiots in cars like the Dodge, Chevy, or Ford pulling that kinda of power. Stop being so fuckin sensitive every time your Italian company gets mentioned. 

[Stew]

23 hours ago, Cmicasa the Great said:

My reason for saying it has nothing to do it being an FCA vehicle. It has to do with PEOPLE... and them currently getting into massive accidents on Interstates driving vehicles that have 1/8th the power of the Demon. Even still.. normally U find a lot of irresponsible idiots in cars like the Dodge, Chevy, or Ford pulling that kinda of power. Stop being so f@#kin sensitive every time your Italian company gets mentioned. 

me stop being sensitive?  You are the one that goes on a tie raid everytime someone even says something that even be construed as a negative about GM, even when it isn't  Get over yourself. 

[A Horse With No Name]

On 5/24/2017 at 9:04 PM, cp-the-nerd said:

The Demon is cool in theory, but I think the Hellcat is their best muscle car as far as bang for the buck. My personal favorite is actually the Challenger 392 for practical, everyday performance.

...and I would agree with this also.

On 6/1/2017 at 9:40 AM, Cmicasa the Great said:

every time your Italian company gets mentioned. 

That it is...an Italian company building cars in Canada...I do not consider this a domestic car in its own right....

[A Horse With No Name]

On 6/1/2017 at 9:24 AM, Stew said:

The point is fairly obvious.  people where acting like it will br wrecked Demons left and right, simply because it is a Mopar while C7s were wrecked in public before they awere even on sale.  The good thing about the Demon is that it is extremely limited, the bad thing is that most will probably end up tucked away in garages. 

Given our boyhood proclivities for the Dukes of hazard and Dirty Mary crazy Larry, we have a long proud tradition of cheering when Mopar products die. We are only having a little fun here.

As for me, I like the Challenger, it really is growing on me. Was driving out of our subdivision the other night when a challenger was pulling in...my daughter was like Ohh my gosh what a beautiful car...

Was really nice sharing that moment with her.

 

Notice that the cop car that dies here is a Mopar also...

And speaking of Mopar carnage....the Blues Brothers did in a few Mopar police cars...

 

[oldshurst442]

4 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

...and I would agree with this also.

That it is...an Italian company building cars in Canada...I do not consider this a domestic car in its own right....

Well....NO!

It is an American car maker, building cars in Canada, just like the other 2 American car makers building cars in Canada for the sake of POLITICAL respect of doing business between the 2 countries.

The owners of this company are now Italian, Chryco. is still very much American as Auburn Hills tries its darnedest to stay that way!!!

I know  Casa and yourself means by it all and I dont take offense by it...

Well, yes I did take offense to it.

This part:

Quote

building cars in Canada...I do not consider this a domestic car

 

This is why I said this:

Quote

for the sake of POLITICAL respect of doing business between the 2 countries.

 

Trump has got me huffin and a puffin

SORRY!

[A Horse With No Name]

2 hours ago, oldshurst442 said:

Well....NO!

It is an American car maker, building cars in Canada, just like the other 2 American car makers building cars in Canada for the sake of POLITICAL respect of doing business between the 2 countries.

The owners of this company are now Italian, Chryco. is still very much American as Auburn Hills tries its darnedest to stay that way!!!

I know  Casa and yourself means by it all and I dont take offense by it...

Well, yes I did take offense to it.

This part:

 

This is why I said this:

 

Trump has got me huffin and a puffin

SORRY!

Chrysler is no longer an American company.

The cars in question are built in Ontario.

Auburn hills is in Michigan.

Marysville is in Ohio.

Honda is not an American company either.

Nor is BMW which builds cars in Spartanburg.

[A Horse With No Name]

As for being built in North America being American...

No...that would mean that a VW GTI is an American car.

Which it clearly is not.

It is a German car built in Pueblo Mexico.

An Impala built in Oshewa Ontario is pretty much an American car...

But not completely, just as a Cruze built in Mexico is not completely American either.

[Drew Dowdell]

And still, here I am driving my German designed, Korean built, American branded car.... And like the sands through the hour Glass, these are the days of our lives...

[G. David Felt]

On 5/25/2017 at 8:29 AM, surreal1272 said:

True but FCA is the worst of the "lack of innovation and investment" bunch (and again this is on top off their other issues) for too many reasons to list here. 

 

On 5/25/2017 at 8:32 AM, Drew Dowdell said:

That's because Serg is trying to cut his way to success.

Yes Serg master plan of rap American brands of their profits and invest in propping up the terrible Fiat and thinking bringing back a Dead Dog down Alfa will reverse FCA fortunes and make him the darling of the auto industry.

Sergio = Death of FCA, very slow at that but Death at the rate and business plan they are going.

[A Horse With No Name]

3 minutes ago, dfelt said:

 

Yes Serg master plan of rap American brands of their profits and invest in propping up the terrible Fiat and thinking bringing back a Dead Dog down Alfa will reverse FCA fortunes and make him the darling of the auto industry.

Sergio = Death of FCA, very slow at that but Death at the rate and business plan they are going.

We live in a post truth world where reality doesn't matter...

[G. David Felt]

ON TOPIC

Demon is still a very cool car and from what they advertise and show off of the programming of running it in the Quarter mile, the first supported auto that can be taken to the track and raced.

LONG LIVE THE AWESOMENESS OF AMERICAN ENGINEERING!

After all Fiat / Alfa could never build anything like this or get people to part with their hard earned money in the droves of what they take from this country.

10 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

We live in a post truth world where reality doesn't matter...

#FAKENEWS?????  

 FCA is not Italian anymore either it just dawned on me since they moved their HQ to some other European country.

OK, just answered that, they are HQ in the Netherlands now according to Wiki.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_Chrysler_Automobiles

[A Horse With No Name]

2 hours ago, dfelt said:

ON TOPIC

Demon is still a very cool car and from what they advertise and show off of the programming of running it in the Quarter mile, the first supported auto that can be taken to the track and raced.

 

Great, they can relive the 1970's Super Stock nationals with Sox and Martin. Nothing like living 47 years in the past to show you are capable of building cars people want in 2017.

2 hours ago, dfelt said:

LONG LIVE THE AWESOMENESS OF AMERICAN ENGINEERING!

That little bit left that hasn't been outsourced or sold to foreign companies, yes....

2 hours ago, dfelt said:

After all Fiat / Alfa could never build anything like this or get people to part with their hard earned money in the droves of what they take from this country.

There is this company called Ferrari that is Italian....they have built a fast car or two over the years. Rumor is people even pay stupid sums of money for old ones.

2 hours ago, dfelt said:

#FAKENEWS?????  

 

Fake news is about all we have left...

2 hours ago, dfelt said:

 FCA is not Italian anymore either it just dawned on me since they moved their HQ to some other European country.

They are going to be a historical company rather than one rooted in one particular country given a few more years of Sergio..

2 hours ago, dfelt said:

OK, just answered that, they are HQ in the Netherlands now according to Wiki.

Moving to a place where prostitution is legal is probably good if you are going to whore yourself out as a car company...

Edited June 8, 2017 by A Horse With No Name
Spelling.

[G. David Felt]

@A Horse With No Name  Love your answers!