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Pricing for the 2017 Lincoln Continental has been announced and it will begin at $45,485 with destination. This will net you the Premiere front-wheel drive with a 3.7L V6 with 300 horsepower. Standard equipment for the Premiere includes leather, 10-way power front seats, 10-speaker audio system, HID headlights, 18-inch wheels, and remote start. All-wheel drive will add $2,000 to the base price.

 

Here is how the remainder of the 2017 Continental lineup breaks down:

  • Select: Have the choice of the 3.7L V6 or 2.7L twin-turbo V6 producing 335 horsepower. Features such as hands-free powered trunk lid, soft-closing doors, 19-inch wheels, and premium leather upholstery. Select prices range from $48,440 for the 3.7 V6 front-wheel drive model to $52,690 for the 2.7 twin-turbo V6 all-wheel drive.
  • Reserve: Adds the twin-turbo 3.0L V6 with 400 horsepower and all-wheel drive as a powertrain option. 24-way power front seats with ventilation, tri-zone climate control, and power rear sunshade. $54,840 gets you into the 3.7L V6 front-wheel drive Reserve. To get the 3.0L twin-turbo V6 engine, be prepared to drop $60,105.
  • Black Label: The top of the line trim comes with 20-inch wheels, LED headlights, Revel audio system, and the choice of three different “Designer Themes,” that brings their own color schemes. Black Label also gives the owner access to various “privileges,” such as concierge service at the dealer, remote delivery of the vehicle within 30 Miles of select dealers, complimentary car washes, complimentary annual detailing services, and the Culinary Collection - a 'curated' list of restaurants in the U.S. that will provide an “at-your-service” experience. The collection gives the owner one complimentary dinner for two at one of the restaurants on the list. Pricing starts at $63,840 for the 2.7 twin-turbo V6 front-wheel drive model and climbs to $69,105 for the 3.0L twin-turbo V6.
When compared to its closest competitor, the Cadillac CT6, the Continental undercuts by $9,005.

 

Source: Automobile Magazine, Automotive News (Subscription Required)



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The way I'd look at it.. is for just $5000 more.. I can get a RWD based CT6 TTV6 with 400HP and 400lbs versus a FWD based Continental TTV6 with the same.. but I'd be getting a Cadillac.. and not a Lincoln.  Hell.. In truth.. I'd still get the more luxo looking XTS over the Continental.. and that thru the trims

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They are targeted at two different clientele though. One who wants a sporty car and one who wants a plush car. Do we know the interior measurements yet? I wouldn't doubt at all if the Lincoln being FWD based has a more spacious interior. Just two different cars targeted at two different buyers. 

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They are targeted at two different clientele though. One who wants a sporty car and one who wants a plush car. Do we know the interior measurements yet? I wouldn't doubt at all if the Lincoln being FWD based has a more spacious interior. Just two different cars targeted at two different buyers. 

 

 

 

What are the exact interior specs of the XTS vs CT6 vs Continental? From what I've read they arent far off in any capacity.  I don't think the CT6 competes with either the XTS or the Continental. The Lincoln's pricing is directly taking from the XTS

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They are targeted at two different clientele though. One who wants a sporty car and one who wants a plush car. Do we know the interior measurements yet? I wouldn't doubt at all if the Lincoln being FWD based has a more spacious interior. Just two different cars targeted at two different buyers. 

 

 

 

What are the exact interior specs of the XTS vs CT6 vs Continental? From what I've read they arent far off in any capacity.  I don't think the CT6 competes with either the XTS or the Continental. The Lincoln's pricing is directly taking from the XTS

 

I honestly have no clue... at least until we get some more numbers on the Contiental we won't be able to compare them. 

 

Yeah I don't think the CT6 competes at all either, imo. It's a step up. 

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I'm guessing the bulk of sales will be the fleet version, because at higher price points the CT6 is the superior choice.

 

 

I'm guess that as well. Ford trying to get back in to the Black Car business. I will correct U on at least one aspect tho.. the CT6.. is the superior vehicle at all price points IMO. The XTS.. is what the Lincoln people apparently bench-marked.. and I'm reserving judgement as to whether they did a better XTS or an, at best, equal one. 

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Since my reply to this post on the home page vanished, I guess I'll leave this here, but in cliff notes this time-

 

1)There should be no 3.7 FWD model. Way too much overlap with the MKZ.

 

2)There really shouldn't be a FWD model at all.

 

3)Are they putting 335 hp in a FWD variant?!?!

 

4)To be a real luxury brand, they should be treating all customers like Black Label buyers. Except maybe the food thing.

 

5)The Black Label better be damn nice for 70K.

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I question if this is really a competitor to the CT6 or will even in Black Level Trim be that luxurious. 

 

I do like what I am seeing at the gallery

 

Continental Gallery

 

So far, hate me if you want but I have not been impressed with Lincoln fit n finish and interior room.

 

For the pricing, they better be delivering on the goods otherwise this will blow up in their face.

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Do we know the interior measurements yet? I wouldn't doubt at all if the Lincoln being FWD based has a more spacious interior. Just two different cars targeted at two different buyers. 

 

I just checked Lincoln's media site and they don't have anything on the Continental aside from the press release for Detroit.

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Overpriced. The fwd fleet version should have been $39,995, the 400 HP model $55k and the black label $60k. I expect slow sales on this one.

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Posted

Inexpensive...? What? 

 

That was back when Lincoln had some credibility. 

 

It has to be "cheaper" now to sell. The Lincoln name isn't the greatest at the moment in the automotive world.

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I don't call $45k for a Lincoln Fusion with the same 3.7 V6 from a Taurus a good deal.   Even worse is the $55k Reserve trim still has the 3.7 V6.   At least make the 2.7 V6 standard at $45k price point and up.  If they want to offer a 3.7 V6 or even a turbo 4 to the fleet market for $39,995 go on ahead.  

 

Problem he is they aren't selling handling or performance, nor are they selling badge or image or prestige.  All they have to sell is quite and comfortable interior.  At least with the 2.7 turbo V6 it would have low end torque so you could drive around at a low engine speed and the car would seem quiet and torquey, and have a bit of a premium feel.  Cranking that 3.7 V6 up to 4,000 rpm to move all that mass isn't refined luxury.

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I don't call $45k for a Lincoln Fusion with the same 3.7 V6 from a Taurus a good deal.   Even worse is the $55k Reserve trim still has the 3.7 V6.   At least make the 2.7 V6 standard at $45k price point and up.  If they want to offer a 3.7 V6 or even a turbo 4 to the fleet market for $39,995 go on ahead.  

 

Problem he is they aren't selling handling or performance, nor are they selling badge or image or prestige.  All they have to sell is quite and comfortable interior.  At least with the 2.7 turbo V6 it would have low end torque so you could drive around at a low engine speed and the car would seem quiet and torquey, and have a bit of a premium feel.  Cranking that 3.7 V6 up to 4,000 rpm to move all that mass isn't refined luxury.

 

 

Fusion? 

 

And that 3.7L will have more HP and at least the same torque rating ( not sure on RPM or delivery, just like unsure on " all that mass " as you put it because nothing has ever been released ) as the the 4.6L InTech V8 from that 1996 Continental, ( 260/260 ) while only offering a 4spd auto and weighing in at 3,900lbs. 

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It's priced like the S90 and the Audi A6.

 

It does not have the cachet to be priced like that. Then again - Lincoln is making this for China. Where brands like Cadillac, Lincoln. Mercedes - they all have very high brand cachet.

 

FWD available is kinda crummy, but then again, you can get FWD in the XTS.

 

Like I mentioned before, there's a healthy price gap between this and the CT6. And luxury buyers are not buying RWD sedans like they used to - all of them are down recently. 

 

I think it's got a fair shot - but it better do damn well in press reviews. And the $70k version better be good.

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Posted (edited)

I'm guessing the bulk of sales will be the fleet version, because at higher price points the CT6 is the superior choice.

I'm guess that as well. Ford trying to get back in to the Black Car business. I will correct U on at least one aspect tho.. the CT6.. is the superior vehicle at all price points IMO. The XTS.. is what the Lincoln people apparently bench-marked.. and I'm reserving judgement as to whether they did a better XTS or an, at best, equal one.

Based on the fit/finish of the inner door panel on the turntable model they had at the Edmonton show I'm guessing that the quality woes that plagued the MXZ initially are still present.

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The wobble in that stitching was apparent from nearly ten feet away. Ouch

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The interior doesn't even seem all that great. They are asking Mercedes E-class money, for a car based on the Fusion, good luck.

What it shares its bones with is irrelevant. Don't know why you want to beat a dead horse when Mercedes is going to the same thing with their new Nissan Pick..., I mean pick up.

Oh and that E Class starts at $7k higher and quickly shoots to a price that goes far beyond a top tier Continental.

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The interior doesn't even seem all that great.   They are asking Mercedes E-class money, for a car based on the Fusion, good luck.

Yeah except it isn't competing with a sport sedan.

 

Of course nothing American has great interiors because they aren't German. *sarcasm* 

 

What's funny is for $7000 you get 2hp, fake leather(MB Tex bull$h!), no keyless ignition like the Lincoln comes with, No heated seats like the Lincoln comes with, No rear view Camera like the Lincoln comes with, 17 inch wheels(Lincoln comes with 18's) 

 

Yeah, what a bargain the E Class is.  :scratchchin:

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The interior doesn't even seem all that great.   They are asking Mercedes E-class money, for a car based on the Fusion, good luck.

Yeah except it isn't competing with a sport sedan.

 

Of course nothing American has great interiors because they aren't German. *sarcasm* 

 

What's funny is for $7000 you get 2hp, fake leather(MB Tex bull$h!), no keyless ignition like the Lincoln comes with, No heated seats like the Lincoln comes with, No rear view Camera like the Lincoln comes with, 17 inch wheels(Lincoln comes with 18's) 

 

Yeah, what a bargain the E Class is.  :scratchchin:

 

Exactly! 

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NO NO NO!!! What U two FAIL to realize is that German Luxury.. the smugness of it all.. the pretentiousness.. is about being a customer who will absolutely feel ingratiated to the manufacturer for giving U LESS.. for MORE. It is a given.. it is written.. in the Holy Journal of European Luxury.. that

 

"Thou shall not call it Luxury.. unless its Ala Carte "

 

"Thou shall not call it Luxury.. unless the vehicle is always advertised and held high by the most expensive trim, but is always purchased in base form"

 

"Thou shall not call it Luxury.. unless buying one requires from its supposedly, but fake, affluent buyers... a 96 Month Finance approval"

 

"Thou shall not call it Luxury.. unless the great engineering also requires constant maintenance, and even then get rid of it on day 2 of warranty end"

 

"Thou shall not call it Luxury.. unless the styling is complete bull$h! and boring, looking no more distinct than a random Jellybean"

 

"Thou shall not call it Luxury.. unless the dealership looks like a women's make-up store"

 

" Thou shall not call it Luxury.. unless U leave outta said dealership after purchase with your rectum turned inside out and hanging like an elephants trunk.. cause baby.. U just got f@#kED.. with no KY, no Vaseline.. just some old sandpaper they had lying around"

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NO NO NO!!! What U two FAIL to realize is that German Luxury.. the smugness of it all.. the pretentiousness.. is about being a customer who will absolutely feel ingratiated to the manufacturer for giving U LESS.. for MORE. It is a given.. it is written.. in the Holy Journals of European Luxury.. that

 

"Thou shall not call it Luxury.. unless its Ala Carte"

 

"Thou shall not call it Luxury.. unless the great engineering also requires constant maintenance, and even then get rid of it on day 2 of warranty end"

 

"Thou shall not call it Luxury.. unless the styling is complete bull$h! and boring, looking no more distinct than a random Jellybean"

 

"Thou shall not call it Luxury.. unless the dealership looks like a women's make-up store"

 

" Thou shall not call it Luxury.. unless U leave outta said dealership after purchase with your rectum turned inside out and hanging like an elephants trunk.. cause baby.. U just got f@#kED.. with no KY, no Vaseline.. just some old sandpaper they had lying around"

Hahahahaha   :rofl:

 

 

The interior doesn't even seem all that great.   They are asking Mercedes E-class money, for a car based on the Fusion, good luck.

Yeah except it isn't competing with a sport sedan.

 

Of course nothing American has great interiors because they aren't German. *sarcasm* 

 

What's funny is for $7000 you get 2hp, fake leather(MB Tex bull$h!), no keyless ignition like the Lincoln comes with, No heated seats like the Lincoln comes with, No rear view Camera like the Lincoln comes with, 17 inch wheels(Lincoln comes with 18's) 

 

Yeah, what a bargain the E Class is.  :scratchchin:

 

Exactly! 

 

What really grinds my gears is the fake leather in a car that STARTS at FIFTY THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS. That's just insane and complete bull$h!. 

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NO NO NO!!! What U two FAIL to realize is that German Luxury.. the smugness of it all.. the pretentiousness.. is about being a customer who will absolutely feel ingratiated to the manufacturer for giving U LESS.. for MORE. It is a given.. it is written.. in the Holy Journals of European Luxury.. that

 

"Thou shall not call it Luxury.. unless its Ala Carte"

 

"Thou shall not call it Luxury.. unless the great engineering also requires constant maintenance, and even then get rid of it on day 2 of warranty end"

 

"Thou shall not call it Luxury.. unless the styling is complete bull$h! and boring, looking no more distinct than a random Jellybean"

 

"Thou shall not call it Luxury.. unless the dealership looks like a women's make-up store"

 

" Thou shall not call it Luxury.. unless U leave outta said dealership after purchase with your rectum turned inside out and hanging like an elephants trunk.. cause baby.. U just got f@#kED.. with no KY, no Vaseline.. just some old sandpaper they had lying around"

Hahahahaha   :rofl:

 

 

The interior doesn't even seem all that great.   They are asking Mercedes E-class money, for a car based on the Fusion, good luck.

Yeah except it isn't competing with a sport sedan.

 

Of course nothing American has great interiors because they aren't German. *sarcasm* 

 

What's funny is for $7000 you get 2hp, fake leather(MB Tex bull$h!), no keyless ignition like the Lincoln comes with, No heated seats like the Lincoln comes with, No rear view Camera like the Lincoln comes with, 17 inch wheels(Lincoln comes with 18's) 

 

Yeah, what a bargain the E Class is.  :scratchchin:

 

Exactly! 

 

What really grinds my gears is the fake leather in a car that STARTS at FIFTY THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS. That's just insane and complete bull$h!. 

 

BMW and Mercedes are both extremely guilty of this practice but it is the one thing you won't hear their fans try to defend because it is indefensible.

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It really isn't. 

 

If all I wanted was freakin' leather in my MERCEDES BENZ I have to pay an extra $1,620. It's amazing what their clientele is willing to just piss money on, things that are standard on much lesser vehicles(price).

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All funny stuff, but also remember: Thou shall not call it luxury unless it has been tested on the Nurburgring.

Some people don't care if the leather is real or not, so MB TeX does drip the base price more.

I guess they priced this car pretty close to the XTS, but Lincoln has less credibility than Cadillac and less of a following. This car will struggle to sell 1,000 a month, they will fleet sale and discount the heck of out in year two.

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I have this odd feeling that there has never been an E250 on the Nurburgring.. So the AMG is VERY LIKELY the only version of an E Class that was tested on the 'Ring.

 

Some people don't care if it's RWD or FWD.

 

Yeah it drips the base price to FIFTY THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS and you still don't get real leather. That's such a joke. 

 

They won't have a near 25% off sale like the S Class though. ;) ( That's your bread and butter car too )

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All funny stuff, but also remember: Thou shall not call it luxury unless it has been tested on the Nurburgring.

Some people don't care if the leather is real or not, so MB TeX does drip the base price more.

I guess they priced this car pretty close to the XTS, but Lincoln has less credibility than Cadillac and less of a following. This car will struggle to sell 1,000 a month, they will fleet sale and discount the heck of out in year two.

 

As a Cadillac lover and owner.. I for one love that they can spin circles around the German engineered 3.. no make that 4. Cause I bet good money that I could go out and whip on a 911 with the CTS-V... especially after I've done it several times with the lil ole Stingray

 

 

As far as the Continental.. I think we should wait and see. Ford is banking on a major thing concerning all Luxury buyers on the market these days.. That the car has a.. name and not letters/numbers. Cause that is what makes a luxury car a luxury car :confused0071:

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Interesting how you can find testing on Nuremberg of the S class, C class and of course AMG, but nothing on the E class, or any other. 

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Interesting how you can find testing on Nuremberg of the S class, C class and of course AMG, but nothing on the E class, or any other. 

 

 

The E-Class is the Taxi-cab of Europe... People/Photographers probably aren't interested. I kno I'm not. f@#k Mercedes

 

The whole Fleet of them:

 

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I searched for a late model Cadillac taxi and cannot find one in its home market. Now Smk will tell us that a REAL luxury car maker is one that has a fleet of taxis waiting for U down on the street

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All funny stuff, but also remember: Thou shall not call it luxury unless it has been tested on the Nurburgring.

Some people don't care if the leather is real or not, so MB TeX does drip the base price more.

I guess they priced this car pretty close to the XTS, but Lincoln has less credibility than Cadillac and less of a following. This car will struggle to sell 1,000 a month, they will fleet sale and discount the heck of out in year two.

. Thou cannot also not call a car luxury when leather isn't even standard. Funny how you dodge those little facts that show how gullible most Mercedes buyers are.
Posted

 

All funny stuff, but also remember: Thou shall not call it luxury unless it has been tested on the Nurburgring.

Some people don't care if the leather is real or not, so MB TeX does drip the base price more.

I guess they priced this car pretty close to the XTS, but Lincoln has less credibility than Cadillac and less of a following. This car will struggle to sell 1,000 a month, they will fleet sale and discount the heck of out in year two.

. Thou cannot also not call a car luxury when leather isn't even standard. Funny how you dodge those little facts that show how gullible most Mercedes buyers are.

 

Worded perfectly.

 

If leather is not a STANDARD FEATURE on a car.. it is not luxury. Maybe they make luxurious trims, and in my opinion they do, but not all E Class or C Class cars are luxury automobiles just because they have a nice chassis under the cloth seats. 

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My issue with this setup is that it's bound to be among the slowest in its segment due to weight.  The base V6 is going to be slower than a Taurus V6 and probably the CT6 Turbo-4.  The 2.7 V6 is going to be lower than a CT6 V6 and probably most of the equivalent imports, and even the 400hp job is going to fall behind the CT6, the Koreans, and most of the Euros.

 

And I'm not talking about 0.01 seconds behind like SMK likes to make seem important... it's probably going to be close to a full second behind most of these cars in some matchups.

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Posted

Even the Koreans? Aren't they usually on the overrated engine/optimistic with times? I definitely think the CT6 will be quicker than it but I'm not sure about the Korean jobs.

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I have this odd feeling that there has never been an E250 on the Nurburgring.. So the AMG is VERY LIKELY the only version of an E Class that was tested on the 'Ring.

 

Some people don't care if it's RWD or FWD.

 

Yeah it drips the base price to FIFTY THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS and you still don't get real leather. That's such a joke. 

 

They won't have a near 25% off sale like the S Class though. ;) ( That's your bread and butter car too )

E-class luxury trim testing on the Nurburgring:

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Maybach S600 on Nurburring:

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A GL at the Nurburgring:

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etc, etc

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My issue with this setup is that it's bound to be among the slowest in its segment due to weight.  The base V6 is going to be slower than a Taurus V6 and probably the CT6 Turbo-4.  The 2.7 V6 is going to be lower than a CT6 V6 and probably most of the equivalent imports, and even the 400hp job is going to fall behind the CT6, the Koreans, and most of the Euros.

 

And I'm not talking about 0.01 seconds behind like SMK likes to make seem important... it's probably going to be close to a full second behind most of these cars in some matchups.

The 2.7 V6 probably has decent low end torque, so it might not be that bad.  However I don't think anyone is buying the Continental for speed.  They would be buying it for interior, and unless you pay $65k+ for Revel audio, 30 way seats, leather and fabric upgrades, etc, then you aren't even getting that good of an interior.

 

I think the people spending $60k or more will want some performance, and the people that just want a comfortable interior with no performance are happy with a Lexus ES350 for $43k.   So there in lies the hard sell for Lincoln.

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Interesting how you can find testing on Nuremberg of the S class, C class and of course AMG, but nothing on the E class, or any other. 

 

 

The E-Class is the Taxi-cab of Europe... People/Photographers probably aren't interested. I kno I'm not. f@#k Mercedes

 

The whole Fleet of them:

 

3679105319_99f90e1c4f_o.jpg

 

 

 

 

201403063039-taxipaul.jpg

 

 

I searched for a late model Cadillac taxi and cannot find one in its home market. Now Smk will tell us that a REAL luxury car maker is one that has a fleet of taxis waiting for U down on the street

 

Last one is Greek Taxi.

OPA!

 

 

OH...DONT HATE ME FOR THIS...IM JUST PLAYING DEVIL'S ADVOCATE!!!!

 

The reason why you wont find Cadillac taxis, is because they arent really that tough to take the beating of the rigors of taxi work....but an E Class does it with ease!

 

Greek Taxi story: http://www.leftlanenews.com/greek-taxi-driver-hits-1-million-kilometers-with-2003-mercedes-e-class.html

 

 

Im really with Casa on this....

The E Class is just a German Bel Air/Impala/Caprice/Impala SS

 

I just posted that link to promote anything Greek...I did NOT do it to promote the E-Class...

 

OPA!!!

 

Now...lets break some plates!

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Posted

My issue with this setup is that it's bound to be among the slowest in its segment due to weight.  The base V6 is going to be slower than a Taurus V6 and probably the CT6 Turbo-4.  The 2.7 V6 is going to be lower than a CT6 V6 and probably most of the equivalent imports, and even the 400hp job is going to fall behind the CT6, the Koreans, and most of the Euros.

 

And I'm not talking about 0.01 seconds behind like SMK likes to make seem important... it's probably going to be close to a full second behind most of these cars in some matchups.

 

Well, the Volvo S90 is a heavy car too. And their twin-charged engine not exactly a full replacement for their old inline 5/6 cylinders in performance.

 

I think 0-60 from 7 sec. down to 6.0 seconds for the 3.0TT are wholly reasonable. People driving this car are supposed to NOT be in a hurry.

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My issue with this setup is that it's bound to be among the slowest in its segment due to weight.  The base V6 is going to be slower than a Taurus V6 and probably the CT6 Turbo-4.  The 2.7 V6 is going to be lower than a CT6 V6 and probably most of the equivalent imports, and even the 400hp job is going to fall behind the CT6, the Koreans, and most of the Euros.

 

And I'm not talking about 0.01 seconds behind like SMK likes to make seem important... it's probably going to be close to a full second behind most of these cars in some matchups.

The 2.7 V6 probably has decent low end torque, so it might not be that bad.  However I don't think anyone is buying the Continental for speed.  They would be buying it for interior, and unless you pay $65k+ for Revel audio, 30 way seats, leather and fabric upgrades, etc, then you aren't even getting that good of an interior.

 

I think the people spending $60k or more will want some performance, and the people that just want a comfortable interior with no performance are happy with a Lexus ES350 for $43k.   So there in lies the hard sell for Lincoln.

 

 

The ES does not have a good interior for its price.

 

I think this car follows the formula of the XTS. And I feel that car is very luxurious. I almost a hard time saying if the CT6 has a better interior than THAT car..

 

In fact - the CT6 does have more wood trim in Platinum trim. But the XTS has LEATHER everywhere....and it's nicely padded stuff too. Which the CT6 lacks.

 

If the Lincoln can have that level of padding, where everything is like a marshmallow, that would be great...

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I was in a CT6 Platinum last week. It's interior was just fine. And the Panaray sound system was fantastic. I saw one piece of plastic trim that looked and felt a bit low-rent, and if the car had a higher price tag I may have quibbled with the lack of metal switchgear. But seeing as how it's priced like an E-Class, engineered like an S-Class, and sized like a standard-wheelbase S-Class, I can live with that.

Also, massaging and reclining rear seats?... TOTALLY worth the extra coin.

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Totally agree on the 640,000 mile E-class taxi.  You'd have to buy 3 of any other car to get that many miles on it.

 

The Lexus ES probably has better fit an finish than a Continental, maybe not as many gadgets or 30 way seats.  But you have to remember in the minds of the consumer, Lexus has the best reliability Evaaarrrrrrr!    Here is a comparison though, I don't think they are that far off.

 

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You can lump cars like the Lexus ES, Lincoln MKZ, Lexus RX, Cadillac XT5, Lincoln MKX, Continental, XTS...all together.

 

In sum, they're viable drivers of sustained profitability for luxury marques.

 

However, I think just like the XTS, the Lincoln Continental will be one that higher level that allows for credible luxury status.

 

Again, we still need a press review. I'm very sure it's going to get high marks for its interior...

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I found this image online on the interwebs. 

 

That's a Black label w/out driver's package (which blacks out the grille and chrome accents) with what appears to the be the first indication of the Equestrian themed Thoroughbred interior.

 

I like what I see. Though the wheels in the Reserve trim car LOOK so much better IMO.

 

The car doesn't suffer from having a big looking back-end though. The XTS had that problem with its proportions.

 

 

 

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That is a niiiiiice car....

 

Oh....Im talking about the grey Fusion in the backround...its nice because I own one....

 

PS: That Lexus interior seems more quiet Luxury than the Lincoln does.

Dont get me wrong, I like the Continental interior too, because it does remind me of a Fusion interior...a very nice and spruced up Fusion interior, but the Lexus I think, does what Lincoln wants to do with quiet luxury a tad better....

 

PS: I aint being sarcastic, nor trolly. I am being genuine.

 

I like that grey Fusion....that is why y wife bought one for herself, because we both fell in love with it. Black though...because black is bad ass.

 

I really do think Lexus does quiet luxury better than Lincoln wants to do....

 

And yes, that interior does remind me of a Fusion interior....the dash part extending to the upper window part where the speakers are and the headlight switch gear...not a bad thing.....unless you feel like its a bad thing, therefore that is on you, and not on me....

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It's the terrible auto-show lighting.

 

Here's a different one of the same interior basically.

 

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The Lexus interior has no flaws when it comes to fitment I'll say that for sure. But some of the finishes, especially since the console isn't padded on the sides is questionable - when the Avalon has real stitching .

 

The Continental is doing what most American luxury cars are known for - lots of wood, lots of leather, and lots of metal accents. I'm waiting to see the Thoroughbred interior. That one will have saddle leather and really nice matte finish burl wood.

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