Random Thoughts Thread

Suaviloquent · June 19, 2015

I'm almost done the finishing touches on my road bike. I think tmrw I should have pictures.

Suaviloquent · June 19, 2015

The feeling when you work hard, and give it your all, but you're still not satisfied.

knightfan26917 · June 19, 2015

That feeling when you realize so much isn't as you thought or understood it to be.

Cort www.oldcarsstronghearts.com

1979 & 1989 Caprice Classics | pigValve, paceMaker, cowValve

"All your lies somehow left me blind" __ George Ducas __ 'Lipstick Promises'

ccap41 · June 19, 2015

Does Ford have a small CUV planned like the CX-3/HR-V/Renegade? It seems like most automakers have a little guy except Ford. GM has the Trax/Encore, FCA and the Renegade/500L, The above mentioned Japanese ones.. Not Ford?

They have one, I believe, in Europe, just can't remember the name off the top of my head though. Semms like i was a decent looking litle thing, but can't remember for sure.

You're thinking of the Ford EcoSport which if I remember is a Ford Fiesta on stilts.

Are there plans to bring it to the US though? I mean it isn't my cup of tea but I feel like they're losing out on the huge swing to the micro CUV.

ccap41 · June 19, 2015

One of my favorite things to watch/listen to. I highly suggest giving it a listen.

Edited June 19, 2015 by ccap41

El Kabong · June 19, 2015

Sleep deprivation can be fun if you don't have anything of consequence to do while you're slogging through it. Badgers, badgers, badgers.

William Maley · June 20, 2015

Does Ford have a small CUV planned like the CX-3/HR-V/Renegade? It seems like most automakers have a little guy except Ford. GM has the Trax/Encore, FCA and the Renegade/500L, The above mentioned Japanese ones.. Not Ford?

They have one, I believe, in Europe, just can't remember the name off the top of my head though. Semms like i was a decent looking litle thing, but can't remember for sure.

You're thinking of the Ford EcoSport which if I remember is a Ford Fiesta on stilts.

Are there plans to bring it to the US though? I mean it isn't my cup of tea but I feel like they're losing out on the huge swing to the micro CUV.

I don't believe so.

That feeling when you realize so much isn't as you thought or understood it to be.

Cort www.oldcarsstronghearts.com

1979 & 1989 Caprice Classics | pigValve, paceMaker, cowValve

"All your lies somehow left me blind" __ George Ducas __ 'Lipstick Promises'

It falls under that same category as the realization that you really don't understand the world and yourself.

balthazar · June 20, 2015

^ Continuing that thought, does anyone think any given generation ever fully "gets" the subsequent generation?

Robert Hall · June 20, 2015

^ Continuing that thought, does anyone think any given generation ever fully "gets" the subsequent generation?

Good point..probably not. Had 4 generations in my immediate family, each distinctly different. My Dad was of the Greatest Generation, my Mom is of the Silent Generation, both siblings of the Baby Boomer Generation, and I'm Gen X.

balthazar · June 20, 2015

So Cubie, do your folks "get" you?

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I have 2 sons, the one is causing me to move up my long-penciled in life event entitled "Heavy Drinking".

Robert Hall · June 20, 2015

So Cubie, do your folks "get" you?

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I have 2 sons, the one is causing me to move up my long-penciled in life event entitled "Heavy Drinking".

At some level, yes... my Dad was 50 when I was born, retired at 55, so he was home most of the time when I was growing up and we were pretty close. My Mom has always been a bit strange and distant. My siblings, esp. my sister and I get along pretty well despite the age difference. Since my father died in '99, my relationship w/ my mother has become strained, as she has allied herself w/ my brother and my sister can't stand my brother, and I'm allied w/ her.

Edited June 20, 2015 by Cubical-aka-Moltar

balthazar · June 20, 2015

50 is up there to be swabbing butts.

My grandfather was 26 when my father was born, my father was 25 when I was born & I was 28 when my first son was born.

My B-I-L has a similar story to yours; falling out and '2 sides' to the family.

It's a shame when personalities/ family politics get in the way of a family relationship… tho as I get older and have more & more exposure to other families, I'm still learning there is no "normal" family. Because my interaction rate with 'abnormal' families seems to be about 80%.

Robert Hall · June 20, 2015

I think every family has different degrees of dysfunctional...no 'perfect' families. Each of my siblings and I had different paths through school and college growing up, had our 'rebellious periods' at different points, different goals in life.. I think my mother still is mad at my sister and myself for moving so far away, she would have preferred we stayed in Podunk, Ohio instead of building adult lives in the West, and she favors our older brother (who was the black sheep in many ways) ..

oldshurst442 · June 20, 2015

50 is up there to be swabbing butts.

My grandfather was 26 when my father was born, my father was 25 when I was born & I was 28 when my first son was born.

My B-I-L has a similar story to yours; falling out and '2 sides' to the family.

It's a shame when personalities/ family politics get in the way of a family relationship… tho as I get older and have more & more exposure to other families, I'm still learning there is no "normal" family. Because my interaction rate with 'abnormal' families seems to be about 80%.

Ive learned that lesson a long time ago.

I was 25 years old when I realized that there is no such thing as a "normal" family.

Actually...THE normal family HAS issues....its the issue-less families that are abnormal. And those types of families are unicorns...they dont exist.

My mom's side of the family...her two brothers...their kids and their wives...yes...my blood uncles and blood cousins and my aunts by association...they are ALL crazy...bi-polar Im guessing...

My mom comes from the island of Kefalonia in Greece...

Yes Ithaca...Odysseus...of The Iliad and The Odyssey fame...Homer's epic poems...

The reason I say this is because...all the bloody inhabitants of this Island....they are ALL CRAZY!!! My mom....included!!! I love my mom...and I am very close to her...but...bi-polar...Her brothers and sons...bi-polar...Their wives...and thier wives also come from that bloody island...bi-polar!!!

A little story to back up my claims...

Ioannis Metaxas...Prime Minister of Greece during WW2.

Well, he comes from the island of Kefalonia.

Before the war, a couple of Island Mayors went to Athens to visit Mr. Metaxas. Actually, they went to ask for federal help to help finance the enclosure of the local mental hospital in Kefalonia...and since he came from that Island...the islander mayors thought that they would easliy get the money to build a fence around the mental hospital.

Well...Mr. Ioannis Metaxas' response was: "WHY OF COURSE!!! I'll give you enough money to build a fence around the whole Island...you are all crazy!!!"

Two things that are funny in this true story..

1. the Prime Minister of Greece acknowledges his home island is full of crazy people...

2. There is a mental institution on that island...it must be there for a reason!

Edited June 20, 2015 by oldshurst442

knightfan26917 · June 20, 2015

It falls under that same category as the realization that you really don't understand the world and yourself.

Yep, I'd agree with that. The last 24-48 hours really have been jarring ... in way too many ways. I'm about done, with everything.

*shrugs*

Cort www.oldcarsstronghearts.com

1979 & 1989 Caprice Classics | pigValve, paceMaker, cowValve

"What can you do?" __ Mickey Gilley __ 'Full Grown Fool'

El Kabong · June 20, 2015

I'm happily married. But if I was a single man I'd march straight over to the stunning brunette hustling that modded Z/28 around the parking lot like it was nothin' and...

Thed · June 21, 2015

So we can make it to second base but not all the way because you have a boyfriend halfway across the country.

Well $h!.

cp-the-nerd · June 21, 2015

So we can make it to second base but not all the way because you have a boyfriend halfway across the country.

Well $h!.

Ummm you pick the wrong girls, man. That's a f@#ked up moral code, but I'm assuming she's young like you, so she doesn't "get it" yet. You can't have a long distance commitment and fool around on the side. That will never, ever last.

Drew Dowdell · June 21, 2015

Hasn't the Donald had multiple bankruptcies and business failures? Maybe the image of being successful if not the reality.

His net worth is over 4 billion dollars, he's a successful businessman. I'm not saying he's THE guy to be president, but people need to stop voting with their heads up their asses. If we don't fix the budget, it's only a matter of time until the house of cards falls apart. We're already sitting on a student loan bubble on the brink of bursting. The next president's #1 attribute needs to be economics, and Trump wants to bring manufacturing back to the US which would be a big step in the right direction.

Actions speak louder than words:

ocnblu · June 21, 2015

Who buys furniture from the grocery store anyway?

Thed · June 21, 2015

So we can make it to second base but not all the way because you have a boyfriend halfway across the country.

Well $h!.

Ummm you pick the wrong girls, man. That's a f@#ked up moral code, but I'm assuming she's young like you, so she doesn't "get it" yet. You can't have a long distance commitment and fool around on the side. That will never, ever last.

Honestly I didn't pick her. She came on to me, not the other way around. I told her it was a bad idea even though I wanted to do the do soooooo much.

The strangest part is though is that we're both on vacation in Omaha. So she actually doesn't have a long-distance relationship. We were just both drunk and very attracted to each other.

Oh well.

oldshurst442 · June 21, 2015

So we can make it to second base but not all the way because you have a boyfriend halfway across the country.

Well $h!.

Ummm you pick the wrong girls, man. That's a f@#ked up moral code, but I'm assuming she's young like you, so she doesn't "get it" yet. You can't have a long distance commitment and fool around on the side. That will never, ever last.

Honestly I didn't pick her. She came on to me, not the other way around. I told her it was a bad idea even though I wanted to do the do soooooo much.

The strangest part is though is that we're both on vacation in Omaha. So she actually doesn't have a long-distance relationship. We were just both drunk and very attracted to each other.

Oh well.

Either she was not drunk enough or she wasnt that much attracted to you, hence why she might not have been drunk enough to go all the way with you...

And that long distance relationship excuse...its exactly that...an excuse...maybe it was a way of her asking for more booze....

"Buddy, If Im gonna sleep with you...I might as well be sooooooo sloshed....that I wont remember a thing..."

:smilewide:

:spin: :spin: :spin:

Just joking...

Ive had similar experiences back in the day....and yeah...experiences...plural...

That is when I hired professional help for the ummmmm....blue....balls.

Edited June 21, 2015 by oldshurst442

balthazar · June 22, 2015

I just got rid of one PITA client, I sure hope tomorrow's won't be another one for the chopping block.

Good thing it's only like a 2-day job...

Thed · June 22, 2015

So we can make it to second base but not all the way because you have a boyfriend halfway across the country.

Well $h!.

Ummm you pick the wrong girls, man. That's a f@#ked up moral code, but I'm assuming she's young like you, so she doesn't "get it" yet. You can't have a long distance commitment and fool around on the side. That will never, ever last.

Honestly I didn't pick her. She came on to me, not the other way around. I told her it was a bad idea even though I wanted to do the do soooooo much.

The strangest part is though is that we're both on vacation in Omaha. So she actually doesn't have a long-distance relationship. We were just both drunk and very attracted to each other.

Oh well.

Either she was not drunk enough or she wasnt that much attracted to you, hence why she might not have been drunk enough to go all the way with you...

And that long distance relationship excuse...its exactly that...an excuse...maybe it was a way of her asking for more booze....

"Buddy, If Im gonna sleep with you...I might as well be sooooooo sloshed....that I wont remember a thing..."

:spin:

Just joking...

Ive had similar experiences back in the day....and yeah...experiences...plural...

That is when I hired professional help for the ummmmm....blue....balls.

I honestly don't think you got it. She drunkenly came on to me. She wanted to go all the way. She was making the advances. I thought with my upper head (sorry lower head) and had to convince her it was a bad idea. I hate that I had to, but it was definitely the right choice.

What do you mean by "professional help" for your blue balls?

oldshurst442 · June 22, 2015

So we can make it to second base but not all the way because you have a boyfriend halfway across the country.

Well $h!.

Ummm you pick the wrong girls, man. That's a f@#ked up moral code, but I'm assuming she's young like you, so she doesn't "get it" yet. You can't have a long distance commitment and fool around on the side. That will never, ever last.

Honestly I didn't pick her. She came on to me, not the other way around. I told her it was a bad idea even though I wanted to do the do soooooo much.

The strangest part is though is that we're both on vacation in Omaha. So she actually doesn't have a long-distance relationship. We were just both drunk and very attracted to each other.

Oh well.

Either she was not drunk enough or she wasnt that much attracted to you, hence why she might not have been drunk enough to go all the way with you...

And that long distance relationship excuse...its exactly that...an excuse...maybe it was a way of her asking for more booze....

"Buddy, If Im gonna sleep with you...I might as well be sooooooo sloshed....that I wont remember a thing..."

:spin:

Just joking...

Ive had similar experiences back in the day....and yeah...experiences...plural...

That is when I hired professional help for the ummmmm....blue....balls.

I honestly don't think you got it. She drunkenly came on to me. She wanted to go all the way. She was making the advances. I thought with my upper head (sorry lower head) and had to convince her it was a bad idea. I hate that I had to, but it was definitely the right choice.

What do you mean by "professional help" for your blue balls?

AH....I misunderstood some parts to your story.

Never-the-less...I still want to continue with the joke...maybe not...when someone has to ask for explanations because they did not understand the joke...maybe its time to hang up the joke telling...

Was it a good thing for you to convince her that it is a bad thing for you guys to do the nasty?

Sure...if that is how your heart feels.

Kidding aside...Ive also faced similar circumstances. My best friend at that time had broken up with his girlfriend who I knew very well....it was at least 2 years they had broken up when I bumped into her best friend...It was then and there where phone numbers were exchanged...because I was hot over heels with her best friend. So...I went out with both of them...on a friendly date...drinking...later that week. I was hitting on the best friend but I got nowhere fast that night. All three of us continued going out...then one night...it was myself and my best friend's ex. The reason why the other girl never went for me...is because my best friend's ex wanted me...well...me loyal to my friend...I cooled her jets real quick. I did not know whether she wanted me legitimately or it was some sort of revengeful plot to get back at my best friend...I still wanted to sleep with her best friend though...

About my joke...I understood that she came unto to you....but I also thought that she had cold feet at the same time...well...that also has happened to me...not because of boyfriends...but because...the girl did not want to go all the way...she wanted to...but she didnt...I never forced anybody to have sex with me...

And...Ive had cold feet. (Im not implying you had cold feet...I understand that you have morals...which is a very good thing)

My first potential threesome...well...I never went through with it...it would have been my first time having sex...and to do it with two girls...You know...your first time...you are scared to screw it up somehow...and to do it with 2 girls? Screw it up not just with 1 girl...but 2? So yeah...I was a chicken shyte for my first time having sex...and with 2 girls...I dont know whether to be proud of that story...because 2 girls actually wanted to have sex with me...at the same time...and they are the ones that begged me...

Or whether to hang my head in shame....as I never went through with it...I chickened out...

As for the professional help remark..for blue balls...

Well...like I said...I never forced any girl to have sex with me. Sometimes, my dates....we would fool around soooo much...and get all hot...that sex was just around the corner...but...especially in my time....in the early 1990s...girls just didnt give it up all that easy...they actually had morals...and were quite respectful of themselves...and the answer to the question "should we?" would be no.

Sometimes because a condom would not be available.

Sometimes because the back seat of a car would not be appropriate.

Sometimes...the timing was too soon.

Hence..blue balls.

So...Id have some cash on me...and after dropping the girl home...Id call up another friend of mine...and we go rent a motel room...one for him..one for me...and we call up some escorts...some clean escorts...not some off the street crack whore...

Montreal...if you know where to go to find the clean hookers...is the REAL sin city....It aint Las Vegas...It really is Montreal.

Do I feel shame that I slept with hookers in my life?

HELL NO!!!

Its a right of passage in a young Greek male's life.

We are religious...and the whole sex before marriage is a no no in the Greek Orthodox Church too, however,,,,Before there was Judeo-Christian Beliefs with the Greeks, there was the 12 Gods of Olympus....where Greeks celebrated love...and lust...and where hookers were a part of everyday life for soldiers...hookers were not taboo....hookers were essential to the well being of the soldiers and the athletes...and to the common man...

And....the French people...in Quebec and in France...also have this ideology....where sex is not taboo...and paying for sex and hookers...well...it is part of life...

No...not pimping...paying for sex aint a taboo...pimping is bad...

In case you did not figure out what I meant by professional help...escorts is what I meant.

Edited June 22, 2015 by oldshurst442

cp-the-nerd · June 22, 2015

You convinced her not to have sex with you? Dude. She's probably already cheated on the boyfriend before. You don't just have a couple drinks and accidentally fool around with another guy.

Thed · June 22, 2015

You convinced her not to have sex with you? Dude. She's probably already cheated on the boyfriend before. You don't just have a couple drinks and accidentally fool around with another guy.

Didn't think of that.

Thed · June 22, 2015

AH....I misunderstood some parts to your story.

Never-the-less...I still want to continue with the joke...maybe not...when someone has to ask for explanations because they did not understand the joke...maybe its time to hang up the joke telling...

Was it a good thing for you to convince her that it is a bad thing for you guys to do the nasty?

Sure...if that is how your heart feels.

Kidding aside...Ive also faced similar circumstances. My best friend at that time had broken up with his girlfriend who I knew very well....it was at least 2 years they had broken up when I bumped into her best friend...It was then and there where phone numbers were exchanged...because I was hot over heels with her best friend. So...I went out with both of them...on a friendly date...drinking...later that week. I was hitting on the best friend but I got nowhere fast that night. All three of us continued going out...then one night...it was myself and my best friend's ex. The reason why the other girl never went for me...is because my best friend's ex wanted me...well...me loyal to my friend...I cooled her jets real quick. I did not know whether she wanted me legitimately or it was some sort of revengeful plot to get back at my best friend...I still wanted to sleep with her best friend though...

About my joke...I understood that she came unto to you....but I also thought that she had cold feet at the same time...well...that also has happened to me...not because of boyfriends...but because...the girl did not want to go all the way...she wanted to...but she didnt...I never forced anybody to have sex with me...

And...Ive had cold feet. (Im not implying you had cold feet...I understand that you have morals...which is a very good thing)

My first potential threesome...well...I never went through with it...it would have been my first time having sex...and to do it with two girls...You know...your first time...you are scared to screw it up somehow...and to do it with 2 girls? Screw it up not just with 1 girl...but 2? So yeah...I was a chicken shyte for my first time having sex...and with 2 girls...I dont know whether to be proud of that story...because 2 girls actually wanted to have sex with me...at the same time...and they are the ones that begged me...

Or whether to hang my head in shame....as I never went through with it...I chickened out...

As for the professional help remark..for blue balls...

Well...like I said...I never forced any girl to have sex with me. Sometimes, my dates....we would fool around soooo much...and get all hot...that sex was just around the corner...but...especially in my time....in the early 1990s...girls just didnt give it up all that easy...they actually had morals...and were quite respectful of themselves...and the answer to the question "should we?" would be no.

Sometimes because a condom would not be available.

Sometimes because the back seat of a car would not be appropriate.

Sometimes...the timing was too soon.

Hence..blue balls.

So...Id have some cash on me...and after dropping the girl home...Id call up another friend of mine...and we go rent a motel room...one for him..one for me...and we call up some escorts...some clean escorts...not some off the street crack whore...

Montreal...if you know where to go to find the clean hookers...is the REAL sin city....It aint Las Vegas...It really is Montreal.

Do I feel shame that I slept with hookers in my life?

HELL NO!!!

Its a right of passage in a young Greek male's life.

We are religious...and the whole sex before marriage is a no no in the Greek Orthodox Church too, however,,,,Before there was Judeo-Christian Beliefs with the Greeks, there was the 12 Gods of Olympus....where Greeks celebrated love...and lust...and where hookers were a part of everyday life for soldiers...hookers were not taboo....hookers were essential to the well being of the soldiers and the athletes...and to the common man...

And....the French people...in Quebec and in France...also have this ideology....where sex is not taboo...and paying for sex and hookers...well...it is part of life...

No...not pimping...paying for sex aint a taboo...pimping is bad...

In case you did not figure out what I meant by professional help...escorts is what I meant.

Olds, I just have to say, is that you're the man. From one Greek to another, you're my hero.

oldshurst442 · June 22, 2015

You convinced her not to have sex with you? Dude. She's probably already cheated on the boyfriend before. You don't just have a couple drinks and accidentally fool around with another guy.

You dont know that.

Chances are...that she has had lustful sex with somebody else...because the boyfriend is not there...but...maybe she is loyal...but she felt the need to be touched...that particualr night...and the alcohol pushed her on the edge...just that particular night...

On the other hand...

Thed did the right thing...if HE did not feel comfortable...that is what counts...

Women are not sex objects...but by the same token....men are not sex objects either...she probably wanted Thed for dirty sex...that she does not get since her boyfriend is not around...To tell you the truth...I dont know if I would have had sex with her either...In a situaltion like that...Id rather have sex with an escort...

cp-the-nerd · June 22, 2015

You convinced her not to have sex with you? Dude. She's probably already cheated on the boyfriend before. You don't just have a couple drinks and accidentally fool around with another guy.

Didn't think of that.

Trust me, I understand. I always was "too nice" and cock blocked myself plenty of times. Hindsight is 20/20, but learn from this experience. Obviously don't hit on girls with boyfriends, but if one comes on to YOU, that's a green light. Turning her down wont improve her moral standards, it's clearly not a committed relationship, and you both just want to have fun on vacation.

oldshurst442 · June 22, 2015

You convinced her not to have sex with you? Dude. She's probably already cheated on the boyfriend before. You don't just have a couple drinks and accidentally fool around with another guy.

Didn't think of that.

Trust me, I understand. I always was "too nice" and cock blocked myself plenty of times. Hindsight is 20/20, but learn from this experience. Obviously don't hit on girls with boyfriends, but if one comes on to YOU, that's a green light. Turning her down wont improve her moral standards, it's clearly not a committed relationship, and you both just want to have fun on vacation.

Having fun on Vacation....yeah...I could see that...I dont wanna know if there is another guy...sloppy seconds I am not...

That is why Id rather have sex with an escort...

If the girl was hot for me...and made advances on me...trust me...I dont wanna know if there is a guy in her life...sex is what she wants from me...sex is want I want from her...great...the second she mentions I have a boyfriend...well...Im outta there...I have morals...dirty sex...I can get that quite easily...without the hassles of crying in the morning because she cheated...or angry boyfriends knocking on my door, etc...

And paying for it need not be either...

There are plenty of females around to mate with...why choose one that has an admitted boyfriend?

Sleeping with an adulteress...even if just a boyfriend, is WORSE that paying for sex. That is just my opinion of course.

Edited June 22, 2015 by oldshurst442

oldshurst442 · June 22, 2015

Olds, I just have to say, is that you're the man. From one Greek to another, you're my hero.

Thed???!!!

Did I read that correctly???!!!

You are Greek???!!!! OPA!!!

How the hell did I miss that all these years???!!!

Edited June 22, 2015 by oldshurst442

Thed · June 22, 2015

It also didn't help that I didn't have protection. If I did, honestly, I think I may have just gone ahead and did it. There's acting stupid, and then there's being stupid. I wasn't going to go in bare back, no. That would be dumb.

Olds, I just have to say, is that you're the man. From one Greek to another, you're my hero.

Thed???!!!

Did I read that correctly???!!!

You are Greek???!!!! OPA!!!

How the hell did I miss that all these years???!!!

IDK, I've only told you like three times back at M/T.

oldshurst442 · June 22, 2015

It also didn't help that I didn't have protection. If I did, honestly, I think I may have just gone ahead and did it. There's acting stupid, and then there's being stupid. I wasn't going to go in bare back, no. That would be dumb.

Olds, I just have to say, is that you're the man. From one Greek to another, you're my hero.

Thed???!!!

Did I read that correctly???!!!

You are Greek???!!!! OPA!!!

How the hell did I miss that all these years???!!!

IDK, I've only told you like three times back at M/T.

I was blind, deaf and dumb...

https://youtu.be/80SsC_ZNbyI?t=55s

Im sorry that I did not pay attention to that.

I was more into you in your car crazy ways than I was with you being Greek.

cp-the-nerd · June 22, 2015

Uh, where I'm from, the hookers are disgusting drug addicts. You'd be lucky not to catch something.

Anyway, I'm not suggesting making a habit of being "the other guy" (and certainly don't start a relationship like that) but in situations like this, I don't see how any of it is YOUR moral responsibility. You both want to bump uglies, and she doesn't care enough about her boyfriend back home to stop.

IMO you can't get to second base without already cheating. The moral line isn't drawn at sex.

Thed · June 22, 2015

It also didn't help that I didn't have protection. If I did, honestly, I think I may have just gone ahead and did it. There's acting stupid, and then there's being stupid. I wasn't going to go in bare back, no. That would be dumb.

Olds, I just have to say, is that you're the man. From one Greek to another, you're my hero.

Thed???!!!

Did I read that correctly???!!!

You are Greek???!!!! OPA!!!

How the hell did I miss that all these years???!!!

IDK, I've only told you like three times back at M/T.

I was blind, deaf and dumb...

https://youtu.be/80SsC_ZNbyI?t=55s

Im sorry that I did not pay attention to that.

I was more into you in your car crazy ways than I was with you being Greek.

It's all good. But I honestly thinking you were going to put up a video to Pinball Wizard after reading "deaf, dumb, and blind"

oldshurst442 · June 22, 2015

Uh, where I'm from, the hookers are disgusting drug addicts. You'd be lucky not to catch something.

Anyway, I'm not suggesting making a habit of being "the other guy" (and certainly don't start a relationship like that) but in situations like this, I don't see how any of it is YOUR moral responsibility. You both want to bump uglies, and she doesn't care enough about her boyfriend back home to stop.

IMO you can't get to second base without already cheating. The moral line isn't drawn at sex.

Ummmm..yeah...stay the eff away from dirty skanky hookers...

Not all escorts are clean...even the high priced ones...Iv been lucky to have not caught anything in my life...but condoms was probably the reason.

Being the "other guy" aint bad...like you said...if both parties are in agreement...no harm done...its only sex...I just did not like being "the other guy"...and yeah...the moral lines are clearly borken when just making out...

I think I did not want to be "the other guy", its because I did not want to be the guy whose wife cheated on him...so I kinda did not want karma coming my way in the future when it was my time to marry. And I certainly never cheated on any of my girlfriends...and I certainly have not cheated on my wife, nor will I ever cheat on her.

I cant bear the thought of breaking her heart. Nor my kids.

The thought of me doing such a thing and she finding out...and her and our kids being devastated and her and my kids looking at me in disgust because I just wrecked their lives would probably lead me to commit suicide. I could never hurt my wife and my kids that way!!!

Thed · June 22, 2015

Anyway, I'm not suggesting making a habit of being "the other guy" (and certainly don't start a relationship like that) but in situations like this, I don't see how any of it is YOUR moral responsibility. You both want to bump uglies, and she doesn't care enough about her boyfriend back home to stop.

Point taken.

IMO you can't get to second base without already cheating. The moral line isn't drawn at sex.

I see what you're saying, but hitting a home run makes it seem unforgivable. At least she could explain second base, that is if she's even going to tell the dude at all.

oldshurst442 · June 22, 2015

It also didn't help that I didn't have protection. If I did, honestly, I think I may have just gone ahead and did it. There's acting stupid, and then there's being stupid. I wasn't going to go in bare back, no. That would be dumb.

Olds, I just have to say, is that you're the man. From one Greek to another, you're my hero.

Thed???!!!

Did I read that correctly???!!!

You are Greek???!!!! OPA!!!

How the hell did I miss that all these years???!!!

IDK, I've only told you like three times back at M/T.

I was blind, deaf and dumb...

https://youtu.be/80SsC_ZNbyI?t=55s

Im sorry that I did not pay attention to that.

I was more into you in your car crazy ways than I was with you being Greek.

It's all good. But I honestly thinking you were going to put up a video to Pinball Wizard after reading "deaf, dumb, and blind"

Pinball wizard, huh?

Love the song!!! I listen to it like at least once a week...

But I just had to google just now to see what you just meant....duh...that deaf, dumb and blind kid sure plays a mean pinball...I feel shame again....this song is up my alley and I failed...

Thed · June 22, 2015

It also didn't help that I didn't have protection. If I did, honestly, I think I may have just gone ahead and did it. There's acting stupid, and then there's being stupid. I wasn't going to go in bare back, no. That would be dumb.

Did I read that correctly???!!!

Thed???!!!

You are Greek???!!!! OPA!!!

How the hell did I miss that all these years???!!!

IDK, I've only told you like three times back at M/T.

I was blind, deaf and dumb...

https://youtu.be/80SsC_ZNbyI?t=55s

Im sorry that I did not pay attention to that.

I was more into you in your car crazy ways than I was with you being Greek.

It's all good. But I honestly thinking you were going to put up a video to Pinball Wizard after reading "deaf, dumb, and blind"

Pinball wizard, huh?

Love the song!!! I listen to it like at least once a week...

But I just had to google just now to see what you just meant....duh...that deaf, dumb and blind kid sure plays a mean pinball...I feel shame again....this song is up my alley and I failed...

Olds you seem like you'd be that "cool" uncle in the family.

cp-the-nerd · June 22, 2015

Anyway, I'm not suggesting making a habit of being "the other guy" (and certainly don't start a relationship like that) but in situations like this, I don't see how any of it is YOUR moral responsibility. You both want to bump uglies, and she doesn't care enough about her boyfriend back home to stop.

Point taken.

IMO you can't get to second base without already cheating. The moral line isn't drawn at sex.

I see what you're saying, but hitting a home run makes it seem unforgivable. At least she could explain second base, that is if she's even going to tell the dude at all.

If you're in a serious relationship, it wont matter if it was 1st base or having sex; it's over. If my girlfriend ever voluntarily stuck her tongue in another guy's mouth, besides being disgusted with her, I'd never trust her again. When you hear the cliche relationships are built on trust, it's no bullsh*t. There's chemistry, sexual attraction, and trust. Cheating at any level violates all three, but it breaks trust permanently.

G. David Felt · June 22, 2015

Going on vacation in 2 days and having hard time focusing on work.

Drew Dowdell · June 23, 2015

LOL @ you guys and your complicated relationships.

Anyway... why do some used car dealers insist on hosing down a car, inside and out, with Armor All?

balthazar · June 23, 2015

Some people are like sharks; apparently, if they stop talking, they believe they'll die.

cp-the-nerd · June 23, 2015

Finally dusted off GT6 and my racing wheel. Took some practice laps with my C6 Z06 to get used to the stick shift again, thinking I hadn't modded it much... until I hit 200 mph on the first straight away at the "high speed ring."

"Holy sh*t, that's a fast 500 hp... Why is my redline 8000 rpm?"

Backed up to the specs screen after a few insane laps. 690 hp, naturally aspirated of course. Then I did some easy races with my Focus ST, modded it up over 300 hp and put some black Enkies on it because the stockers are terrible looking. Good times.

ccap41 · June 23, 2015

LOL @ you guys and your complicated relationships.

Anyway... why do some used car dealers insist on hosing down a car, inside and out, with Armor All?

Shiny means clean. Duh.. Didn't you know this?

Finally dusted off GT6 and my racing wheel. Took some practice laps with my C6 Z06 to get used to the stick shift again, thinking I hadn't modded it much... until I hit 200 mph on the first straight away at the "high speed ring."

"Holy sh*t, that's a fast 500 hp... Why is my redline 8000 rpm?"

Backed up to the specs screen after a few insane laps. 690 hp, naturally aspirated of course. Then I did some easy races with my Focus ST, modded it up over 300 hp and put some black Enkies on it because the stockers are terrible looking. Good times.

YES! My hardest part of getting back into it is tuning.. I feel so damn clueless all over again. And at first it didn't matter how I changed the suspension settings unless I could run a consistent lap anyway.. Practice practice practice.

cp-the-nerd · June 23, 2015

Aaaaannnd now GT6 is taking over my PS3 with over 1 gig of updates. WTF is being added to the game?? I know it's not cars! I already installed one huge update a couple months after I got the game waaayy back near the release date.

*Edit*

Holy hell, it's a LOT more than 1 gig.

Edited June 23, 2015 by cp-the-nerd

El Kabong · June 23, 2015

I remember playing Gran Turismo. I remember my race wheel. I have no idea why or when I stopped.

Gee. I feel kinda sad now. Next cycle off I might have to dust off the PlayStation.

ccap41 · June 23, 2015

Aaaaannnd now GT6 is taking over my PS3 with over 1 gig of updates. WTF is being added to the game?? I know it's not cars! I already installed one huge update a couple months after I got the game waaayy back near the release date.

*Edit*

Holy hell, it's a LOT more than 1 gig.

When I first put it back in a few weeks ago after not playing for over a year there were 15 updates.. luckily I did it at night and just let it do its thing while I went to bed. I checked on it about 45 minutes later and it was only 3/15 updates though.. No clue what got updated though. I think you can read what each update does.

El Kabong · June 23, 2015

I understand the concept of Private Messaging for certain topics too sensitive for the forums. But really, if you want to tell me something I don't give a rat's round behind about, saying it privately won't make me give a rat's round behind anymore than saying it publicly. Especially if said message comes off, as it so often does, like a whiny junior high kid.

Plus ca change...

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