Random Thoughts Thread

[G. David Felt]

WOW, Alaska Airlines and Southwest to cut scheduled flights and furlough employees as people flying has dropped majorly. Companies have also stated they have informed Boeing of delaying delivers of new planes.

Economy will see a big hit this quarter.

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/alaska-southwest-battered-by-decline-in-air-travel-due-to-coronavirus-prepare-to-cut-flights/

[Robert Hall]

40 minutes ago, dfelt said:

 

For those that like Engineering projects, the worlds longest pedestrain bridge is being built at SeaTac airport to connect the international arrival terminal to the main airport rather than have everything under ground. Pretty impressive on the web site.

https://www.portseattle.org/blog/five-fast-facts-about-iaf-pedestrian-walkway

The pictures and video are very cool to see the big planes taxing underneath it. To be completed and opened this coming fall.

 

Really cool...I do like airports and aircraft in terms of the infrastructure and operational aspects... 

[G. David Felt]

Love tech, Toyota new system for building HD road maps for supercruise like auto driving is impressive. One has to wonder how GM is doing it.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/toyota-self-driving-car-mapping-system-satellite/

Iron Hand is the cool new tech GM is using to reduce repetitive hand injuries on the assembly line. Very cool tech read.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/gm-ironhand-robotic-grip/

[G. David Felt]

Dow Drops 6.6%, down 20% now and they say we are officially in BEAR territory. 

https://www.barrons.com/articles/treasury-bonds-sell-off-with-stocks-thats-not-supposed-to-happen-51583946108

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/the-dow-enters-bear-market-territory-during-wednesday-trading-2020-03-11

Recession anyone? ?

Will say this, my 401K investment from each weeks paycheck will buy me lots more now for my far, far, far in the future retirement.

[balthazar]

There are traditionally 8 markers for a recession, but most are still solidly positive (such as unemployment, housing, etc). Stock market levels alone do not determine economic recessions, and even within the market, the indicators are that the recent dip is headline-driven, not fundamentals-driven.

Sorry Mr Felt, can’t celebrate yet! ?

[G. David Felt]

Good read here on the market: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-stocks/wall-street-tumbles-dow-confirms-bear-market-idUSKBN20Y1FR

Boeing freezes hiring, draws down on loans due to Max and Coronavirus issues.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-boeing-737max-cuts-exclusive/boeing-to-freeze-hiring-as-cash-woes-mount-over-coronavirus-737-max-idUSKBN20Y2LE?il=0

[balthazar]

Dry, with no analysis.

[Robert Hall]

Reality is complex..going to be interesting what happens over the next few months.

[G. David Felt]

Ford has some cool history they updated to their Corporate home page.

History is cool over headlights and taillights with nice old pics.

https://corporate.ford.com/articles/history/exterior-lighting-history.html

They continue the History theme with a Century of Progress page with pics and links.

https://corporate.ford.com/articles/history/century-of-progress.html

Ford then goes Modern with covering their new 3D printed locking lug nuts.

https://corporate.ford.com/articles/products/3d-printed-locking-wheel-nuts.html

Ford is wrapping up their home page of info with w Driving Skills for Life 2020 tour that will help new drivers learn better driving skills. 80 training camps across 18 cities for the year.

https://corporate.ford.com/articles/community/ford-driving-skills-for-life-safe-driving-tour.html

[ocnblu]

Chevrolet finally updated their page with a Trailblazer Build&Price capability.  "Mine" is $26,740.

[G. David Felt]

26 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

Chevrolet finally updated their page with a Trailblazer Build&Price capability.  "Mine" is $26,740.

So tough looking FWD Appliance for your mom?

[ocnblu]

6 minutes ago, dfelt said:

So tough looking FWD Appliance for your mom?

Well she could only afford an L, and that is with my help.  The price I quoted above is an LT AWD for me.

[balthazar]

1 hour ago, dfelt said:

Ford has some cool history they updated to their Corporate home page.

History is cool over headlights and taillights with nice old pics.

https://corporate.ford.com/articles/history/exterior-lighting-history.html

Mistake! "New sealed beam headlamps increased the distance of lighting on the roadway in front of a vehicle and were introduced in 1955 as the new standard..."
Ford debuted sealed beam headlights across the board in 1940. I should know- I own one (and have read this dozens of times).

Edited March 11, 2020 by balthazar

[Robert Hall]

1 minute ago, balthazar said:

Mistake! "New sealed beam headlamps increased the distance of lighting on the roadway in front of a vehicle and were introduced in 1955 as the new standard..."
Ford debuted sealed beam headlights across the board in 1940. I should know- I own one (and have read this dozens of times).

Pretty much all automakers in the US went to sealed beam in '40, didn't they?   Never was sure why they were called 'sealed beam'...so were their predecessors 'non sealed' ?

[balthazar]

Not sure without checking RE the 1940 standard.
Yes; prior to, the lense & reflector stayed with the vehicle and you replaced the bulb. Obviously, we've gone back to 'non-sealed' beams... probably since the composite headlight came around.

Edited March 11, 2020 by balthazar

[Robert Hall]

3 minutes ago, balthazar said:

Not sure without checking RE the 1940 standard.
Yes; prior to, the lense & reflector stayed with the vehicle and you replaced the bulb. Obviously, we've gone back to 'non-sealed' beams... probably since the composite headlight came around.

Ok, so the bulb was sealed in the lens/reflector housing..I remember how the big round lights used on '60s-70s cars looked when removed...

There was some variety in headlight lens shapes in the 30s, IIRC from pictures I've seen the '39 Plymouth for example had squarish lights. 

Edited March 11, 2020 by Robert Hall

[balthazar]

Yes- from what I've seen the pre-war lights worked like modern lights (bulb vs. housing).
I know the Plymouth lights- I think it's the Graham about the same time had sharply peaked headlight lenses. And others. Ruxton lights:

Edmund & Jones Type 20 (aftermarket) :

Edited March 11, 2020 by balthazar

[Robert Hall]

I like the front end on the late Grahams...saw one at a show once.  Some Streamline Moderne/art deco influences in that front trim..

 

Edited March 12, 2020 by Robert Hall

[balthazar]

I want to like them, and a few perfect angles make them look pretty good (dead on from the front), but a lot of awkwardness & the 'flow' is not there for me.

[USA-1]

On 3/9/2020 at 7:06 PM, dfelt said:

Bronco looks good, yet I have to wonder about quality as Ford has not been hitting that lately.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/32517/this-is-the-2021-ford-bronco-sport-completely-uncovered

https://www.thedrive.com/news/32493/here-are-the-2021-bronco-photos-ford-doesnt-want-you-to-see

https://www.thedrive.com/news/32523/this-might-be-a-photo-of-the-real-2021-ford-bronco

https://jalopnik.com/2021-ford-bronco-sport-this-is-it-1842211520

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/2021-ford-bronco-revealed-leaked/

Mini Pickups I believe have always had a spot in society especially in the inner city.

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/ford-ranger-pickup-truck-dealers/

Will be interesting that is for sure especially if gas hits $1 a gallon due to the global economy and the oil war between Russia, Saudi Arabia and the US.

Too bad you won't fit in any of them! Maybe if you rip out the front seat and sit in the back seat to drive like Hightower in Police Academy

[USA-1]

4 hours ago, dfelt said:

Dow Drops 6.6%, down 20% now and they say we are officially in BEAR territory. 

https://www.barrons.com/articles/treasury-bonds-sell-off-with-stocks-thats-not-supposed-to-happen-51583946108

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/the-dow-enters-bear-market-territory-during-wednesday-trading-2020-03-11

Recession anyone? ?

Will say this, my 401K investment from each weeks paycheck will buy me lots more now for my far, far, far in the future retirement.

We can thank the nasty, wet grocery markets in China for Coronavirus/COVID-19 and their initial lack of response in alerting the world...and now the current stock markets ebb and flow around the world from the uncertainty of virus community spread.

Won't be a full recession financial crash like '08, just certain industries will suffer like airlines, cruise ship industry, some retail etc... Banks are flush with cash as per comments today from top execs from the big three, Chase, BofA and Wells and payroll tax cut on the way for all. 

Are they getting it under control up there in WA yet? Heard the State bought an old Econo Lodge motel in Kent for a quarantine place.

[G. David Felt]

42 minutes ago, USA-1 said:

We can thank the nasty, wet grocery markets in China for Coronavirus/COVID-19 and their initial lack of response in alerting the world...and now the current stock markets ebb and flow around the world from the uncertainty of virus community spread.

Won't be a full recession financial crash like '08, just certain industries will suffer like airlines, cruise ship industry, some retail etc... Banks are flush with cash as per comments today from top execs from the big three, Chase, BofA and Wells and payroll tax cut on the way for all. 

Are they getting it under control up there in WA yet? Heard the State bought an old Econo Lodge motel in Kent for a quarantine place.

Yes Washington has it under control and no the Econo lodge hotel did not get bought to be used as a quarantine site.

Right now the official state report is 29 dead with 297 infected and almost 1700 under quarantine at their homes awaiting test results.

DC does not like the states releasing information to the press, but I am glad the states are not listening to the incompetance in DC. Over all Evergreen Hospital which is in front of the Assisted living for Seniors in their final months of life has done an outstanding job of healing those that could heal, making those in their final days comfortable and having no patient to patient infections or employees sick. Have a solid handle on this. State has banned any and all large gatherings, trade shows are canceled till June or July for in state, pretty much not bad.

How is it in your part of the woods?

[USA-1]

2 minutes ago, dfelt said:

Yes Washington has it under control and no the Econo lodge hotel did not get bought to be used as a quarantine site.

Right now the official state report is 29 dead with 297 infected and almost 1700 under quarantine at their homes awaiting test results.

DC does not like the states releasing information to the press, but I am glad the states are not listening to the incompetance in DC. Over all Evergreen Hospital which is in front of the Assisted living for Seniors in their final months of life has done an outstanding job of healing those that could heal, making those in their final days comfortable and having no patient to patient infections or employees sick. Have a solid handle on this. State has banned any and all large gatherings, trade shows are canceled till June or July for in state, pretty much not bad.

How is it in your part of the woods?

??

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/06/washington-state-coronavirus-kent-motel

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-03-05/seattle-area-officials-buy-4-million-quarantine-motel

 

Only 2 confirmed cases in AZ and one was over a month ago and the guy recovered already. Definitely have a handle on it here, our Governor, Doug Ducey, already has emergency relief plan ready to go if need be.

We all need to not panic, that's the worst that can happen and that has been relayed from our top doctors in the nation. MSM has blown this up and made this virus very political. Lets not forget that in 2009-2010 that 61 million Americans got Swine flu (H1N1) and nearly 12,500 in total died from it with 1,000 passing away before DC did anything about it at the time.

This flu season CDC estimates that there have been at least 34 million flu illnesses and 20,000 deaths have occurred so far this year. Some pretty eye opening statistics.

 

 

[G. David Felt]

15 minutes ago, USA-1 said:

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/06/washington-state-coronavirus-kent-motel

https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2020-03-05/seattle-area-officials-buy-4-million-quarantine-motel

 

Only 2 confirmed cases in AZ and one was over a month ago and the guy recovered already. Definitely have a handle on it here, our Governor, Doug Ducey, already has emergency relief plan ready to go if need be.

We all need to not panic, that's the worst that can happen and that has been relayed from our top doctors in the nation. MSM has blown this up and made this virus very political. Lets not forget that in 2009-2010 that 61 million Americans got Swine flu (H1N1) and nearly 12,500 in total died from it with 1,000 passing away before DC did anything about it at the time.

This flu season CDC estimates that there have been at least 34 million flu illnesses and 20,000 deaths have occurred so far this year. Some pretty eye opening statistics.

News is behind local news and the lawsuit the city filed against King County to stop them from buying the hotel and using it as a Covad19 site. Pretty much I think most of the cases will be handled at hospitals here. Course if the Idiots in DC and the Idiots in China did not delay and hid info from the states that had so much air travel, we could have probably kept it from getting so bad.

[ykX]

I went yesterday to Costco to do some shopping.  Usually Wednesday is very quiet day to do that.  Yesterday I had hard time finding parking space, the store was full.  There were NO toilet paper, No paper towels, NO packaged chicken, NO ground beef.  I see people buying 4-5 cases of water.  Simply crazy, people are going completely nuts and it is only the beginning.

[ccap41]

15 hours ago, dfelt said:

Ford then goes Modern with covering their new 3D printed locking lug nuts.

https://corporate.ford.com/articles/products/3d-printed-locking-wheel-nuts.html

The "custom" locking lug nut seems like a brilliant idea but what happens when Joe Jabroni loses his key? Bring the vehicle in and they pull the VIN and order a new one and you get it in 7 weeks...for $200? 

Edited March 12, 2020 by ccap41

[oldshurst442]

The European soccer leagues are banning fans and on the verge to cancel/delay their seasons...

Tom Hanks and his wife Rita Wilson just announced they tested positive for this shyte. 

The phoquing NBA just DELAYED their phoquing season...(after a player has tested positive for covid 19) 

Italy literally closing up shop 24 hours ago. I mean...no businesses are allowed to be open other than pharmacies and grocery stores and ONLY 10 people shopping at a time.

This is getting pretty phoquing serious.

In Quebec...only 5 people are infected (so far) and 1 person has died. In Canada, I think with are at  118 with 8 or 9 deaths. Most cases in B.C., Alberta and Ontario. We were at 62 a couple of days ago.  That is how it started in Italy. They were at 60 and ballooned to the 1000s within a week or so. 

Montrealers arent panicking yet. 

 

 

 

 

[ccap41]

12 hours ago, USA-1 said:

Too bad you won't fit in any of them! Maybe if you rip out the front seat and sit in the back seat to drive like Hightower in Police Academy

The top comes off, HE MIGHT FIT! ?

[oldshurst442]

Blast from the past (since @USA-1 's post made me and several others laugh)

Things I remember from Police Academy...and sequels...

Trans Am!!!  

Which reminds me...about customers.

"Now Im a people guy."   I use that phrase all the time when a customer pisses me off. I play that phrase in my head and I dont lose all my shyte with them...

 

EDIT: 

Ive come to realize...playing this back...the beginning of death metal?  (His voice and the way his song goes on his 1st album)

 

Edited March 12, 2020 by oldshurst442

[USA-1]

3 hours ago, oldshurst442 said:

Blast from the past (since @USA-1 's post made me and several others laugh)

Things I remember from Police Academy...and sequels...

Trans Am!!!  

Which reminds me...about customers.

"Now Im a people guy."   I use that phrase all the time when a customer pisses me off. I play that phrase in my head and I dont lose all my shyte with them...

 

EDIT: 

Ive come to realize...playing this back...the beginning of death metal?  (His voice and the way his song goes on his 1st album)

 

Police Academy franchise is definitely an old school classic favorite and always will be. TA scene is epic! Moses Hightowers Honda CVCC "interior modification" scene is one of my favs. You definitely found 3 clips of some of the best scenes. Always a good laugh! ?????

Edited March 12, 2020 by USA-1

[G. David Felt]

4 hours ago, oldshurst442 said:

The European soccer leagues are banning fans and on the verge to cancel/delay their seasons...

Tom Hanks and his wife Rita Wilson just announced they tested positive for this shyte. 

The phoquing NBA just DELAYED their phoquing season...(after a player has tested positive for covid 19) 

Italy literally closing up shop 24 hours ago. I mean...no businesses are allowed to be open other than pharmacies and grocery stores and ONLY 10 people shopping at a time.

This is getting pretty phoquing serious.

In Quebec...only 5 people are infected (so far) and 1 person has died. In Canada, I think with are at  118 with 8 or 9 deaths. Most cases in B.C., Alberta and Ontario. We were at 62 a couple of days ago.  That is how it started in Italy. They were at 60 and ballooned to the 1000s within a week or so. 

Montrealers arent panicking yet. 

Soccer has now delayed their season for the next 30 days and will decide if like the NBA they cancel the rest of the season or not.

Washington state, Social Distance is a requirement now at 6 ft away from people. No large group gatherings, etc., etc......................

Leadership incompetence at it's best in not putting educated leaders in charge of groups rather than idiots. 2020 is going to be a big change across all fronts from work, to social interaction, etc.

[ykX]

1 minute ago, dfelt said:

2020 is going to be a big change across all fronts from work, to social interaction, etc.

Nothing will change.  As soon as this will blow through, everyone will go back to the usual routine.

Edited March 12, 2020 by ykX

[G. David Felt]

2 minutes ago, ykX said:

Nothing will change.  As soon as this will blow through, everyone will go back to the usual routine.

I have to disagree as I look at companies and what they pay for rent, power, etc. Once you realize how to reduce costs, increase profits and get the job done by folks who need to be in an office versus working from home. I think it will change some areas big time.

I work in an office of 1200. Our 7 floors is $57K a month per floor or $399,000 a month. Plus our normal $75K a month Electric bill. We have a datacenter in our building and support is there 24/7. We could easily go to 1 or 2 floors and save a bundle on money. That kind of savings going to the bottom line will make many Tech companies rethink the need for office space. 

That then trickles down to local businesses, food services, etc. Once you change the way folks use things, it will affect especially in dense cities how and where people spend money. Folks that live in the suburbs that no longer go into the city will have clear affect on roads, services, etc.

I think this will change the world.good or bad, it will change cause of this.

[frogger]

13 minutes ago, dfelt said:

Washington state, Social Distance is a requirement now at 6 ft away from people. No large group gatherings, etc., etc......................

What about public transit?

 

[ykX]

@dfelt  All my friends who work in IT worked from home at least few times a week or more even before the virus.  Companies that could were moving toward remote workplace in any case.  Plenty of people though who can't do that.  Neither I, nor my wife work at jobs that can be done from home.  As a matter of fact at my wife's work she was told that if they have to go into quarantine all non essential personal (and she is not) will have to stay home without pay (can use vacation time if you have).

Edited March 12, 2020 by ykX

[G. David Felt]

13 minutes ago, frogger said:

What about public transit?

 

I have noticed the buses are almost empty but everyone is sitting with a few seats between them and others. Public Transit still running but everyone is using social distance even on the buses.

6 minutes ago, ykX said:

@dfelt  All my friends who work in IT worked from home at least few times a week or more even before the virus.  Companies that could were moving toward remote workplace in any case.  Plenty of people though who can't do that.  Neither I, nor my wife work at jobs that can be done from home.  As a matter of fact at my wife's work she was told that if they have to go into quarantine all non essential personal (and she is not) will have to stay home without pay (can use vacation time if you have).

WOW, yea that is scary, Amazon, Google, Microsoft and Dell are still paying their hourly. They are using them to do deep cleans at the buildings and campuses for when people return to the office. I know not all companies can give work from home or sick days, but I wish they could.

This bug will I still believe change habits for many people.

[G. David Felt]

WOW, Market is down 10% today.  ? 

https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity

I find this chart interesting for the history:

https://www.macrotrends.net/1319/dow-jones-100-year-historical-chart

You can also change it to 5yrs, 10yrs, 20yrs, etc.

10 years ago we were at 14,000

5 years ago we were at 19,206

Today at 21,200 at Market Close.

Market was 21,155.26 Jan 2017. 4yrs of growth almost wiped out.

Love the various ways you can look at the data:

Look at by years, president, fed chair or recession.

[G. David Felt]

Show Diesel Brothers just got nailed with an $851,451 dollar fine due to removing or tampering with emissions controls on the Diesel auto's they modified. Plus must pay the doctors group that sued them their $1.2 million legal fees. The Doctors attorneys say this is a step in the right direction to get the Rolling Coal auto's off the road as Utah clamps down on people who polute.

Seems this could be another reason the Diesel Brothers show is moving to building EV Trucks.

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1127408_truck-modifiers-behind-diesel-brothers-hit-with-850-000-fine-for-pollution

Seems the Cummins Diesel motor recall is even bigger than the VW recall due to polution.

[G. David Felt]

@balthazar Here is your next truck I found for you. Only $10,350 is the asking price with an 8ft bed.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/292036065087669/

https://www.thedrive.com/news/32563/this-ford-e-series-dually-is-the-pickup-you-drew-in-elementary-school

[oldshurst442]

3 hours ago, ykX said:

Nothing will change.  As soon as this will blow through, everyone will go back to the usual routine.

Yesterday. Italy closed shop. Literally. Nobody allowed out. No businesses open. Only pharmacies and grocery stores are allowed to be open and only 10 people at a time in the stores shopping.

European soccer teams were strongly advised, along with North American sports teams to play in their arenas without spectators.   The European soccer teams followed that advice while in North America we pretty much ignored that advice. Only the California hockey teams were to oblige.

Still with yesterday. 

Many American cities canceled their St. Patrick's Day parades including New York and Boston. The two biggest in North America.

This morning, the NBA halted and  postponed their season.

This afternoon. The NHL followed suit. 

MLB has also postponed preseason and will delay the start of the season.

 

President Trump has closed its borders to European travel to and from.  (If Canada does not follow suit, I think President Trump will close its borders with Canada. Although Canada is still a low risk country. For now...

Id say...things have ALREADY changed...and DRASTICALLY I MIGHT ADD these last 24 hours or so...

Id say things are going to get much much worse...with people infected and borders closed and life halted in the next week...

For one...lets see where Canada stands with Covid infections  in the next 5 days as Coronavirus  has a tendency  to double its numbers every 2 days.  Canada was at 118 this morning. Now we are at 140. Quebec was at 8 this morning. Now we are at 13.  

Italy started off slow too.   Before we balloon, if it aint too late...we will close down our cities in North America...soon enough. 

NO! Not because Covid-19 is sooooooo deadly. But its a virus that spreads QUICKLY. And has the potential to be very deadly if got out of hand. And in some places on the planet, like Italy, it HAS gotten out of hand as there arent enough medical staff to care for the infected. And THAT is where the dangers lie...

Common guys...get your facts straight.  And NO...this will not just blow through....

 

[USA-1]

3 hours ago, dfelt said:

Soccer has now delayed their season for the next 30 days and will decide if like the NBA they cancel the rest of the season or not.

Washington state, Social Distance is a requirement now at 6 ft away from people. No large group gatherings, etc., etc......................

Leadership incompetence at it's best in not putting educated leaders in charge of groups rather than idiots. 2020 is going to be a big change across all fronts from work, to social interaction, etc.

Like you've stated recently, lets keep politics out of it and keep subjects to autos. Thanks! ????

[balthazar]

31 minutes ago, dfelt said:

Show Diesel Brothers just got nailed with an $851,451 dollar fine....

Guess that pretty much destroys their credibility for whatever EV promoting deal they had going.

11 minutes ago, dfelt said:

@balthazar Here is your next truck I found for you. Only $10,350 is the asking price with an 8ft bed.

Boy was THAT a waste of time & money!

[USA-1]

34 minutes ago, dfelt said:

Show Diesel Brothers just got nailed with an $851,451 dollar fine due to removing or tampering with emissions controls on the Diesel auto's they modified. Plus must pay the doctors group that sued them their $1.2 million legal fees. The Doctors attorneys say this is a step in the right direction to get the Rolling Coal auto's off the road as Utah clamps down on people who polute.

Seems this could be another reason the Diesel Brothers show is moving to building EV Trucks.

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1127408_truck-modifiers-behind-diesel-brothers-hit-with-850-000-fine-for-pollution

Seems the Cummins Diesel motor recall is even bigger than the VW recall due to polution.

Not the sharpest tools in the shed. They post videos of diesel trucks they've modified rolling coal and think it's not going to go viral? 

[oldshurst442]

Prime Minister Trudeau and his wife Sophie are in self isolation. 

His wife was tested for positive for Covid-19.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/cp-newsalert-trudeau-goes-into-self-isolation-over-covid-19

Tom Hanks with his wife same thing as Rita was tested positive for Covid-19 while in Australia. 

 

[balthazar]

There may well be a 'sidestep' if it's declared as only for off-road. Kinda like road-tax free fuel.

[USA-1]

10 minutes ago, oldshurst442 said:

Yesterday. Italy closed shop. Literally. Nobody allowed out. No businesses open. Only pharmacies and grocery stores are allowed to be open and only 10 people at a time in the stores shopping.

European soccer teams were strongly advised, along with North American sports teams to play in their arenas without spectators.   The European soccer teams followed that advice while in North America we pretty much ignored that advice. Only the California hockey teams were to oblige.

Still with yesterday. 

Many American cities canceled their St. Patrick's Day parades including New York and Boston. The two biggest in North America.

This morning, the NBA halted and  postponed their season.

This afternoon. The NHL followed suit. 

MLB has also postponed preseason and will delay the start of the season.

 

President Trump has closed its borders to European travel to and from.  (If Canada does not follow suit, I think President Trump will close its borders with Canada. Although Canada is still a low risk country. For now...

Id say...things have ALREADY changed...and DRASTICALLY I MIGHT ADD these last 24 hours or so...

Id say things are going to get much much worse...with people infected and borders closed and life halted in the next week...

For one...lets see where Canada stands with Covid infections  in the next 5 days as Coronavirus  has a tendency  to double its numbers every 2 days.  Canada was at 118 this morning. Now we are at 140. Quebec was at 8 this morning. Now we are at 13.  

Italy started off slow too.   Before we balloon, if it aint too late...we will close down our cities in North America...soon enough. 

NO! Not because Covid-19 is sooooooo deadly. But its a virus that spreads QUICKLY. And has the potential to be very deadly if got out of hand. And in some places on the planet, like Italy, it HAS gotten out of hand as there arent enough medical staff to care for the infected. And THAT is where the dangers lie...

Common guys...get your facts straight.  And NO...this will not just blow through....

 

Wash hands in hot soapy water for 20 secs or more several times a day, cover cough with inside of elbow and don't touch your eyes, nose or mouth before you wash up. Common sense and good daily hygiene goes a long ways, something I've always followed. Same way to greatly help in preventing the spread of the common cold or seasonal flu. Biggest one is Stay Home when sick. 

[oldshurst442]

3 minutes ago, USA-1 said:

Wash hands in hot soapy water for 20 secs or more several times a day, cover cough with inside of elbow and don't touch your eyes, nose or mouth before you wash up. Common sense and good daily hygiene goes a long ways, something I've always followed. Same way to greatly help in preventing the spread of the common cold or seasonal flu. Biggest one is Stay Home when sick. 

True.

And yes its common sense and just good hygiene. 

But with a virus...especially an airborne virus, you know...none of that makes a difference. 

Covid-19 is NOT like the Flu.

It has Flu like symptoms.  NOT the Flu...

But yeah...stay home when sick is very true.  Stay home with a pandemic like this is also true. 

Edited March 12, 2020 by oldshurst442

[balthazar]

^ So if you practice good hygiene AND stay at home if you feel sick, it still doesn't make any difference?

[USA-1]

2 hours ago, dfelt said:

WOW, Market is down 10% today.  ? 

https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity

I find this chart interesting for the history:

https://www.macrotrends.net/1319/dow-jones-100-year-historical-chart

You can also change it to 5yrs, 10yrs, 20yrs, etc.

10 years ago we were at 14,000

5 years ago we were at 19,206

Today at 21,200 at Market Close.

Market was 21,155.26 Jan 2017. 4yrs of growth almost wiped out.

Stock Market needs to briefly close down like they did after 911. Pandemic panic.

6 minutes ago, oldshurst442 said:

True.

And yes its common sense and just good hygiene. 

But with a virus...especially an airborne virus, you know...none of that makes a difference. 

Covid-19 is NOT like the Flu.

It has Flu like symptoms.  NOT the Flu...

But yeah...stay home when sick is very true.  Stay home with a pandemic like this is also true. 

Right, so personal space comes into play as well. 3 ft. is now 6 ft. fine with me! Lets just see how it turns out before we all panic. We might just get this thing under control before you know it. Either way we will get through it people, lets try to keep a positive attitude ???

Edited March 12, 2020 by USA-1

[G. David Felt]

Will be a good time to pick up depressed stocks of value.  

Ford stock closed at $5.35 

GM stock closed at $23.04 

Tesla stock closed at $560.55 

FCA stock closed at $7.82 

BMW stock closed at $45.27

Daimler stock closed at $28.30

Toyota stock closed at $112.20 

Honda stock closed at $21.45

Nissan stock closed at $201.40

Everyone is down.