Random Thoughts Thread

[Robert Hall]

Crowds are a lot thinner earlier in the week...the really outrageous prices go on Friday and Saturday..

[El Kabong]

The trends are really strange too. A few years ago it was all about the matching numbers. These days if your old ride doesn't have an Art Morrison chassis and a crate motor you're outta luck.

[G. David Felt]

Wonder if they ever will have a boat auction like they do for cars?

[cletus8269]

possibly, i know that mecum has farm days auctions where theres a ton of agricultural antiques and tractors for sale. its really awesome. they have had boat auctions from time to time. i subscribe to their news letter and get emails daily about awesome cars for sale as well as collections up for grabs.

[oldshurst442]

I thought the game started at 19:00 hours yesterday. It started at 18:30....luckily I was recording it...

 

OK...this is where my random thought really starts:

 

I thought I was gonna catch up to the live broadcast at half-time...because...who the hell listens to Coldplay, Bruno MArs and Beyonce anyway?

I know I dont...

 

Well, lets just say I continued being about half-hour behind..._{(behind...yes,  carefully chosen word)}

 

 

I was looking at those legs...those are mighty fine legs...

 

Here, let ZZ Top say a few words on my behalf.

 

Edited February 8, 2016 by oldshurst442

[oldshurst442]

Cubitar Trivia: I drove a Ford Mustang and a Ford Bronco (II) when I moved to Broncos country in 1997..seems like a lifetime ago..

At least the hockey team is a Chevy...

[oldshurst442]

Not watching.

 

They're both Ford teams.

 

Broncos.

 

Panthers.

 

 

 

Cubitar Trivia: I drove a Ford Mustang and a Ford Bronco (II) when I moved to Broncos country in 1997..seems like a lifetime ago..

At least the hockey team is a Chevy...

 

 

I ORIGINALLY WANTED TO QUOTE BLU AS WELL...I FAILED!!!

 

[balthazar]

B be fat.

[oldshurst442]

B be fat.

I had to google that.

 

 

I dont like skinny bitches..

I mean...skinny bitches are aw-ight.  But I prefer my hoes with some meat on 'em. _{(I like to feel and  grab)}

 

Id slap that ass silly..

Edited February 9, 2016 by oldshurst442

[ocnblu]

I lost respect for her.

[Robert Hall]

 

Cubitar Trivia: I drove a Ford Mustang and a Ford Bronco (II) when I moved to Broncos country in 1997..seems like a lifetime ago..

At least the hockey team is a Chevy...

 

And Chevy named a truck after the state..and my Jeep is named after a city on the Texas-Mexico border..

Not a Beyonce fan...her routine looked too much like something from Janet Jackson 20 years ago...  but Gaga's performance of the National Anthem was great...

[oldshurst442]

 

 

Cubitar Trivia: I drove a Ford Mustang and a Ford Bronco (II) when I moved to Broncos country in 1997..seems like a lifetime ago..

At least the hockey team is a Chevy...

 

And Chevy named a truck after the state..and my Jeep is named after a city on the Texas-Mexico border..

Not a Beyonce fan...her routine looked too much like something from Janet Jackson 20 years ago...  but Gaga's performance of the National Anthem was great...

 

I forgot about Colorado...I was thinking about the Avalanche...silly me...

 

Honestly, I was not really paying attention to the show, I was perving her.

 

I skipped the National Anthem...

 

Sorry. Tell you what though.

 

Ill stand up for 4 minutes  for this rendition:

(partly because I dont do Gaga either!, Hendrix ROCKS!)

 

[balthazar]

 

B be fat.

I had to google that.

Not sure what you found via googling, but 'B' = Beyonce.

Some call it 'curves', some call it 'thick', I call it what it is : fat. She fat, and I'm not talking about phat.

[Robert Hall]

I turned the volume down during the halftime show...not as bad as The Black Eyed Peas a couple years ago.   My favorite half time shows over the last 15 years or so were U2, Bruce Springsteen, Prince, The Rolling Stones and The Who...

[Robert Hall]

 

 

B be fat.

I had to google that.

Not sure what you found via googling, but 'B' = Beyonce.

Some call it 'curves', some call it 'thick', I call it what it is : fat. She fat, and I'm not talking about phat.

 

She's also known as 'Bey' or 'Queen Bey'.... I wouldn't call her fat, more curvy and Rubenesque....a fat singer is Beth Ditto..

[oldshurst442]

 

 

B be fat.

I had to google that.

Not sure what you found via googling, but 'B' = Beyonce.

Some call it 'curves', some call it 'thick', I call it what it is : fat. She fat, and I'm not talking about phat.

 

Yes...exactly.

I got from the urban dictionary:

fat, chunky, junk in the trunk, obese...

 

So I immediately knew you were talking about my Beyonce post...

Even white boys got to shout

Baby got back!

 

Ill spare you guys with yet another video!

[oldshurst442]

I turned the volume down during the halftime show...not as bad as The Black Eyed Peas a couple years ago.   My favorite half time shows over the last 15 years or so were U2, Bruce Springsteen, Prince, The Rolling Stones and The Who...

Yep, I liked those too.

I liked Tom Petty as well.

 

I was talking to me partner today, he threw a Superbowl party. Always does.

Def Leppard should do one!

[Suaviloquent]

Well I done did better than I thought. I thinks.

[Cory Wolfe]

Feeling nostalgic. 

 

[oldshurst442]

I used own one of those brand new in the day...a teal/aqua blue green 1994 4 door GT...3.1 liter V6.

 

I loved it.

However, I would have preferred to have bought a 3.4 liter DOHC 1994 4 door Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme instead...

Edited February 9, 2016 by oldshurst442

[Thed]

 

 

Getting the Miata aligned to my specs. They're going to get it within 1/32 of my requests.

It should transform the car, the alignment felt terrible from the factory.

What was it doing that it felt bad?

Mainly, it didn't feel planted. Especially over bumps mid-corner. Plus the steering wheel was off-center.

Now that it's done, the car feels totally transformed. It feels like how everyone describes a Miata. It feels so sure-footed and just more eager. $130 well spent.

 

 

Here's the before and after. Like I said, the alignment before was just terrible. 

 

[ccap41]

Getting the Miata aligned to my specs. They're going to get it within 1/32 of my requests.

It should transform the car, the alignment felt terrible from the factory.

What was it doing that it felt bad?

Mainly, it didn't feel planted. Especially over bumps mid-corner. Plus the steering wheel was off-center.

Now that it's done, the car feels totally transformed. It feels like how everyone describes a Miata. It feels so sure-footed and just more eager. $130 well spent.

 

Here's the before and after. Like I said, the alignment before was just terrible. 

 

Holy $h!. How did it get so far out of spec?? Or did the factory just leave everything "yellow" because it was technically in spec but just bearly and the things red might have just nearly slipped out of spec?

[ccap41]

I used own one of those brand new in the day...a teal/aqua blue green 1994 4 door GT...3.1 liter V6.

 

I loved it.

However, I would have preferred to have bought a 3.4 liter DOHC 1994 4 door Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme instead...

3.1... Sound almost exactly like my first car, Beretta Z26.

[ccap41]

Some awesome pictures from the 24hrs.

 

http://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsports/g6594/rolex-24-gallery/?thumbnails

[G. David Felt]

Wow, Thanks for sharing, those are some big changes, This was from the Factory that way? If so I would make them pay for the alignment as that totally sucks.

[Suaviloquent]

So we got to watch how Tesla's are actually made... now this was more of a technical video which I actually can't find on the interwebs.

 

And you know that really hyped up Cadillac Omega platform with all these castings that make 10s of parts into one? Well I saw the same thing happening in the Model S. You have all these exotic looking polygon shapes that are a single piece. And they have this organic looking honeycomb like structure... yup it's there!

 

So like... how do I say it? They've already been doing something just now we think has been pioneered by GM. So I found this video, by Tesla, which in some moments shows off where it actually is in one of the parts of the car.

 

Anyways... up to you folks to see if you're hallucinating when you see what's before you. Got 00:36 mark on the video and you see a clear shot at what I'm talking about.

 

What do I think of this... well you don't win awards, become the upstart company that everyone wants to succeed everywhere by building a $h!ty car. Yeah they're going through a major transition... but that excellence of execution tough. It's there, laid bare to see. Go to the 00:36 second mark and see for yourselves.

 

[ocnblu]

Where has GM said they pioneered this construction?  I am sure if more homework is done, it will be shown to fanbois that Tesla did not invent this technique either.  Nice, erroneous sideways slip there also... "the upstart company that everyone wants to succeed everywhere..."

 

"KOOLAID 50 cents!!!  Get your Koolaid here!" 

[ocnblu]

Thed, from what I understand, alignment is checked only once in so many cars off the line, not every one.  I think a suspension alignment check should be performed as part of the dealer preparation of all new vehicles, especially after being tied down hard for shipping.

[Suaviloquent]

I wouldn't have made that post if I hadn't been force-fed that video from actually an operations related thing.

 

I had NO idea that any automaker was doing anything similar to what is being hyped by auto journalists about the GM Omega platform on the interwebs. Especially the honeycomb like structures...

 

All I'm saying is see for yourself and then ask if anything what is being hyped is actually a competitive advantage for GM for the long-term, when it's already in many production cars.

 

And then you hear that GM is going to use platforms for much longer, and I'm starting to see why El K said it might have some problems. Except I didn't think it's come from lowly Tesla of all places!!!

[oldshurst442]

 

 

Burning rubber...

AC/DC style...

 

High Voltage

Rock-N-Roll

Edited February 9, 2016 by oldshurst442

[ocnblu]

*CAUTION:  reduces battery range by 175%.  Do not attempt, unless you have a nice, long cord.

[ccap41]

 

 

Burning rubber...

AC/DC style...

 Those are some gnarly pictures!

*Like*

[Suaviloquent]

Hey Ccap... you know what I think of Ford GT (especially the GT-LM) if it didn't have a Ford badge on it?

 

It honestly makes me think of Lotus. Or what could have been something that Lotus would have attempted if things went their way. For example, Lotus also uses a fairly conventional V6 and supercharges it (from a Toyota Camry!). And that is mighty praise. No one has the brand like Lotus of just pure sports car. They're going for the extreme light weight and aero and great power. Not exactly crazy power, but more of the fundamentals of light weight and extreme aerodynamics...

 

I think driving the Ford GT will be a pure experience. I kind of think a long the lines that the Gt might be the 'Miata/S2000/Mr-2' of supercars. Space(age), grace and pace.

[ccap41]

Hey Ccap... you know what I think of Ford GT (especially the GT-LM) if it didn't have a Ford badge on it?

 

It honestly makes me think of Lotus. Or what could have been something that Lotus would have attempted if things went their way. For example, Lotus also uses a fairly conventional V6 and supercharges it (from a Toyota Camry!). And that is mighty praise. No one has the brand like Lotus of just pure sports car. They're going for the extreme light weight and aero and great power. Not exactly crazy power, but more of the fundamentals of light weight and extreme aerodynamics...

 

I think driving the Ford GT will be a pure experience. I kind of think a long the lines that the Gt might be the 'Miata/S2000/Mr-2' of supercars. Space(age), grace and pace.

I would agree with that for the most part. The only reason I don't is the size of the GT. When I think Lotus I think of smaller cars and everything you said as well but small is actually one of the first things I think of when I hear Lotus, because I instantly picture the Elise.

 

This is a good idea of the size of the car.

 

I hope it is the Miata/S2000 of super cars. That would be great praise.

[Suaviloquent]

Well, the footprint of the vehicle was dictated by the function. But it also looks long because the GT is absurdly low. Like the ratio of length to height is crazy, and I am also reminded of the Ferrari Enzo, another track focused beast... 

 

In terms of results at the 24 Hours Daytona.

 

I was not surprised at all at what happened. A brand new vehicle, getting its first real shake down... I think the media hype train really played up the prospects of the car, because of the coincidence of being a 50 year anniversary of their Le mans win.

 

This is what I think conventional mass brands should do for their exotics. More of a commemorative kind of deal, less a permanent fixture. Ferrari and Porshce and Mclaren and Mercedes, BMW, Honda, GM (the mass brands of which to an extent) make a living out of being at the forefront of performance in every aspect.

[ccap41]

Enzo, that's actually a good comparison for its general size and shape. Long, wide, super low. 

 

Yeah I didn't expect a great finish either. Growing pains... Brand new car gets thrown into a 24hr race as its first race..that's a lot for a new car to handle. 

[ccap41]

This one is for Suav. I know you're an active cyclist. 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/autos/pro-cyclist-hid-motor-her-193632266.html

 

Crazy somebody has so little self respect to use during competition. 

[ccap41]

[oldshurst442]

CCAP...

Concerning Cam..

 

All media fueled bullshyte.

 

There is only one thing I didnt like about Cam, he was sulking at that interview...

He should have taken it like a professional football player, like a MEAN football player. The way he handled it he was more of a grade school girl.

Football players are not supposed to sulk...

 

What he should have done, is be more like baseball's Barry Bonds, the media hated him too, only because he was not soft with the media, and he didnt give a phoque...

Cam was asked very dumb questions, just like Barry Bonds...Barry let the media know the questions were stupid...

 

Barry also lost a championship, you should have heard how he handled the media...

Sure, he faced scruntiny, what difference does that make?

 

Cam also faced scrutiny and he handled that situation quite the opposite way of the way Barry handled it...so...'tis better to let the media have it rather than be soft...

[ccap41]

CCAP...

Concerning Cam..

 

All media fueled bullshyte.

 

There is only one thing I didnt like about Cam, he was sulking at that interview...

He should have taken it like a professional football player, like a MEAN football player. The way he handled it he was more of a grade school girl.

Football players are not supposed to sulk...

 

What he should have done, is be more like baseball's Barry Bonds, the media hated him too, only because he was not soft with the media, and he didnt give a phoque...

Cam was asked very dumb questions, just like Barry Bonds...Barry let the media know the questions were stupid...

 

Barry also lost a championship, you should have heard how he handled the media...

Sure, he faced scruntiny, what difference does that make?

 

Cam also faced scrutiny and he handled that situation quite the opposite way of the way Barry handled it...so...'tis better to let the media have it rather than be soft...

 

I agree, Olds. 

 

He was sulking.. it wasn't the "most professional" thing to do but it is far from even "bad" in my opinion. Childish..yeah..but is that any worse than what Bill Belichick does every week with the media? We're just used to seeing those pearly whites of Cam that anything that isn't super positive turns into super negative. 

 

I just think it's funny how the double standard of certain players can be so vibrant. I love Peyton and I'm glad he won and hopefully he walks away on top of the world and possibly the best qb to have ever played the game..but  do find it worse to walk away without shaking hands than to be a child in front of some reporters.

 

Let's be honest here, this is the first time in Cam's LIFE that he's ever lost something meaningful that he was supposed to win. He doesn't know how to lose yet. He has gotten WORLDS better than when he first came into the league because he was quite pissy after games then too but he's matured a lot and still has a lot to keep going. He's young and hopefully this loss teaches him some thing. Mainly, how to lose and how to win. 

[oldshurst442]

 

CCAP...

Concerning Cam..

 

All media fueled bullshyte.

 

There is only one thing I didnt like about Cam, he was sulking at that interview...

He should have taken it like a professional football player, like a MEAN football player. The way he handled it he was more of a grade school girl.

Football players are not supposed to sulk...

 

What he should have done, is be more like baseball's Barry Bonds, the media hated him too, only because he was not soft with the media, and he didnt give a phoque...

Cam was asked very dumb questions, just like Barry Bonds...Barry let the media know the questions were stupid...

 

Barry also lost a championship, you should have heard how he handled the media...

Sure, he faced scruntiny, what difference does that make?

 

Cam also faced scrutiny and he handled that situation quite the opposite way of the way Barry handled it...so...'tis better to let the media have it rather than be soft...

 

I agree, Olds. 

 

He was sulking.. it wasn't the "most professional" thing to do but it is far from even "bad" in my opinion. Childish..yeah..but is that any worse than what Bill Belichick does every week with the media? We're just used to seeing those pearly whites of Cam that anything that isn't super positive turns into super negative. 

 

I just think it's funny how the double standard of certain players can be so vibrant. I love Peyton and I'm glad he won and hopefully he walks away on top of the world and possibly the best qb to have ever played the game..but  do find it worse to walk away without shaking hands than to be a child in front of some reporters.

 

Let's be honest here, this is the first time in Cam's LIFE that he's ever lost something meaningful that he was supposed to win. He doesn't know how to lose yet. He has gotten WORLDS better than when he first came into the league because he was quite pissy after games then too but he's matured a lot and still has a lot to keep going. He's young and hopefully this loss teaches him some thing. Mainly, how to lose and how to win. 

 

 

He also has to earn how to win.

I dont mean that he has to start winning. He has to learn to not gloat every time there is a touchdown made...

 

Listen CCAP...like I said, all this is media fueled bullshyte.

Yet, some of it, he has brought it on himself.

 

I get that in football, in American football,

it is quite the normal thing to showboat

1. when you sack the quarterback,

2. make a single touchdown...7 or 8 minutes into the FIRST QUARTER and the score in 7-0...

3. and then make another touchdown in the SECOND Quarter  with another 3-4 minutes left before half-time and the score is now TIED...

4. make a catch that is an instant 1st down and maybe gain another yard before getting tackled and  are at the 45 yard line...YOUR 45 yard line...

 

get what it is Im trying to say...

SHOWBOATING is getting really really tiring, and CAM seems to be thinking that he is still at the college level...

 

Not that im against Cam...Im not...

 

In my original post, I said that football players DONT sulk...

They simply DONT...

 

Football players are supposed to be the toughest, meanest SOB athletes on the planet...

There are exemptions of course...rugby and Australian rules rugby players and Lacrosse players come to mind...but American Football players are supposed to be even tougher than HOCKEY guys...

 

Yes, he shaked the hands of the players that defeated him...and THAT is why this is all media fueled BULLSHYTE...

 

MY problem is that he sulked...

I HATE the media for doing what they are doing...

MY personal beef is that he sulked...I dont care if its the first time he lost...

 

OK...cry at the press conference...answer the bloody questions like a man...dont be a man-child...a wussy and a   p  u  s  s y ...

 

 

I would prefer if his character was more like Barry Bonds...

Barry really did not give a phoque to what media and fans thought of him...

He KNEW he was a GREAT player and THAT is all that mattered...

He also knew that REAL fans ALSO knew he was a great player!

 

Cam is a FANTASTIC player....his ATTITUDE on the filed sucks and now his attitude OFF the field too...

What attitude?

 

His demeanor and how HE reacts when HE makes a play and now how HE reacts how he loses...

 

Example...

One of the last plays he made before the Superbowl was over...

After the snap, Cam has the ball, he turns to his right, and starts running to his right as he sees there is a bloody good chance he will get sacked...he leaves the pocket and finally releases the ball, to nowhere but he does get tackled...a fraction after he releases the ball, he hits his helmet where his ears are... like a child which is OK, but he also yells at the ref for not calling it roughing...by his gesture of hitting his helmet where his ears are...that looked to me that he is having a TANTRUM...like a child...then he yells at the ref...because he got tackled???

 

ITS FOOTBALL...

PHOQUE the 5-10 yard penalty...get your ass ready for another snap and DO IT YOURSELF!!! FIND THE ENDZONE YOURSELF!!!!

REAL CHAMPS FIND A WAY TO WIN!!!

 

EXAMPLE:

 

Tim Thomas...Boston Bruins goalie...the score is 4-0 for Boston...4-0 for Boston...he hits the Vancouver player so he could prevent the puck to fall unto that Vancouver player's stick so the score could STAY 4-0...risks a penalty...but its OK...the Vancouver player is on the ice...and did not score!

Needless to say...the Bruins went on to win the Stanley Cup...

 

What the Vancouver player should have done...is RUN Tim Thomas down...NOT the other way around...

Why?

He probably would have gotten a penalty...it does not matter, you JUST INTIMIDATED the BRUINS goalie in telling him...you may have won game 6...but game 7...your ass is mine...

 

What Tim Thomas said to Sedin, by hitting him...was exactly that...we won game 6...and game 7 is MINE!

 

Just a thought process I have for Cam Newton going forward.

 

Yeah...he sure has to learn a lot.

 

About the NFL...

 

I love the NFL...I dont like the NFL culture...(im starting to not like the NFL as a league though)

 

I dont like the NHL...as a league...very amateurish as compared to the MLB, NFL and NBA...

But I LOVE the NHL culture...

Showboating, it hardly exists...It exists only when it counts...

And the players still have the option to police themselves...

If an opposing coach/player does dumb, offensive, insulting, demeaning, excessive showboating...the league still tolerates fighting...

So...what Cam  or Ocho Cinco or anybody else does that rubs another opposing player the wrong way...in the NHL, fights still exists to which dumb gestures like that are kept at bay...

OK...fighting is coming to an end too, but...at least the NHL culture does not breed dumb showboating at the same time...so there  becomesa less and less need to fight...the players themselves respect the game and each other....something that the NFL sorely lacks...and hence the dumb media idiots that represent the NFL...

Edited February 12, 2016 by oldshurst442

[Suaviloquent]

This one is for Suav. I know you're an active cyclist. 

 

https://www.yahoo.com/autos/pro-cyclist-hid-motor-her-193632266.html

 

Crazy somebody has so little self respect to use during competition. 

 

Yeah, I've actually seen these things, how they -- err... (redacted)

[balthazar]

Found a series of 5 pics, all obviously recently taken, but no info.

Repro or original??

 

 

Owner stated it 'took 8 years to get it like it is today' - still unclear if that means restoration or fabrication…. but I believe I heard not too long ago that the Corvette Corvair had been found.

 

Same owner also owns the 9th '53 Corvette, which has a GM Shop Order # and featured 4 large diagonal gills on the front fender… but on one side only. Unrestored in pic. 

Edited February 14, 2016 by balthazar

[Robert Hall]

Apparently, the original Corvair concept is seafoam green, there is a recreation in red.  But the seafoam green was apparently scrapped in '57.   So it's a mystery, I suppose..

 

http://www.oldcarsweekly.com/news/hobby-news/legendary-1954-chevrolet-corvair-dream-car-recreated

Edited February 14, 2016 by Cubical-aka-Moltar

[balthazar]

I've spoken to David temple numerous times, we've worked out some concept detective work together (I maintain my own XP/SO car list). His Motorama book is excellent.

 

The above link is pretty much what's in said book, but clearly he states at least 2 Corvairs were built, and the red one was seen by 2 witnesses in the late '70s, then it disappeared. It, at least, seems to have a chance of still surviving. But yes; apparently 2 repros have been built, which means the one I posted is one of the repros. Very nice, either way!

[ocnblu]

I'd like to say Happy Valentine's Day and Happy One Year Anniversary to a very special person, my 2015 Chevrolet Colorado LT 3.6L 4X4.  I love you! 

 

 

[balthazar]

Guy posts pic of this car on FaceBook group:

Has one-off rear clip, was driven by ex-Buick GM harlow Curtice.

 

Here's a stock B-60 rear for comparison :

 

- - - - 

He claims, due to the steel worker's strike in '60, that this was a proposal for the '61 Buick. The rear clip on the white car is fiberglass, you see.

Doesn't pass the smell test.

Balthy : "I was always under the impression that this was an "alternate '60" for a GM exec (Curtice rings the bell here), NOT a proposal for '61. It wears a "GM Styling" badge on the front fender, and I believe the rear clip is fiberglass. If this were a (fully finished, drivable) '61 proposal, how have we missed the same concept proposals (or even sketches) of the other 4 GM division's "warmed over '60" '61s'?"

 

Guy : 

 

Balthy : "RE the pics above, clearly those were all new front & rear, vs. the white 225 which is 2/3rds production and picks up one of the concept's rear clip out back. That to me is a 'one-off special' rather than the white 225 being a '61 proposal' per say."

 

Guy : "Well, apparently you weren't around in 1960 when the steel workers went on strike and left the automakers scrambling to find steel. Buick dealers wanted Buick to dump the round taillights because they made the car look too much like a Ford. If you didn't live through that era, you should reserve comment."

 

Well, the steel strike was actually in '59- lasted about 4 months. Still doesn't support the initial claim.

 

Balthy : "IMO, the only way this white 225 conv was constructed with a long term steel shortage in mind & actual production is that it was intended to be built as a production fiberglass/steel hybrid body. With GM's fairly extensive experience at this point with full FG bodies (Corvette & numerous concepts), a hybrid body really doesn't seem to make much practical engineering sense, nor does it do much to address the actual steel content in cars.

Additionally, the quartet of proposed '60s above shows a GM common practice; to build near-production cars in FG with 'glass' windows to most accurately gauge their aesthetics. I note that all of the above quartet show all new sheet metal designs, which would require all new steel stamping dies for each Division. Were they evidence of similar programs at the other Divisions, wouldn't they have production '60 front clips & greenhouses mated to these non-production rear designs??"

 

Another poster : "I recall reading in several articles in the past that this Buick was built specifically for Red Curtis. It was never intended for production."

 

Guy : "Well, I don't know what drivel you've been reading, but it is in fact a 1961 proposal. This car appeared in Old Cars Weekly in the late 1970s with full details of it's purpose."

 

Balthy rolls up his sleeves : "Current owner stated on CLC board that the 225 conv bears a 'SO' tag dated 1-27-60. GM would be working on setting the styling of the '62s by the beginning of '60, Jan of '60 is only 7 months before the assembly plants shut down to convert to next year production. The timeline is off for this car to be intended for '61 production.

Look at '59; Chevy had their near-production, fully finished FG '59 photographed in October of 1957, 23 months before their showroom debut."

 

/ case closed.

Edited February 15, 2016 by balthazar

[ocnblu]

Those are factory '61 taillights though, right?  Way to go, Balthy, The Yoda of Vintage Cars!

[ocnblu]

When I have time to kill and I go dreaming at "build & price" sites, I keep forgetting about building a Ford Edge.  It's a 2-row crossover, reasonably sporty and available with a V6... hmmm...

[balthazar]

Those are factory '61 taillights though, right? 

Very similar concept, but no where near interchangable.