Random Thoughts Thread

[ccap41]

5 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

Yeah, that lime green is gross...like athletic wear or something.   I do like the cranberry red and black two tone option.

It looks terrible in the animated pictures. I'm curious what it looks like in person. It certainly wouldn't be towards the top of my list but at least they give you more than black, grey, and lighter grey as options. 

[oldshurst442]

 

THAT is as colourful as it gets...  

Small red trim on the door, yet the surrounding window and dash is still that awful black.  Its got an option for carbon fibre or brushed alu/nickel on the steering wheel and on the glove box, etc...  But its limited...

Im NOT blasting ONLY Mercedes.  But all manufacturers do NOT do  the colour pallette like how the 1950s were.  I think colour needs to come back to interiors in a BIG way.   

 

Edited August 27, 2020 by oldshurst442

[Robert Hall]

A lot of it is context also...in a daily driver sedan or SUV I want a light interior (not gray).  In a sports car, my ideal is a two-tone like black and red.   

[oldshurst442]

I actually like that lime green. Of course those lime green touches have to be in a vehicle worthy of that kind of extrovertedness.

A Mercedes AMG GT for example.  Because we are talking about a Mercedes interior at this point in time...

 

 

 

[ccap41]

1 minute ago, oldshurst442 said:

 

THAT is as colourful as it gets...  

Small red trim on the door, yet the surrounding window and dash is still that awful black.  I got an otion for carbon fibre or brushed alu/nickel on the steering wheel and on the glove box, etc...

Im NOT blasting ONLY Mercedes,  But all manufacturers do NOT do  the colour pallette like how the 1950s were.  I think colour needs to come back to interiors in a BIG way.   

 

What are you talking about? There is more than one vehicle with some red interior. You're looking at ONE 50's car. I doubt every 50's car had all sorts of color choices, I could be wrong. 

 

[Robert Hall]

I couldn't care less about the 50s, but as recent as the 80s-90s there were a lot more interior color choices in mainstream cars, not just luxury cars.   Lots of red interiors then also. 

My '86 Mustang LX had a red interior...

Edited August 27, 2020 by Robert Hall

[oldshurst442]

3 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

there were a lot more interior color choices in mainstream cars, not just luxury cars.   Lots of red interiors then also. 

I was just about to write that.   But with a 1950s and 1960s angle.  But you are 100% right. From the 1950s to the '60s to the '70s and well into the early '80s.  I think it slowly got crappy in the 1980s when cheap gray plastics entered the fray. And then black was the go to colour choice. 

[balthazar]

It was plastic that were the culprit. Cheap & easy to make black slurry & pump it into a mold- pop out 100,000 at a clip. Disposable mindset.

My lament isn't colors as much as it's materials - far too much plastic in cars since the '80s. Yuck.

[trinacriabob]

This speaks my language.  This is right about where burgundy should be. 

I can deal with the hard steering wheel, having had this in a Brougham, but my major heartache is that someone went through the trouble of ordering their base Cutlass Supreme (coupe) with bucket seats and a console but didn't spring for the gauge package over a boring strip speedometer ... and a clock that would be where the Olds logo is on the fake wood applique.

As I was scouring for photos, I also ran into this one.  The occasional Regal S/R colonnade is like a needle in a haystack compared to Cutlass models with bucket seats (Salon, Calais, etc.) of the same years.  What a beautiful set up of bucket seats, a nicely trimmed Riviera-like console, and a trestle shifter.  Who can forget this really unique car?

Edited August 27, 2020 by trinacriabob

[oldshurst442]

3 hours ago, ccap41 said:

Gotta get maximum light for Olds, so he doesn't feel like he's in a prison. 

I just saw that.  Very funny.  

Nice interior indeed.  Yes, less like a prison I must admit.    

[G. David Felt]

I like a warm brown interior. Earthy, but warm and not sterile like a white or tan interior comes across. 

[ccap41]

I'm okay with a very light interior as long as it is accented with darker colors. I would never want an interior as light as the above pictures G-Wagen. 

[Robert Hall]

I like what Genesis has been doing with interiors...like the colors in these...

[G. David Felt]

Just now, Robert Hall said:

I like what Genesis has been doing with interiors...like the colors in these...

Those are awesome interiors.

[daves87rs]

11 hours ago, Robert Hall said:

Seems like GM really cheaps out on interior color choices unless you spring for an Cadillac higher trim or Corvette...too many blah black and dark gray cave interiors..

Also hearing about less color choices now to save some cash.....

[ccap41]

15 hours ago, Robert Hall said:

I like what Genesis has been doing with interiors...like the colors in these...

I LOVE the use of blues here!

[oldshurst442]

16 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

I LOVE the use of blues here!

I LOVE the use of Blues too...

by the Canucks

(in a way the Bruins couldnt last year)  

wink wink

[balthazar]

[ccap41]

3 hours ago, oldshurst442 said:

I LOVE the use of Blues too...

by the Canucks

(in a way the Bruins couldnt last year)  

wink wink

Straight to the heart strings there... ?

[Drew Dowdell]

Three completely different driving styles, roughly the same results:

Picture it, Sicily, 1922.... 

 

No wait... Pennsylvania, 2020...

Myself in the Toronado and a new Jeep Compass in front of me at the light. To my right, an Audi S5.

The light changes and the Compass takes off quickly, not flooring it, but being aggressive.  I'm right behind him, flooring it just to keep up. (it's a sharp uphill slope)

The S5 is just cruising effortlessly next to both of us without a care in the world.

Three different throttle positions, same speed and acceleration achieved. 

23 hours ago, Robert Hall said:

I like these Lincoln Aviator interiors..some dark trim, but lots of light..

This Cadillac XT5 interior isn't bad either.  Light interior w/ a big sunroof would be optimal. (I like lots of light in a climate w/ a lot of cloudy days).  

I really like the Aviator inside and out.  It's on the short list for an Encore replacement in a few years unless we find a perfect S90 in the meantime. 

[Robert Hall]

4 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

 

I really like the Aviator inside and out.  It's on the short list for an Encore replacement in a few years unless we find a perfect S90 in the meantime. 

Nice..I could see myself with a V90..love the interior and exterior design..

[G. David Felt]

[G. David Felt]

ALERT: GM moved their Corvette Engineering Team to the EV Team. This could signal the shift for a performance focused Electric Corvette. There is a much smaller team left on the ICE Corvette, but it seems that the future will focus on Electric.

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1129406_chevy-corvette-engineers-moved-to-ev-team-at-gm

[ocnblu]

1 hour ago, David said:

ALERT: GM moved their Corvette Engineering Team to the EV Team. This could signal the shift for a performance focused Electric Corvette. There is a much smaller team left on the ICE Corvette, but it seems that the future will focus on Electric.

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1129406_chevy-corvette-engineers-moved-to-ev-team-at-gm

More crappy news out of Barra's GM.  What else is new.

[trinacriabob]

8 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

Picture it, Sicily, 1922.... 

No wait... 

While it was all fictitious, she must have had a pair to be able to boss someone with Beatrice Arthur's persona around, not to mention her late husband.  This little lady had a grating voice.  My mom used to watch this show. 

[trinacriabob]

The random thing I was really going to say:  as I was driving to the dealership today for a routine maintenance item, I thought about DASHBOARDS.  Given how much I disliked the dash in that Toyota Rav 4 I was given as a rental recently, I wouldn't own one.  I almost think that, if you don't "connect" with the dashboard and the car's interior, you should NOT buy that car.  You will be in that cabin for years ... and years (if you're like me).

[oldshurst442]

8 hours ago, ccap41 said:

Straight to the heart strings there... ?

Im sorry.

I thought I was being funny. I didnt mean to twist a knife into the heart...  

If its any consolation, the Bruins wont get past Tampa.  And although I hate the Habs, I do want them to get #25 before any other Canadian team wins the Cup and that wont be happening either this year.  

 

[balthazar]

Gauge pod section of B-59 speedometer, about 18" wide and white, or 'pot' metal.
Got a quote to have it rechromed. Any guesses?
 

[daves87rs]

3 hours ago, ocnblu said:

More crappy news out of Barra's GM.  What else is new.

Well, the good news is that we still get to smell gas and oil for a while. ? 

I was talking to a buddy of mine whose wife works deep in GM, and they had some thoughts and suggestions to bring Pontiac back with Hummer as an EV only brand. ( I am guessing the thought is so that Buick would be China only) The only reason  I could see that would be to bring some EVs with some personality and style, and still look like a regular car........

Not sure how I would feel if they brought the name back like that.......

[ocnblu]

4 hours ago, daves87rs said:

Not sure how I would feel if they brought the name back like that.......

Ohhh I know how I feel about it.

5 hours ago, balthazar said:

Gauge pod section of B-59 speedometer, about 18" wide and white, or 'pot' metal.
Got a quote to have it rechromed. Any guesses?
 

$125?

[ocnblu]

 

[G. David Felt]

9 hours ago, balthazar said:

Gauge pod section of B-59 speedometer, about 18" wide and white, or 'pot' metal.
Got a quote to have it rechromed. Any guesses?
 

$1,200 for the dip.

[ocnblu]

1955

[daves87rs]

1800 for the rechrome

[balthazar]

No one is close yet on the chrome price...

[G. David Felt]

13 minutes ago, balthazar said:

No one is close yet on the chrome price...

Higher or lower? Hint Please

[Robert Hall]

12 hours ago, balthazar said:

Gauge pod section of B-59 speedometer, about 18" wide and white, or 'pot' metal.
Got a quote to have it rechromed. Any guesses?
 

$479.38.  Instead of rechroming, how about plasti dipping all the interior brightwork in matte black? 

Edited August 29, 2020 by Robert Hall

[balthazar]

I would initially think that ocnblu in his line of work, would have a decent line on it, except for the teeny fact that body shops never rechrome anything. Ever. If they could order pre-painted body panels, (Fiero days?), they wouldn't even paint anything.

Robert is actually the closest; quote was $625. Half-heartedly, I'm looking at 'chrome alternatives', but my preference is the real thing. The majority of trim is stainless, but there's other pieces to do, also. Namely: bumpers. Sigh.

[balthazar]

[ocnblu]

2 hours ago, balthazar said:

Yeah there isn't much quality chrome on vehicles these days, let alone metal, period.  Even truck step bumpers consist of painted reinforcements with chrome trim pieces bolted to the reinforcement.  Interior metals?  Forget about it. 

Is that a Continental, around '66-'68?

Sry for the facetious answer on the chroming, I knew it would be much more than what I quoted.

So, I mean, is the potmetal pitted?  It usually develops pits, I was wondering what could be done with a good polishing.

[Robert Hall]

12 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

Yeah there isn't much quality chrome on vehicles these days, let alone metal, period.  Even truck step bumpers consist of painted reinforcements with chrome trim pieces bolted to the reinforcement.  Interior metals?  Forget about it. 

Is that a Continental, around '66-'68?

I didn’t realize there was a car in that pic until you mentioned it.  Had to zoom in, looks like a ‘66-67 Continental.  ‘68 moved the parking lights out of the bumper to the fender corners.  

[balthazar]

1 hour ago, ocnblu said:

Sry for the facetious answer on the chroming, I knew it would be much more than what I quoted.

 

So, I mean, is the potmetal pitted?  It usually develops pits, I was wondering what could be done with a good polishing.

Yes- there is some pitting. Most is very minor... some are larger. Overall it's not bad, and many would shine it as best they could & live with it. But you couldn't polish them all out. Nervous about polishing so much that details/edges are altered. I do have a spare one tho.
I wanted to have ONE nice material thing in my life... plus they say money is germy.

[ocnblu]

50 minutes ago, balthazar said:

plus they say money is germy

well then get rid of it

 

[G. David Felt]

Was  Walla Walla Sweet Onion Harvest day. Grew and harvested all 76 onions. They are laid out to cure and then will enjoy them over the next 3 months. Sweet enough to eat like an Apple.

Seems Ford is finding plenty of heat lately as a Law firm files a class action lawsuite over the 2017-2019 Fuel economy of the F-150 and Ranger. Seems those Turbo's DO NOT give you V6 fuel economy with V8 power unless you guzzle gas like a V8.

Ford is also under Federal criminal investigation for emission and stated fuel economy standards for their auto fleet.

https://fordauthority.com/2019/07/ford-class-action-lawsuit-filed-over-f-150-and-ranger/#:~:text=Ford Class Action Lawsuit Filed Over F-150 And,vehicles in the 2017 to 2019 model years.

[Robert Hall]

23 hours ago, trinacriabob said:

The random thing I was really going to say:  as I was driving to the dealership today for a routine maintenance item, I thought about DASHBOARDS.  Given how much I disliked the dash in that Toyota Rav 4 I was given as a rental recently, I wouldn't own one.  I almost think that, if you don't "connect" with the dashboard and the car's interior, you should NOT buy that car.  You will be in that cabin for years ... and years (if you're like me).

Agreed....when I'm considering a new car, I try to spend time studying the interior and esp. the ergonomics and sightlines...really the interior is more important to me than exterior styling, since the interior is where you are...for years.   Part of why I so strongly dislike gray or all black interiors, I want some color and light inside.  Things like seat adjustability and feel of the steering wheel, location of the primary controls, etc..all of that is important to me.. 

[USA-1]

On 8/27/2020 at 5:47 AM, David said:

No silver available, but a  very nice Satin Steel is.

https://www.gmc.com/trucks/sierra/1500/at4

Yep, that's my next truck, Sierra AT4 in Satin Steel Met. Gray, 6.2L, 10AT, Carbon, M-Pro. I like the monochromatic look of the black chrome grille or like my current '18 K2XX Silvy Z71 Crew with the body color grille, bumpers, door handles and mirror caps. I'll pass on all the chrome, it was "cool" in HS, not now and I'm just fine with black leather interior, thank you I've had Cashmere leather interior (Cadillac's cream color) and medium gray they just get old, I get sick of looking at the tan or cream colors for sure. Dark gray interior I'm good with as well.  

Edited August 30, 2020 by USA-1

[oldshurst442]

I agree to that sentiment above 100%, about the interior and dashboard and all that.  However, for me, the exterior is what counts more.  I know when you are driving the vehicle, its the interior that you get to experience the most all those years with the car, but, when you are walking up to the car, its the exterior you are getting to see.   That love at first sight feeling.  The, I cant wait to drive the shyte out of you feeling...   When you are washing the vehicle, its the exterior you are caressing and rubbing and soaping up and feeling the contours of...   In other words, for me at least,  she's got to look good on the outside.  Beauty for a car,  unlike for a human, beauty being skin deep is a good thing for me.  And what I seek for when Im cruising for a new ride.    

Yes...a car's exterior has got to invoke that passion.   I could live with a cup holder/button/gear selector/RPM gauge not being in the "optimal" position.  I could learn to cope with it, to adjust.  But if the vehicle Im spending my hard earned money is not exactly to my liking on the outside,  then I aint buying it.

The next criteria for me would be on its driving characteristics.  Looks and driving characteristics easily 1 and 2. And they  are both interchangeable.  And third would be interior and interior ergonomics.  

 

 

Edited August 30, 2020 by oldshurst442

[USA-1]

21 minutes ago, USA-1 said:

Yep, that's my next truck, Sierra AT4 in Satin Steel Met. Gray, 6.2L, 10AT, Carbon, M-Pro. I like the monochromatic look of the black chrome grille or like my current '18 K2XX Silvy Z71 Crew with the body color grille, bumpers, door handles and mirror caps. I'll pass on all the chrome, it was "cool" in HS, not now and I'm just fine with black leather interior, thank you I've had Cashmere leather interior (Cadillac's cream color) and medium gray they just get old, I get sick of looking at the tan or cream colors for sure. Dark gray interior I'm good with as well.  

AND the light color tans/cream or light gray leathers get stained from dark colored slacks or blue jeans rubbing off on them, even if you're careful not to slide too much on the seat when getting in or out. Very annoying!

Edited August 30, 2020 by USA-1

[G. David Felt]

Seems the hot selling SUV's from Hyundai and Kia are smelling in heat 80 degrees and above. The Auto company is looking into it, but does not have a solution yet.

https://jalopnik.com/the-hyundai-palisade-literally-stinks-owners-1844881275

[USA-1]

5 minutes ago, David said:

Seems the hot selling SUV's from Hyundai and Kia are smelling in heat 80 degrees and above. The Auto company is looking into it, but does not have a solution yet.

https://jalopnik.com/the-hyundai-palisade-literally-stinks-owners-1844881275

Just read that too. Pretty fitting IMO...

Edited August 30, 2020 by USA-1