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I think aero is really hard to improve without changing the styling. 

 

For example... a totally unrelated thing. I read in a pretty in depth article a long time ago about the aerodynamics of a tour de france bike rider w/kit with the super aggressive road bikes compared to a normal person riding a less aggressive but similar weight CF bike with the same quality but less aero components.

 

The less energy required is crazy. 

 

Also, small single digit increases of FE are actually large percentage gains in FE when you go from 19 to like 22 mpg. Doing that in a hybrid vehicle these days is hard.

 

I think a wrangler on its own will improve to like 26 mpg hwy 18 city. Add a diesel, and I think it can reach just below 30 mpg. But remember, there's going to be a Jeep Wrangler Hybrid in 2020s...

 

And like 12-16 mpg on its usual breakfast of rocks, ruts and roots... depending on incline.

 

Also, the Jeep pickup is going to be based on the current outgoing generation. That's a bummer. And also very lucrative.

 

I think the Wrangler truck will get the same improvements as a the regular Wrangler because i isn't all new, but heavily redone evolution of the current JK platform.  I have a new love though, hat Comanche concept based on the Renegade.  LOVE it!  I am sure hey will never build that one, bu I think hey would have a runaway hit. 

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I know only a couple of these are real concepts but even the photochop ones look good.

 

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Haha... SO AWESOME!!!

 

 

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Click on it to make to grow.  AND it's a diesel!!!   :wub:

That little thing really is AWESOME! The only thing they would actually need to change would be the rag-top and it looks like it could be made just like that. 

 

Agreed, they could kick ass and sell a ton to the inner city folks who want a compact pickup for their Home Depot runs.

 

No need for mid or full size trucks.

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They need to build this!  Give it a hardtop, give it the new Hurricane 4 cylinder and keep the diesel as an option, and leave the rest alone including the extra 2 inches of ground clearance and the limited slip rear and I don't think they could keep up with demand.  I would personally take it over the Wrangler because I have a long highway drive everyday and could use the extra on-road comfort and FE, but would still offer plenty of off-road ability for tooling around in the hills on the weekend.  And with that size the thing would just be so maneuverable and such a little go-kart!

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Well I wouldn't peg this as an "inner city" truck, it's a full-on country vehicle and that is one of many things that draws me to it.  I would take one in Commando Green, with a full cab and the diesel... 4WD and a stickshift.  It is sooo ME... small but scrappy as heck!

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A Jeep pickup could get me into a truck...oddly, I am thinking about a truck as my next vehicle, esp. if I get into more DIY stuff w/ my next house.

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A Jeep pickup could get me into a truck...oddly, I am thinking about a truck as my next vehicle, esp. if I get into more DIY stuff w/ my next house.

 

If Jeep ever did a Grand Cherokee EXT, I'd be right there in line with you.

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I'm a fan of Comanches in general. I used to play with cardboard jeeps and comanches as a kid.

 

I don't really like the Renegade Comanche.

 

Maybe I'm not used to the rounded look - I don't expect it in a Jeep pickup truck.

 

Or maybe I'm just too fond of the boxy cardboard jeeps. they were really cool actually. They cost like 2 or 3 cents each back then. You'd cut them out, fold and glue the sides and instant childhood memories.

 

I'd handily recommend them to anyone with kids. If they break they're super easy to replace. I bet now you can do so much more too.

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