10 Cheapest Vehicles with 400hp

[Guest Wings4Life(BANNED)]

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2015/09/top-10-cheapest-vehicles-with-400-hp.html

 

Do you know whats cooler than 300 horsepower? 400! Here’s a list of the cheapest ways to get 400 or more ponies rocking under your hood.

Note that the list starts with our most expensive of the top ten, and goes all the way down to the most affordable. All prices include destination fees.

 

Spoiler alert, it is me who posted the link, so you can all guess who made it to #1 Spot 

 

 

[Guest Wings4Life(BANNED)]

Let's celebrate...

[Drew Dowdell]

Moving to The Lounge

[surreal1272]

Cheapest is a relative term when you factor in how the vehicle is packaged. It is no surprise that the Stang was cheapest though. It does give a good value for a V8 car but the caveat is that it is a very minimalist package when compared with the competition. Nothing wrong with that but it keeps things in perspective.

[Drew Dowdell]

Cheapest is a relative term when you factor in how the vehicle is packaged. It is no surprise that the Stang was cheapest though. It does give a good value for a V8 car but the caveat is that it is a very minimalist package when compared with the competition. Nothing wrong with that but it keeps things in perspective.

 

Yeah, it's a good starting point even if you add options later.

[surreal1272]

 

Cheapest is a relative term when you factor in how the vehicle is packaged. It is no surprise that the Stang was cheapest though. It does give a good value for a V8 car but the caveat is that it is a very minimalist package when compared with the competition. Nothing wrong with that but it keeps things in perspective.

 

Yeah, it's a good starting point even if you add options later.

 

Depending on the car, yes it can be. The Mustang options, for the most part, are fairly inexpensive.

[Guest Wings4Life(BANNED)]

The point is, the customer should be given the choice of adding the features.  

Making them standard and increasing the price by default, is not fair to customers.

[surreal1272]

Yeah it is really terrible when a company does a ton of market research on their prospective buyers and puts out the car they actually want from the get go, instead of potentially nickle and diming them to death with weird packaging options that customers may or may not want. 

 

BTW, there is no right or wrong here. Just pointing out that it is a matter of perspective when talking about what the customer wants.

[Guest Wings4Life(BANNED)]

Anyone who buys cars knows, that often the incentives and deals to be had are package deals that are forced upon us.

 

Strip it down, let the customer decide.

There is no better way than that.

[surreal1272]

At no point was I referring to the pointless incentives and deals part of the equation. I am talking about the equipment packages and Ford is really bad for inconsistent packaging options that are not cheap or just flat out non-existent for a particular car (looking at you, V6 Mustang). Real choice is being able to choose one or two options that a customer may want, not shoving an overpriced package down the customers throat, with ten options they didn't want just to get the two that they did want. Seems every car company out there has forgotten about these REAL choices.

Again, perspective.

[Guest Wings4Life(BANNED)]

Here is a 'perspective,'

 

Ford Mustang is the cheapest V8 coupe to be had with over 400 hp (435).

 

 

Not a bad perspective.

[surreal1272]

As was already stated. Sorry you can't see beyond your own "perspective" because the reality is that not everyone shares that perspective. 

[Guest Wings4Life(BANNED)]

My perspective, is that of choice.

 

Mustang gives you that choice, which is fine for many. 

It also gives you the option of a base GT to purchase, for those seeking to go much further with it.

 

Sorry your perspective is so limited.

[surreal1272]

My perspective, is that of choice.

 

Mustang gives you that choice, which is fine for many. 

It also gives you the option of a base GT to purchase, for those seeking to go much further with it.

 

Sorry your perspective is so limited.

Wow. Calls my perspective "limited" while ignoring his own limited thinking (and by extension ignoring everything I said that supported my much broader perspective).

 

How unsurprisingly typical.

[surreal1272]

And while the normal suspects down vote me merely speaking my opinion, let this sink in a bit.

 

Wings presents one perspective, i.e. cheap base Mustang leaving room for customer picked options and choices.

 

I presented the same thing, i.e. agreed with his perspective while ADDING another perspective in regards to customer choice and packaging.

 

Now, having said that, who has the limited perspective here? It's sure isn't me but please feel free to down vote me for merely giving my opinion.

Edited October 5, 2015 by surreal1272

[ocnblu]

I was an LX 5.0 notchback fan back in the day.  New Mustang is a sweet car with the 5.0.  Not so sure about the 2.3 Ecobust.  V6 acceleration with V8 fuel economy = not a good deal.  I wanted to like the EB 'Stang.  I'm really innerested in seeing how the 2.0t Camaro does, fuel mileage wise in real world.

[Guest Wings4Life(BANNED)]

Went out to lunch in an EB Mustang just last week.  Usually I am in the drivers seat, but it an interesting perspective from the passenger side. I got to dash fondle a bit and take note of the details differently than I would on the other side.  Nice ride anyway.

 

 

Hey just realized, the Mustang GT also offers the most fuel economy in that 400 plus hp list.

[Frisky Dingo]

Just drove a new 2015 GT for the first time yesterday. I've been wanting to drive one since they came out. Took a 50th Ann Coupe w/ 6MT out, stickered for $41K. Drove pretty well, but I wasn't really impressed by it. To me, it honestly felt like how the car should have drove back in 2011 when it first got the 5.0. There were positives about  the car, but overall, I couldn't justify the price. Not better than an outgoing Camaro SS by enough, and too much inbound competition that I think will be superior in both performance and driving feel.

 

Can't wait for the new SS to hit our dealer lot.

[Suaviloquent]

Yeah it is really terrible when a company does a ton of market research on their prospective buyers and puts out the car they actually want from the get go, instead of potentially nickle and diming them to death with weird packaging options that customers may or may not want. 

 

BTW, there is no right or wrong here. Just pointing out that it is a matter of perspective when talking about what the customer wants.

 

Actually, preferences of a target customer can be different for even two makes that produce highly similar products that can be easily substituted. So there is no nickel and diming. It all depends on what a brand is trying to achieve.  

 

Potentially, nickel and diming, could also apply to a large increase in base price even with a large increase in standard equipment. 

 

But in terms of these two coupes, what they deliver at the price they are at, it's pretty safe to say no one is being ripped off really; in comparison to other similar powered coupes that cost much, much more.

[Suaviloquent]

Just drove a new 2015 GT for the first time yesterday. I've been wanting to drive one since they came out. Took a 50th Ann Coupe w/ 6MT out, stickered for $41K. Drove pretty well, but I wasn't really impressed by it. To me, it honestly felt like how the car should have drove back in 2011 when it first got the 5.0. There were positives about  the car, but overall, I couldn't justify the price. Not better than an outgoing Camaro SS by enough, and too much inbound competition that I think will be superior in both performance and driving feel.

 

Can't wait for the new SS to hit our dealer lot.

 

I don't really like the way the 50th anniversary looks.

 

But other coupes with the optional wheels on the Premium models and the Guard green metallic look awesome.  

 

So much about Pony Cars is the style and lifestyle they bring as well. I mean, that's what they were really bought for before. It's only through successive generations as performance has been added as a differentiating feature.

 

But yeah, the Mustang now has to catch up GM to chase them in performance. But in other areas like the interior quality, and styling, and some issues of practicality, I think it is very close to par or even exceeds the incoming Camaro that still both coupes are easily substituted over those critical purchasing criteria qualifiers. 

[surreal1272]

 

Yeah it is really terrible when a company does a ton of market research on their prospective buyers and puts out the car they actually want from the get go, instead of potentially nickle and diming them to death with weird packaging options that customers may or may not want. 

 

BTW, there is no right or wrong here. Just pointing out that it is a matter of perspective when talking about what the customer wants.

 

Actually, preferences of a target customer can be different for even two makes that produce highly similar products that can be easily substituted. So there is no nickel and diming. It all depends on what a brand is trying to achieve.  

 

Potentially, nickel and diming, could also apply to a large increase in base price even with a large increase in standard equipment. 

 

But in terms of these two coupes, what they deliver at the price they are at, it's pretty safe to say no one is being ripped off really; in comparison to other similar powered coupes that cost much, much more.

 

Well said. That was pretty much my point from the get go. 

[ocnblu]

Motor Trend's dyno test of the brand new Shelby against the outgoing Z/28 makes me proud to be a GM fan.

[FordCosworth]

Here is a 'perspective,'

 

Ford Mustang is the cheapest V8 coupe to be had with over 400 hp (435).

 

 

Not a bad perspective.

Not bad at all!

[Guest Wings4Life(BANNED)]

Motor Trend's dyno test of the brand new Shelby against the outgoing Z/28 makes me proud to be a GM fan.

 

The Z had an MSRP of $73,300

 

 

Don't think it would be on this list.

 

Although I too would be proud of how GM could ever sell one for that price.

[ocnblu]

No it wouldn't be on this list.  But it is on another list.

[Suaviloquent]

The thing is, the Z/28 is a great track machine. But the GT350 on price alone, just has to match the Z/28's lap times to be an instant winner. I think it's going to definitively beat the Z/28 everywhere. The R will just build on the performance standing, at the expense of a less favourable, but still better price delta.

 

But the Camaro SS. We're still waiting for the GT350 test results, until then speculation is that the SS will give the the GT350 a good run, atleast for the full tank of gas that it is capable of driving on at a track. 

 

Where the SS, Z/28 and GT350/R diverge is that two are track oriented. One is not.

 

And if the SS is good enough match a GT350, a vehicle that will atleast match the Z/28 at a lower price, then, by logic, the Z/28 is absolutely overpriced. Even though it's not. It will be if the logical argument holds.

[El Kabong]

If by GT350 you mean GT350R, then yes, I'd probably expect Ford to beat the Z/28. Gumball tires and all that.

But regular GT350? Not so sure. Probably, but they will make much as much mention of the interior and refinement as they will the actual driving experience. It's fighting a six year-old interior, remember.

The Z/28 commanded the price it did because it was a track special. Not even the biggest GM fan would put up its straight-line numbers as justification for the price. But it was the on-track stuff that sealed the deal. Just ask MT-they were the ones who made it a Best Drivers Car.

Perhaps the most unsettling part of this discussion is that we have to cite an out-of-production Camaro as one that a new Mustang can conceivably beat in a conparo. There are inexpensive 400hp cars, and there are 400hp cars where you get what you pay for. The S550 Mustang, at mid-thirties grand, is both. Sadly.

Edited October 27, 2015 by El Kabong

[FordCosworth]

I'm wondering what the cheapest 500+ HP car list looks like?

I'm betting the GT350 tops that list as least expensive car with 500+ HP

[Guest Wings4Life(BANNED)]

I'm wondering what the cheapest 500+ HP car list looks like?

I'm betting the GT350 tops that list as least expensive car with 500+ HP

 

 

There is just so much power these days. I mean, I had a blast with my early 90's Mustang GT with about 225 hp.  Ruined my drivers record for a while too, lol.  

 

But yeah, the Shelby packs a lot of performance for the $$.  I am so glad that Ford offers performance gradients for the customer to choose, as in the R model.  Few people want or need that extra little track advantage, if they have to suffer the whole time they own it. Especially considering most never even visit a track. So making it standard, makes little sense.

Edited October 28, 2015 by Wings4Life

[FordCosworth]

I'm wondering what the cheapest 500+ HP car list looks like?

I'm betting the GT350 tops that list as least expensive car with 500+ HP

 

 

There is just so much power these days. I mean, I had a blast with my early 90's Mustang GT with about 225 hp.  Ruined my drivers record for a while too, lol.  

 

But yeah, the Shelby packs a lot of performance for the $$.  I am so glad that Ford offers performance gradients for the customer to choose, as in the R model.  Few people want or need that extra little track advantage, if they have to suffer the whole time they own it. Especially considering most never even visit a track. So making it standard, makes little sense.

Yes. Ford seems to be doing it right ( financial wise too ). One who wants a still damn buttoned down, but comfortable Shelby, can be entertained by the GT350 and all its creature comforts. You can always option up the Track Pak for even more excitement.

For those that desire more, up a higher notch is still the R.