Opel/Vauxhall News: Meet the 2017 Opel/Vauxhall Insignia and 2018 Holden Commodore

[William Maley]

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Just a day after a set of spy shots revealed the next-generation Opel and Vauxhall Insignia, Vauxhall has unveiled the 2017 Insignia Grand Sport. Meanwhile, Holden has pulled the wraps of the 2018 Commodore.

The Insignia/Commodore borrows a lot of cues from the 2013 Monza concept with a lowered grille, distinct sculpting along the side, and shorter overhangs. This new shape is more aerodynamic with a drag coefficient of 0.26. Even though the new Insignia is the same length as the outgoing model, the new one has a wheelbase that has been stretched 3.6 inches for added legroom. Other measurements to be aware of include,

• Track increased by 0.4 inches
• Roof lowered by 1.1 inches
• New Insignia weighs 132 pounds less than the outgoing model

As for the Commodore, the measurements to be aware of are,

• 2.9 inches shorter in overall length
• Wheelbase is 3.4 inches shorter
• 1.4 inches narrower in width

There is a lot of inspiration from the smaller Astra when it comes to the interior. Both models feature a similar dash design and a large touchscreen. The feature list includes heated front and rear seats, a massaging function for the front seats, heads-up display, and Apple CarPlay and Android Auto integration.

There is no mention of engines for the Insignia, but we're assuming there will be a range of diesel and gas engines - a fair majority of them being turbocharged. Some engines will feature a new eight-speed automatic transmission. As for the Commodore, Holden has revealed that it will come with 2.0L turbo engines running gas or diesel, and a 3.6L V6. There is also a new all-wheel drive system that features with two electrically-controlled multi-plate clutches taking the place of the rear differential. This will also bring torque vectoring to the models. Both models will come with am adaptive FlexRide chassis that offers a number of modes.

Vauxhall says the Insignia Grand Sport will debut in March at the Geneva Motor Show, while the Holden Commodore will go on sale in early 2018. This leads us to believe that Buick will likely reveal the 2018 Regal at the New York Auto Show.

 

Source: Vauxhall, Holden
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VAUXHALL REVEALS ALL-NEW INSIGNIA

• Elegant lines with class-leading aerodynamics and large coupé style
• Up to 175kg lighter than the outgoing version
• New all-wheel-drive with torque vectoring and eight-speed automatic transmission
• New technologies including next-gen IntelliLux Matrix LED headlights
• Extended OnStar service with hotel reservation

Luton – Vauxhall has released first pictures of the all-new Insignia, known as the Insignia Grand Sport, which will receive its world premiere at the 2017 Geneva Motor Show in March.

Following on from the previous generation, which won the European Car of the Year in 2009, and sold over 30,000 in the UK last year, the Insignia Grand Sport is based on a completely new vehicle architecture. Its revised proportions result in a more spacious interior, giving the car a more athletic appearance and an improved road stance, including class-leading aerodynamics and Cd figure of just 0.26.

Like with the Astra, efficiency was key for the engineers. Optimised packaging and the use of lightweight materials have helped cut the weight by up to 175kg, allowing high-tech features such as the ultra-modern all-wheel-drive system with torque vectoring and the new eight-speed automatic transmission to exploit their strengths to the full.

There is a raft of top technologies that make driving the Insignia Grand Sport safer, more relaxing and more comfortable than before. Next generation IntelliLux LED matrix lighting, Lane Keep Assist, Head-up Display and unique AGR-certified premium seats, front- and rear-seat heating and a heated windshield are just some examples.

Outstanding infotainment and connectivity are also on board thanks to the latest generation IntelliLink systems and Vauxhall OnStar, which with the launch of the Insignia Grand Sport, will offer even more functionality for customers.

It is also the first Vauxhall with an active aluminium bonnet, improving pedestrian protection considerably.

“Vauxhall is raising its game even further with the launch of the new Insignia Grand Sport,” said Rory Harvey, Vauxhall’s Chairman and Managing Director. ““It has all of the virtues of its successful smaller brother the Astra, and takes those to a higher level. The Insignia Grand Sport will set new standards for design, efficiency, technology and connectivity when it debuts next year at the Geneva Motor Show.”

DESIGN

The Monza Concept was the inspiration behind the interior and exterior design.

Despite a largely unchanged length compared to its predecessor, the new generation car has managed to shed around 60kg of weight from its body-in-white alone. In total, the new car weighs up to 175kg less than the outgoing model.

Its roof is 29mm lower and its track has increased by 11mm. The overhangs have been reduced considerably and the wheelbase enlarged by 92mm.

The prominent grille and the slim-line headlamps enhance the wide horizontal design of the front end and provide it with a bold appearance. The grille sits lower than on the outgoing model and further emphasises its solid stance. What Vauxhall calls a “sweepspear” feature starts in the front door and gives the impression that the Insignia Grand Sport is always ready to pounce, which is another nod to the athletic lightness of the Monza Concept.

The side window graphics feature an upper chrome strip, rather than a full-chrome treatment, and the coupé-like roofline graphically pulls the car down and emphasises its stretched appearance. The “blade” light catcher in the lower doors pulls attention rearwards. Clear and simple lines at the rear combined with the double-wing LED signature also give the car a wider appearance. The newly-designed high-mounted LED stop lamp has been integrated into the roofline. It helps to give the rear end of the Insignia Grand Sport a more high-tech look that is often found on premium brands. A further advantage of this sporty body design is that the newcomer has an exemplary drag factor of 0.26 making it one of the most aerodynamic vehicles in its class.

“In its proportions as well as in each detail, we wanted the new Insignia Grand Sport to deliver an upscale quality feel,” said Brit Mark Adams, Vauxhall/Opel Vice President Design Europe. “Its design combines flowing lines and subtle surfaces with crisp, precise lines to exaggerate its dramatic proportions: it looks longer, lower and wider than it actually is, and it definitely looks upscale. Every design feature conveys technical know-how and the utmost precision. The new Insignia Grand Sport is an excellent value proposition with the aura of a car from the premium, upper class.”

The attention to the smallest detail is also tangible inside the vehicle. Clean lines, pleasant surfaces and first-class craftsmanship also provide a feeling of elegance and lightness. The cockpit is fully aligned to the driver who sits 3cm lower than previously. In addition, the driver is integrated better and gets a completely new driving experience. The centre console provides additional support, the instruments face the driver and all controls can easily be reached. All this results in a position similar to the one provided in a competition touring car. The frameless touchscreen of the IntelliLink infotainment system exudes a sophisticated and technical charm. Furthermore, the system is much more intuitive to use than before. Apart from the driver, all other occupants of the Grand Sport also benefit from the new design and the reworked proportions of the car. The extended wheelbase gives passengers in the rear more space.

PROPULSION TECHNOLOGY

The Insignia Grand Sport will be available with a wide range of turbocharged engines and transmissions when it is officially launched next year. The highly efficient eight-speed automatic transmission is new to the line-up. It impresses with class-leading shift quality. The gear ratios have been extended and shifts are extremely smooth and hardly noticeable. Simultaneously the car accelerates eagerly – even at low engine speeds. The eight-speed automatic transmission, which will initially only be available in combination with all-wheel drive, is friction-optimised and improves efficiency.

New intelligent all-wheel drive

Two electrically controlled multi-plate clutches replace the rear axle differential. For the first time, it will provide an all-wheel drive Vauxhall with torque vectoring – the best way to transmit power to the road, even if it is wet, icy or snowy. The vehicle receives steering impulses via the active, controlled torque distribution to the individual wheel. For example, when cornering, additional torque is transmitted to the outside rear wheel, enabling the Insignia Grand Sport to corner more precisely. The system reacts within a split-second when the accelerator is pressed, keeping the car more stable and easier to control in every situation.

The further improved FlexRide chassis provides the basis for optimal, situation-based driving behaviour. It adapts the dampers, steering, throttle response and shift points (on automatics) independently or based on the modes ‘Standard’, ‘Sport’ or ‘Tour’, which can be selected by the driver. Depending on the selected mode, steering and throttle response are more direct and the ESP anti-skid system intervenes earlier or later. The new central ‘Drive Mode Control’ software is the heart and soul of the adaptive chassis. It continuously analyses the information provided by the sensors and settings and recognises the individual driving style.

DRIVING ASSISTANCE SYSTEMS

No other model in the segment offers such a wide range of intelligent technologies as the new edition of the Vauxhall flagship.

One of the highlights is the next generation of Vauxhall’s innovative and award-winning IntelliLux LED matrix light. It now has 32 LED segments – twice as many as in the Astra – that are all integrated in the new slimmer headlamps of the Insignia. The increased number of LED elements enables the various light patterns to adapt to the prevailing traffic situation even more precisely and the transitions between the modes are more seamless. This results in an improvement of both the quality of light distribution and light intensity. To improve visibility even further while driving through curves on full high beam, the engineers added a new function to the new Insignia’s IntelliLux LED matrix headlights. The light intensity at the inner matrix segments rises according to steering angle in order to increase the illumination of the curve. In addition, a further high-beam spotlight provides additional illumination at full high-beam for up to 400 meters.

Additional driver assistance systems include:

• Head-up-Display: Information on speed, traffic signs, set speed of speed limiter or navigation direction is projected onto the windscreen and in the driver’s direct line of sight ensuring that the eyes remain on the road.
• Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC), which measures the distance to vehicle in front and adapts the speed accordingly. ACC will initiate automatic emergency braking if the distance decreases abruptly.
• Lane Keep Assist with Lane Departure Warning. Provides gentle steering wheel movements (and LDW alerts if necessary) to help drivers avoid accidents due to unintentionally drifting out of their lane.
• Rear Cross Traffic Alert. The system uses radar sensors in the rear bumper to detect objects coming from up to 20 meters at 90 degrees from the left or right side behind the vehicle.

COMFORT AND INFOTAINMENT

Vauxhall is still one of the few manufacturers to offer seats certified by “Aktion Gesunder Rücken” (Campaign for Healthy Backs). The premium ergonomic seats in the Insignia offer a unique combination of side bolster settings, massage, memory and ventilation functions in addition to the standard setting possibilities. Passenger in the rear can also look forward to more comfort with the two outside seats being available with optional seat heating. Elsewhere, the heated windscreen guarantees good visibility quickly on cold winter days. In addition, keyless “Open & Start” comes as standard on all trim levels and enables comfortable access to the vehicle.

Great entertainment and outstanding connectivity, both typical for Vauxhall, are provided by the latest Apple CarPlay and Android Auto compatible IntelliLink systems. And while the smartphone is seamlessly integrated into the vehicle’s infotainment it can also be charged wirelessly without the use of a cable. The ground-breaking connectivity and service assistant Vauxhall OnStar is also on board, offering services ranging from Automatic Crash Response to Stolen Vehicle Assistance. A new concierge service will be launched together with the Insignia Grand Sport, enabling its occupants to ask OnStar advisors to select a hotel and proceed to room reservation. Furthermore, up to seven devices can be connected to the Wi-Fi Hotspot.

Next-Generation Holden Commodore Breaks Cover – Brings Premium Technology To The People

• First images of Holden’s cutting-edge Next Generation Commodore released  
• Commodore takes technology usually seen only in high-end premium vehicles and brings it to the people
• Most advanced Commodore ever includes: autonomous emergency braking, adaptive suspension, 360-degree camera, adaptive cruise control and matrix lighting
• V6 flagship boasts 230kW and 370Nm, world-first ‘Twinster’ all-wheel drive system and 9-speed transmission for the first time ever on a Holden  
• Next-generation Holden Commodore on sale in 2018 

Holden has today revealed first images and more details of the all-new Commodore ahead of its Australian launch early in 2018. The next-gen Commodore takes cutting-edge safety, driving and infotainment technology and makes it available for today’s Australians, everywhere. The next-generation Holden Commodore is democratizing technology.

Now with images of the next Commodore breaking cover, Australia gets its first look at the sleek and sophisticated design that will be hitting Australian roads in 2018. Designed in Germany by the Opel team with input from GM Holden’s team, the new Commodore takes the best of Europe and makes it great for Australia.

Building on information released last month regarding the next-generation Commodore, Holden has today confirmed a raft of premium technologies will make Commodore the most technologically-advanced Holden ever. From potentially life-saving safety technology features, to active driving technology and seamless infotainment, the all-new Commodore will make driving safer, easier, more involving and more connected than ever before for Australian customers.

“Customers are expecting more of their vehicles than ever before,” said Holden’s Executive Director of Sales, Peter Keley. “The all-new 2018 Commodore redefines the level of technology people can expect, and how tech can help our customers be safer, more involved and more connected than ever before. The Commodore combines technology across a number of areas in a way that you would usually only find in high-end prestige vehicles and makes it available for everyday Australians. Combined with the howling V6, world-first all-wheel-drive system and all the on-road performance you expect from the Commodore, this is a car that ticks all the boxes and more,” said Mr Keley.

Going on sale in Australia early in 2018, the new Commodore range will be headlined by the V6 flagship model, the first ever imported Commodore will honour the iconic nameplate by being the most technologically-advanced Holden ever. With a cutting-edge all-wheel-drive system channeling 230 kilowatts and 370 Newton metres to the road, combined with adaptive suspension technology, a company-first nine-speed automatic transmission and torque-vectoring all-wheel drive, the next-generation Commodore will continue to cement Holden’s reputation for class-leading driving dynamics and on-road refinement.

Jeremy Tassone, Holden’s Engineering Group Manager for Vehicle Development, said the technical underpinnings of the next Commodore also represents Holden’s commitment to bringing the best vehicles from around the word to Australian customers.

“From its cutting-edge all-wheel-drive system, to nine-speed transmission and adaptive suspension, this is a true driver’s car in the way Commodore has always been. We’re taking the best of Europe and making it even better for our Australian customers. I can’t wait for our customers to get behind the wheel”

In addition to the Commodore’s unique all-wheel-drive system, further details surrounding the ‘FlexRide’ suspension system have also been confirmed. The continuously adaptable FlexRide chassis electro-hydraulically adapts the dampers to the road and the driving conditions 500 times per second or 30,000 times per minutes.

Additionally, the driver can save personal preferences for the steering characteristics, throttle response and dampers via the ‘Sport’ button.

• ‘Standard’: The automatic control selects the best set-up based on the information collected by the vehicle sensors.
• ‘Tour’: Comfortable chassis configuration, and throttle response for best fuel consumption and most relaxed touring. The right mode for relaxing long-distance drives.
• ‘Sport’: Brake dive is reduced, flat and responsive chassis control at high speeds and the throttle and steering provide more direct feedback.

The new central ‘Drive Mode Control’ software is the heart and soul of the adaptive chassis. It continuously analyses the information provided by the sensors and setting and recognizes the individual driving style. The individual systems are then optimized for the best traction and road position.

Exterior Design:

The design of the next Commodore is based on the ‘Monza’ Concept car, created by the Opel Design team in Germany. The prominent front grille and the slim-line headlamps are directly inspired by the Monza Concept enhance the wide horizontal gesture of the front end and provide it with a bold appearance. The grille sits lower than on the outgoing model and further emphasises the solid stance.

The side window graphics feature with an upper chrome strip, rather than a full-chrome treatment, and the coupé-like roofline graphically pull the car down and emphasize its stretched appearance. The ‘blade’ light catcher in the lower doors pulls attention rearwards. The new Commodore is as sleek as it looks: it has an exemplary drag factor of 0.26 making it one of the most aerodynamic vehicles in its class.

At the rear, clear and simple lines combined with the slim, precise double-wing LED signature also give the car a wider appearance. The newly designed center high-mounted LED stop lamp has been integrated into the roofline. It helps to give the rear end a more high-tech look typical of premium brands’ vehicles.

Interior Design: 

The attention to the smallest detail is also evident inside the Commodore. The cockpit is organized along horizontal lines, enhancing the feeling of elegant lightness and of space. The cockpit is orientated to the driver for a sportier feeling. The generous center console that further embraces the driver provides the feeling of sitting in a much larger class of vehicle. Clean lines, modern surfaces and first-class craftsmanship with soft-feel materials at all touch points contribute to a feeling of elegance and grace.

Infotainment system design:

Equal attention has been paid to the controls and the infotainment interface. The frameless touchscreen of the infotainment system exudes a sophisticated and technical charm. Many functions are controlled via the touchscreen in order to simplify the interface, while three clusters of buttons have been designed to allow quick and intuitive operations: the upper ones for the major functions of the infotainment system, the central ones for climate and heating controls, the lower ones for driver assistant controls. This very clear set-up avoids drivers and passengers having to dive into sub-menus on the touchscreen to find the most essential functions.

NEXT-GENERATION COMMODORE KEY HIGHLIGHTS:

• Cutting-edge driver assistance systems and technology:
  • Autonomous Emergency Braking
  • Adaptive Cruise Control
  • Speed Limit Cruise Control
  • Lane Departure Warning
  • Lane Keep Assist
  • Forward Collision Alert
  • Side Blind-Zone Alert
  • Rear Cross-Traffic Alert
  • 360-degree Camera
• Next-generation comfort and convenience technologies:
  • Massage Seats
  • Rear one-touch folding seats
  • Heated Front and Rear seats
  • Ventilated Front seats
  • Express up/down all windows
  • Wagon power lift-gate
  • Active Noise Cancellation

Program overview: 

• Next-generation Commodore built in Germany on all-new, global E2 architecture shared with Opel Insignia
• Lightweight construction methods result in approximately 200kg weight savings compared to current Commodore
• Flagship model offers V6 AWD drivetrain with Holden-first 9-speed transmission
• V6 engine delivers 230kW / 370Nm while being incredibly efficient thanks to Stop-Start technology and Active Fuel Management
• 2.0T petrol and 2.0T diesel front-wheel drive models also coming to Australia
• Liftback and Sportwagon body-styles
• Cutting-edge, adaptive all-wheel-drive system with torque vectoring and twin-clutch (‘Twinster’) rear differential system
• Adaptive ‘Flexride’ suspension system offers three settings: ‘Tour’, ‘Standard’ and ‘Sport’ 
• Next-generation matrix lighting system
• Infotainment includes:
  • Apple Car Play and Android Auto
  • 8-inch configurable LCD instrument display,
  • next-gen head-up display

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[daves87rs]

Sweet! God looking cars here.....

[ocnblu]

Will make a real nice Buick, Opel and Vauxhall.  But Holden?  Hmmm...

[NINETY EIGHT REGENCY]

 

[A Horse With No Name]

35 minutes ago, NINETY EIGHT REGENCY said:

 

I think Buick just pulled ahead of Lincoln, Lexus, Acura, Infinity, and BMW....this thing won me over.....absolutely drop dead gorgeous.

I tend to like both foreign and domestic cars, but if this is the kind of stuff GM is going to bring us, methinks wen will be seeing domestics in my driveway.

Would have to move the wood shop from the garage to the basement though, because there is no way I would let THAT sit out during an Ohio winter!

Damn, Damn, Damn, Damnit man...if Gm is not careful, they will eclipse the gorgeous cars of the 50's and 60's...and I am NOT being sarcastic.

Although I may be getting old...this excited about a Buick?

5 hours ago, daves87rs said:

Sweet! God looking cars here.....

Ohh absolutely....lots to be proud of here....lots!

2 hours ago, ocnblu said:

Will make a real nice Buick, Opel and Vauxhall.  But Holden?  Hmmm...

You could name it Gumby the stick figure and I would take it....Yes please to more of this from GM!

[G. David Felt]

4 hours ago, ocnblu said:

Will make a real nice Buick, Opel and Vauxhall.  But Holden?  Hmmm...

Have to totally agree with Blu here and I have raised eyebrows about the Holden. I wonder how much in lost sales they will have with a FWD versus RWD small models of their car line.

On the flip side, these are nice looking auto's that should do well in the market place. 

I just wish the Coupe 4 door sedan look would end. So tired of that look.

[Guest Wings4Life(BANNED)]

I see a lot of Mazda here.

 

http://mv-tuning.ru/upload/iblock/e9a/e9a1ed0fc622184d78379597474952b5.jpg

[Stew]

Like them.  i hope the Regal comes with a standard 2.0T and optional 3.6 V6.  Offering the 6 would really differentiate it from the Malibu. 

[William Maley]

4 hours ago, dfelt said:

Have to totally agree with Blu here and I have raised eyebrows about the Holden. I wonder how much in lost sales they will have with a FWD versus RWD small models of their car line.

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The Commodore has been losing sales since 2011. First to compacts like the Mazda3 and Toyota Corolla. Now, it's the likes of the Toyota Hilux and Ford Ranger. Here are the top 10 best selling models for November 2016

1. Toyota HiLux — 3839
2. Ford Ranger — 3410
3. Toyota Corolla — 3245
4. Toyota Camry — 2957
5. Mazda 3 — 2877
6. Hyundai i30 — 2514
7. Holden Commodore — 2088
8. Hyundai Accent — 1995
9. Mazda CX-5 — 1956
10. Nissan X-Trail and Navara — 1938

Going with front-wheel drive isn't going to affect Commodore sales. The trucks and crossovers are the ones eating into the sales.

[G. David Felt]

 @William Maley Awesome, thank you, that helps clarify things greatly.

[ocnblu]

Well the Commodore has gotten cute and citified over the last few yerrs too.  Do they even make a base Ute with exterior load tie-down hooks any more?

[G. David Felt]

5 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

Well the Commodore has gotten cute and citified over the last few yerrs too.  Do they even make a base Ute with exterior load tie-down hooks any more?

So much to love about what is on the Holden web site including the Ute.

https://www.holden.com.au/

Love.  their recordings of the engine and the black edition.

[Suaviloquent]

I'm sorry I don't like this car. Even if it drives great, better than Lincolns or Acuras that's not the major selling point. And the interior sure isn't better than a Lincoln MKZ. since this interior design and materials featured will just be an in-between of the Envision and Lacrosse.

 

I do like the way it looks, really quite a lot. 

 

All I see is a Mazdafied Malibu, and Buick's supposed most opulent sedan, the Lacrosse does not have a class leading interior for the price. And at the auto shows, I was disappointed that a Kia outdoes Buick in terms of top-end interior quality.

[A Horse With No Name]

11 hours ago, Suaviloquent said:

I'm sorry I don't like this car. Even if it drives great, better than Lincolns or Acuras that's not the major selling point. And the interior sure isn't better than a Lincoln MKZ. since this interior design and materials featured will just be an in-between of the Envision and Lacrosse.

 

I do like the way it looks, really quite a lot. 

 

All I see is a Mazdafied Malibu, and Buick's supposed most opulent sedan, the Lacrosse does not have a class leading interior for the price. And at the auto shows, I was disappointed that a Kia outdoes Buick in terms of top-end interior quality.

Civil disagreement...could someone provide me with an internet link so I could return to C and G....?

In all seriousness, I prefer athletic exterior styling, and this car looks more athletic to me than many of its competitors, and also avoids the styling excess of the cars I mentioned. YMMV.

I find the Mazda 6 to be the best looking car in the midsize class, the Impala to be the best looking full size ordinary sedan, and the Jetta to be the best looking compact.

This vehicle follows along that styling theme, athletic but not overdone, and I really, really like it.

Also, we can disagree again on Kia....the whole build quality of the car seems rather cheap, especially if you sit in or drive one two or three years old.

The better interior quality comes across to me as a hail Mary pass because they didn't get the rest of the vehicle right, not as a product I would like to buy.

Agree that Buick needs to Continent to bring it....! Current Regal is way past sell by date, and while I like a lot of things GM is doing, letting cars rot on the vine without refresh is GM slipping back into its old ways, the ones that got them into trouble in the first place.

18 hours ago, Stew said:

Like them.  i hope the Regal comes with a standard 2.0T and optional 3.6 V6.  Offering the 6 would really differentiate it from the Malibu. 

Agree completely.  Malibu really needs a premium interior option and a V6, but then it would cannibalize Impala sales.

But there are those of us who live in urban areas and really prefer a smaller footprint for the car, as it makes it easier to park.

[A Horse With No Name]

On 12/7/2016 at 2:36 AM, daves87rs said:

Sweet! God looking cars here.....

Absolutely!
 

Everything I said in the other thread about GM and Ford deserving an atta boy...lots of impressive product coming out...

[daves87rs]

5 hours ago, A Horse With No Name said:

Absolutely!
 

Everything I said in the other thread about GM and Ford deserving an atta boy...lots of impressive product coming out...

Cars are going to be damn sexy when they get here.....between Buick and Lincoln, there is going to be some swagger......

[A Horse With No Name]

13 minutes ago, daves87rs said:

Cars are going to be damn sexy when they get here.....between Buick and Lincoln, there is going to be some swagger......

Be nice to see, actually!

[oldshurst442]

I can see Buick's next marketing campaign.

 

[Suaviloquent]

I'm not saying this is a badge-engineered car, but for all intents and purposes, THIS is the more premium Malibu that will get AWD and possibly a more powerful tune of the turbo engine or a V6 option.

 

And it's Buick. I think the exterior sure looks great. But the last Insignia/Regal really did have a very original look to them, I never considered any one design detail out of place, except the stupid ventiports that every Buick simple needs to have, right?

[oldshurst442]

I dont like it.

It looks....odd.

Besides having a look reminiscing of a new Mazda6, which is a good thing, some proportions on this car look bizarre to me. 

I dont like the way the headlights are placed on the car.

I am all for more interior leg room, especially in the rear as compared to the old Regal but I feel the longer wheelbase and the way the shape of the car is with the location of the headlights just makes this car look strange to me.

[daves87rs]

2 hours ago, oldshurst442 said:

I can see Buick's next marketing campaign.

 

Just maybe!

[Suaviloquent]

1 hour ago, oldshurst442 said:

I dont like it.

It looks....odd.

Besides having a look reminiscing of a new Mazda6, which is a good thing, some proportions on this car look bizarre to me. 

I dont like the way the headlights are placed on the car.

I am all for more interior leg room, especially in the rear as compared to the old Regal but I feel the longer wheelbase and the way the shape of the car is with the location of the headlights just makes this car look strange to me.

I'm sure it'll be a fine car, and give plenty of value and excellent engineering for the price. But it kind of lacks the emotional appeal, I was expecting it to make. Or maybe I'm being just too harsh on what is, on all accounts a gorgeous car. Fully would lick 10/10. It does reminds me of the Opel Monza concept. Maybe Opel will make a liftback too, and I think that should be a Regal variant offered in the U.S. Because that is surely something that will make Buick look more youthful. Audi A7, Tesla S, Panamera, BMW 4 Series Gran Coupe. And you can always just upsell the Lacrosse to those who came to Buick because they wanted the classic Buick experience.

And with the decklid being so short here, it already looks like a liftback.

[oldshurst442]

5 minutes ago, Suaviloquent said:

I'm sure it'll be a fine car, and give plenty of value and excellent engineering for the price. But it kind of lacks the emotional appeal, I was expecting it to make. Or maybe I'm being just too harsh on what is, on all accounts a gorgeous car. Fully would lick 10/10. It does reminds me of the Opel Monza concept. Maybe Opel will make a liftback too, and I think that should be a Regal variant offered in the U.S. Because that is surely something that will make Buick look more youthful. Audi A7, Tesla S, Panamera, BMW 4 Series Gran Coupe. And you can always just upsell the Lacrosse to those who came to Buick because they wanted the classic Buick experience.

And with the decklid being so short here, it already looks like a liftback.

I share your thoughts.

It will be a fine car. Buick and Chevy havent disappointed the last couple of years.

It does have a certain charisma. Ill give it that but it doesnt tug at any of my emotions like this generation does.

I think I prefer the next gen Lacrosse over this.

Who knows? It might grow on me as its not a bad looking car. Maybe its because I STILL like  the  current Regal's looks that I secretly dont want it to go away.

46 minutes ago, daves87rs said:

Just maybe!

it was meant to be sarcastic as I think it looks like a Mazda6.

HOOWEVER, looking at my prediction as a serious tone, it might not be a bad thing to try to emulate a certain luxury version of Mazda's Zoom Zoom campaign...

[Cory Wolfe]

Very good looking car. I can't wait to see this wearing Buick badges. I want that wagon in the spy shots. 

[regfootball]

SHOULD BUICK CHANGE IT FROM 'REGAL' TO 'INSIGNIA' IN THE U.S. ALSO?

[FordCosworth]

Ah...How about Buick Regal6?

 

 

[G. David Felt]

13 minutes ago, regfootball said:

SHOULD BUICK CHANGE IT FROM 'REGAL' TO 'INSIGNIA' IN THE U.S. ALSO?

Nope, Insignia is a cheap ass made line of Chinese TV's that have terrible quality. No need to have any connection there.

[ocnblu]

6 hours ago, dfelt said:

Nope, Insignia is a cheap ass made line of Chinese TV's that have terrible quality. No need to have any connection there.

Don't tell my mom that.  I bought her one a few munts back and she loves it so far.

[G. David Felt]

2 hours ago, ocnblu said:

Don't tell my mom that.  I bought her one a few munts back and she loves it so far.

Cool, the TV's either work or they do not per the massive filings against the company with the gov. Glad you got one that works well. our Mums deserve a decent TV.

[regfootball]

most of the Insignia TV's at Best Buy are LG products is what i recall.  Nowadays though, who knows,

[ocnblu]

Picked it up @ Best Buy.

[Suaviloquent]

One last quip about TV's. Still rocking a Sony XBR2 Silver, huge ass bezels and porky flat screen TV from 2006. It still works.

 

Besides, who watches TV anyways? Most often, it's just a decoration to signify you're somewhat civilized. TV/monitor same thing.