Random Thoughts Thread

[trinacriabob]

Sending a Christmas eve chuckle your way:

Here's Dyan Cannon, who has again poured herself into her clothing, to attend a Lakers game, which she does often.

It looks like she can easily fit down many chimneys.  Maybe even into a Christmas gift stocking.

I find the different chapters of Dyan Cannon humorous.

[G. David Felt]

This is spot on accurate of the failure by Japanese and American Auto companies. Some will go away even in merger like Nissan/Honda/Mitsubishi Motors as they sat and allowed China to surpass most companies.
Korea is the only true competitor right now as Tesla has fallen behind with their old 400V EV tech.

https://www.businessinsider.com/godfather-of-evs-explains-why-china-is-winning-ev-race-2024-12

[oldshurst442]

1 hour ago, G. David Felt said:

This is spot on accurate of the failure by Japanese and American Auto companies. Some will go away even in merger like Nissan/Honda/Mitsubishi Motors as they sat and allowed China to surpass most companies.
Korea is the only true competitor right now as Tesla has fallen behind with their old 400V EV tech.

https://www.businessinsider.com/godfather-of-evs-explains-why-china-is-winning-ev-race-2024-12

This is what Andy Palmer said, the dude of what the article in the link is about.  

 

"Hybrids are a road to hell. They are a transition strategy, and the longer you stay on that transition, the less quickly you ramp up into the new world," Palmer said.

"If you just delay transitioning to EVs by diluting it with hybrids then you are more uncompetitive for longer, and you allow the Chinese to continue to develop their market and their leadership. I honestly think it's a fool's errand," he added.

 

And him being the dude that helped engineer the Nissan Leaf and was later the dude in charge of Nissan's EV department, I am 100% in agreement with him. 

And I would also like to add:

The Chinese government pushed and pushed hard for EVs.  Pushed hard not only on the global stage but MOSTLY got ALL Chinese people ON BOARD with EVs.  They had several reasons to do so.  China has lots and lots of minerals and important ingredients to make said batteries. An essential part of EV transition.  But most IMPORTANTLY, China WANTS to REPLACE the USA for being the defacto country  in political, social, economical influence in the world that the USA enjoyed since the end of WW2 in 1945.  And since they knew they lacked behind in ebery metric that would push them to that status, they had only one move to make. It was a Hail Mary pass, but kit was to dominate in the the tech world and it happened to be in the automobile realm. EVs.

And while China was seeking to dominate in this arena, and CAREFULLY nurtured it, the USA phoqued themselves over.  Idiot Americans were fooled to believe ALL the negative commentary on EVs. Uneducated morons liked the drill baby drill commentary. Smart but greedy fools failed to see what was coming next and failed even further to see the threat that is China and ITS technological breakthroughs.  ALL from morons that had biased reasons to be anti-EV. From the Joe Rogans and Alex Jones of the world that thrive from clicks for the podcast youtube and other shytty platforms to anti-EV biases from Big Oil. 

And lastly, stupid politicians that failed American citizens in different decades from keeping Americans poor and stupid by not giving them educations. By PURPOSELY DEFUNDING the American school system, by PURPOSELY lying to them on DIFFERENT subjects and while these American politicians were greedily looking to make America into a fascist, oligarch world, they failed to see and acknowledge the OTHER threats the world was giving to the US OTHER than the war threats.  The technological warfare.  

Exactly the OPPOSITE of what the Chinese regimes were on about EVs. 

And if Trump decides to cut EV subsidies, even of only to allow Tesla to sell, the Chinese are building European factories to build EVs there. Slowly.  They are FLOODING the market with Chinese EVs as we speak in Europe.  The next step is to flood North America with Chinese EVs. The starting point IS Mexico.  If one is educated, one could see the disaster that is to come for GM, Ford.  Stellantis is going to get the disaster first in Europe. 

Chinese EVs are going to flood Mexico.  INEXPENSIVE Chinese EVs.  Then WILL come the factories in Mexico. 

So much for the "NOBODY WANTS EVs" rhetoric that the uneducated, wrongfully informed Americans (and Canadians to some degree) keep on spewing...  

Its really IS a big deal.

I SEE that rhetoric play about the failure of VW and Stellantis and even GM when these fools squeal about how they are failing because they have put all their monies on EVs.  The thing is, they didnt put their monies FAST enough on EVs and also concetrated on producing ICEVs when they should have just NIXED them waaaay before.  Of course that is Monday morning quarterbacking from me as I say that, but I ALSO saw the writing on the wall about EVs being THE future.  Had Americans NOT been LIED to about this whole thing about scare tactics about EVs, GM and Ford would have ALL the working EVs RIGHT NOW not ONLY to shut down Tesla, but to even shut down Chinese EVs.

Elon Musk could have TAKEN China ALL to himself if he was 5% the visionary he thinks he is.   But he was too busy STILL selling us on colonizing Mars...  Whatever happened to that super loop thing anyway?  Yeah...a billion dollar boondoggle that had everybody fooled.  Chinese politicians, engineers and all around smart folk must be STILL laughing at all the gullible Americans and greedy fools that the US has churned out the last 15 years... 

 

But hey...

 

Now lets keep on shopping because its the Christmas season and we should all consume because its good for the economy while we wait for tariffs to hit us because Canada and Mexico reasons, because our eggs are expensive while we get fleeced by insurance companies but we dont want healthcare because communism and education education education but Ivy Leaguers  they too smart so they elitist but Democrats wanting to forgive student debt no good but keep on having insanely expensive school tuitions while other areas in the country and young folk not having ACCESS to an education while calling some countries of the world as shytehole countries while ALSO keep on having school shootings because teachers arent packing but also those shytehole country folk  are eating the dogs and they are eating the cats.  

[oldshurst442]

Im glad to get that off my chest

 

[oldshurst442]

I got a better idea for Trump:

Instead of Canada becoming the 51st state, Id prefer for the US to become Canada's 4rth Territory.  Not even province status. In order for the United Stated Territories of America to become a full blown province, Americans would have to prove their allegiance and loyalty to the Royalty of King Charles the Third since Canada is a Federal Parliamentary Constitutional Monarchy of the British Commonwealth realm. 

Trump's job and title would be a perfect revival for an old tradition.  King Charles the Third's court jester.

And we could throw him a bone...and have a playing card named after him since he likes those kinds of things

 

 

[G. David Felt]

This is an interesting read. Korea is the only country with EVs that are head-to-head with China and in some ways better. This nanotube technology will allow Korea to move way farther forward than the U.S. in automotive options.

Advances in carbon nanotube applications enhance battery dry process

[G. David Felt]

Very cool read and video on how Tires are made.

Where Are Michelin Tires Made And Who Owns The Brand?

[oldshurst442]

Reason # xxx  as to why I love hockey and the players

 

From the bruising hit that takes the opponent outside the rink and into the player's bench. To the player saying to his teammate to 'hit him' just before the hit happens. To that same player saying that he has got him by calling him chubby but helping him out of the bench area and back unto the ice to the player that got hit laughing it off and skating off to continue on playing as if it was just a minor inconvenience and finally to the athletic trainer just looking at the hit, the player that got hit and visually seeing on his face his thoughts: "yup dude, you just got plastered!" and casually puts the bench back to its place.  The sportsmanship from all sides is incredible. Love it!!! 

[trinacriabob]

It (thankfully) happens infrequently, but, "when Golden Corral calls, you listen!"

[G. David Felt]

13 hours ago, trinacriabob said:

It (thankfully) happens infrequently, but, "when Golden Corral calls, you listen!"

That like Denney's usually makes the porcelain god call too!  

[trinacriabob]

Good morning ... from "Lionel Joseph"

 

[trinacriabob]

On 12/27/2024 at 8:30 AM, G. David Felt said:

That like Denney's usually makes the porcelain god call too!  

Denny's items have a uniform taste.  What you get on your platter is it!

I have had some good meals at Golden Corral  - you can start out with putting together a salad and all sorts of vegetables on it or on the side of your plate, there are a lot of main dishes (at nighttime, you can also get small steaks grilled for you), and, then, taking it slow (in terms of time), I'll add a slice of cake and a few other desserts.  For less than $20, with taxes.  A drink is extra.

I do this about once every 3 months.

[A Horse With No Name]

On 12/20/2024 at 9:42 PM, G. David Felt said:

I so want to travel to Korea and just food binge on street food.

Korean TRADITIONAL Market Street Food Tour in Seoul | Watch

Korea is on my bucket list. 

15 hours ago, trinacriabob said:

Denny's items have a uniform taste.  What you get on your platter is it!

I have had some good meals at Golden Corral  - you can start out with putting together a salad and all sorts of vegetables on it or on the side of your plate, there are a lot of main dishes (at nighttime, you can also get small steaks grilled for you), and, then, taking it slow (in terms of time), I'll add a slice of cake and a few other desserts.  For less than $20, with taxes.  A drink is extra.

I do this about once every 3 months.

I eat almost exclusively at small independent restaurants. 

On 12/25/2024 at 3:52 PM, G. David Felt said:

This is spot on accurate of the failure by Japanese and American Auto companies. Some will go away even in merger like Nissan/Honda/Mitsubishi Motors as they sat and allowed China to surpass most companies.
Korea is the only true competitor right now as Tesla has fallen behind with their old 400V EV tech.

https://www.businessinsider.com/godfather-of-evs-explains-why-china-is-winning-ev-race-2024-12

I am in a highly cynical mood. I wouldn't buy a Kia/Hyundai ICE vehicle,  maybe EV. Honda is a no go for me as a result of the merger. European cars are a no go for me for reliability reasons, American cars are a no go for political reasons. I have owned my last domestic. 

So Kia/Hyundai EV, Toyota/Subaru, maybe Mazda but I am not a fan of current Mazda styling and such. 

Which makes things very simple. 

If something happened to the Ranger I would replace it with a Tacoma, built in Mexico by a Japanese company. 

[A Horse With No Name]

Cool looking graffiti on a locomotive. 

 

On 12/25/2024 at 6:45 PM, oldshurst442 said:

This is what Andy Palmer said, the dude of what the article in the link is about.  

 

"Hybrids are a road to hell. They are a transition strategy, and the longer you stay on that transition, the less quickly you ramp up into the new world," Palmer said.

"If you just delay transitioning to EVs by diluting it with hybrids then you are more uncompetitive for longer, and you allow the Chinese to continue to develop their market and their leadership. I honestly think it's a fool's errand," he added.

 

And him being the dude that helped engineer the Nissan Leaf and was later the dude in charge of Nissan's EV department, I am 100% in agreement with him. 

And I would also like to add:

The Chinese government pushed and pushed hard for EVs.  Pushed hard not only on the global stage but MOSTLY got ALL Chinese people ON BOARD with EVs.  They had several reasons to do so.  China has lots and lots of minerals and important ingredients to make said batteries. An essential part of EV transition.  But most IMPORTANTLY, China WANTS to REPLACE the USA for being the defacto country  in political, social, economical influence in the world that the USA enjoyed since the end of WW2 in 1945.  And since they knew they lacked behind in ebery metric that would push them to that status, they had only one move to make. It was a Hail Mary pass, but kit was to dominate in the the tech world and it happened to be in the automobile realm. EVs.

And while China was seeking to dominate in this arena, and CAREFULLY nurtured it, the USA phoqued themselves over.  Idiot Americans were fooled to believe ALL the negative commentary on EVs. Uneducated morons liked the drill baby drill commentary. Smart but greedy fools failed to see what was coming next and failed even further to see the threat that is China and ITS technological breakthroughs.  ALL from morons that had biased reasons to be anti-EV. From the Joe Rogans and Alex Jones of the world that thrive from clicks for the podcast youtube and other shytty platforms to anti-EV biases from Big Oil. 

And lastly, stupid politicians that failed American citizens in different decades from keeping Americans poor and stupid by not giving them educations. By PURPOSELY DEFUNDING the American school system, by PURPOSELY lying to them on DIFFERENT subjects and while these American politicians were greedily looking to make America into a fascist, oligarch world, they failed to see and acknowledge the OTHER threats the world was giving to the US OTHER than the war threats.  The technological warfare.  

Exactly the OPPOSITE of what the Chinese regimes were on about EVs. 

And if Trump decides to cut EV subsidies, even of only to allow Tesla to sell, the Chinese are building European factories to build EVs there. Slowly.  They are FLOODING the market with Chinese EVs as we speak in Europe.  The next step is to flood North America with Chinese EVs. The starting point IS Mexico.  If one is educated, one could see the disaster that is to come for GM, Ford.  Stellantis is going to get the disaster first in Europe. 

Chinese EVs are going to flood Mexico.  INEXPENSIVE Chinese EVs.  Then WILL come the factories in Mexico. 

So much for the "NOBODY WANTS EVs" rhetoric that the uneducated, wrongfully informed Americans (and Canadians to some degree) keep on spewing...  

Its really IS a big deal.

I SEE that rhetoric play about the failure of VW and Stellantis and even GM when these fools squeal about how they are failing because they have put all their monies on EVs.  The thing is, they didnt put their monies FAST enough on EVs and also concetrated on producing ICEVs when they should have just NIXED them waaaay before.  Of course that is Monday morning quarterbacking from me as I say that, but I ALSO saw the writing on the wall about EVs being THE future.  Had Americans NOT been LIED to about this whole thing about scare tactics about EVs, GM and Ford would have ALL the working EVs RIGHT NOW not ONLY to shut down Tesla, but to even shut down Chinese EVs.

Elon Musk could have TAKEN China ALL to himself if he was 5% the visionary he thinks he is.   But he was too busy STILL selling us on colonizing Mars...  Whatever happened to that super loop thing anyway?  Yeah...a billion dollar boondoggle that had everybody fooled.  Chinese politicians, engineers and all around smart folk must be STILL laughing at all the gullible Americans and greedy fools that the US has churned out the last 15 years... 

 

But hey...

 

Now lets keep on shopping because its the Christmas season and we should all consume because its good for the economy while we wait for tariffs to hit us because Canada and Mexico reasons, because our eggs are expensive while we get fleeced by insurance companies but we dont want healthcare because communism and education education education but Ivy Leaguers  they too smart so they elitist but Democrats wanting to forgive student debt no good but keep on having insanely expensive school tuitions while other areas in the country and young folk not having ACCESS to an education while calling some countries of the world as shytehole countries while ALSO keep on having school shootings because teachers arent packing but also those shytehole country folk  are eating the dogs and they are eating the cats.  

I so want to renounce my US citizenship. Saving to be able to do so in retirement. 

On 12/25/2024 at 8:18 PM, oldshurst442 said:

I got a better idea for Trump:

Instead of Canada becoming the 51st state, Id prefer for the US to become Canada's 4rth Territory.  Not even province status. In order for the United Stated Territories of America to become a full blown province, Americans would have to prove their allegiance and loyalty to the Royalty of King Charles the Third since Canada is a Federal Parliamentary Constitutional Monarchy of the British Commonwealth realm. 

Trump's job and title would be a perfect revival for an old tradition.  King Charles the Third's court jester.

And we could throw him a bone...and have a playing card named after him since he likes those kinds of things

 

 

Canada is too geographically close to the USA for comfort. 

Neither Canada or the US is some place I want to end up permanently. 

[trinacriabob]

5 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

I eat almost exclusively at small independent restaurants. 

Well, it's a good idea because it's very A to B in terms of from their kitchen to your table.  Less overhead for marketing and fluff.  Not only that, it helps smaller businesses succeed.

[A Horse With No Name]

2 minutes ago, trinacriabob said:

Well, it's a good idea because it's very A to B in terms of from their kitchen to your table.  Less overhead for marketing and fluff.  Not only that, it helps smaller businesses succeed.

With the certain exeption of an Italian restaurant that has needed to die in Columbus for a few decades now. You have travelled the world, and I would bet the title to my truck (almost) that the meal you had there was the worst Italian food ever. 

Getting wallpaper paste and red paint from Lowes and mixing them together would make better lasagna that what we were served. 

Bah humbug to all. And to all...

A Horse. A horse would be an improvement at this point. 

 

And finally....the user name I use checks out!

[A Horse With No Name]

At least the color is nice, even if the truck is crap. 

[A Horse With No Name]

More Chevy truck drama...

[A Horse With No Name]

In my cynicism I for some reason am enjoying watching chargers get destroyed....just the newer ones...

I did hit a cow once with a car, neither the cow or the car survived. 

[trinacriabob]

Happy Sunday:

 

This is one of the funniest scenes in "Beverly Hills Cop."  My college friends knew all these lines as well.  This is 1 minute of Eddie's genius - he talked them into this improvisation .... "I think that would be best."

Did you hear me?

"I think that would be best."

- - - - -

Hey, he even got a street named after him in the California desert.  Nah, it was already there.  But, after the epic movie, I do laugh when I'm there and I see the sign.  Ramon, or Ray, is a popular name among Puerto Ricans ... lots of Rays.  But it took Eddie to make it funny.

[A Horse With No Name]

Bah humbug...although i find the new generation of Hummer gorgeous. 

Just now, trinacriabob said:

Happy Sunday:

 

This is one of the funniest scenes in "Beverly Hills Cop."  This is 1 minute of Eddie's genius - he talked them into this improvisation .... "I think that might be best."

Did you hear me?

"I think that might be best."

- - - - -

Hey, he even got a street named after him in the California desert.  Nah, it was already there.  But, after the epic movie, I do laugh when I'm there and I see the sign.  Ramon, or Ray, is a popular name among Puerto Ricans ... lots of Rays.  But it took Eddie to make it funny.

That scene is funny. 

[A Horse With No Name]

For Olds and TC, a thought on food service. 

People seem to thrive on eating lead paint chips and then expecting the world to respond to them intelligently

Funny video and short. 

 

[A Horse With No Name]

“Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.” -Ferris Bueller

[G. David Felt]

2 hours ago, trinacriabob said:

Well, it's a good idea because it's very A to B in terms of from their kitchen to your table.  Less overhead for marketing and fluff.  Not only that, it helps smaller businesses succeed.

Small Business is the backbone of America and it is covered by all ethnic groups, a Strong America starts with a Strong Multi-Cultural Society that works together for better community.

[G. David Felt]

This nails it on the head as to why Korean EVs are better than just about everyone else including the Chinese.

Hyundai / Kia / Genesis over Tesla every day.

 

https://cleantechnica.com/2024/12/28/why-isnt-hyundai-motor-group-circling-the-drain/

[G. David Felt]

I will never support Tesla as long as Musk is CEO and Chairman of the company, supporting Neo-Nazi political party in Germany is just Wrong.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2024/12/28/elon-musk-supports-germanys-far-right-afd-party-in-opinion-piece/

This is spot on I feel, only 9 months into EV ownership and cannot see me ever going back to ICE autos. Moving forward, EV only for me.

https://cleantechnica.com/2024/12/28/the-media-has-it-wrong-92-of-electric-vehicle-owners-worldwide-would-definitely-buy-another-ev/

[G. David Felt]

Just got back from Costco, Ultimate sweet-n-Spicy yet crunchy Korean snack.

[trinacriabob]

This would be more of a random thought than a spotting.

This Texan had a Christmas wreath in front of his truck, but did its engine bay have a motor in it?  I was more interested in getting this photo than asking him to find out.

[G. David Felt]

For those that like sedans, seems Genesis it planning to offer more options including this sweet looking Black Edition in 2025.

 

Seems the Black edition is the top trim level on all the Genesis auto's, very cool stuff.

Genesis G80 Black to be Launched in the First Half of 2025 - Korean Car Blog

[G. David Felt]

WOW, they have nailed it with their Black edition available on various models.

GENESIS UNVEILS GV80 BLACK AND GV80 COUPE BLACK

QUOTE:

Genesis Black models are defined by their captivating dark-black color theme that extends throughout the interior and exterior, flawlessly embodying the essence of Genesis’ design philosophy “Athletic Elegance” in its purest form. 

All visible exterior features in the GV80 Black and the GV80 Coupe Black are finished in black, including the radiator grille, bumper garnish, front emblem, daylight opening (DLO) molding, roof racks and rear bumper molding. Even lesser visible details like the headlamp inner side bezels are black, completing the sleek look. 

Someone paid attention to detail on these, the pictures are awesome.

[trinacriabob]

On 12/29/2024 at 8:18 AM, A Horse With No Name said:

Canada is too geographically close to the USA for comfort. 

Neither Canada or the US is some place I want to end up permanently. 

When I lived in the Seattle area, I'd go to Vancouver BC about once a month ... just because ... no reason other than its being so close and getting to be in another country.

Back then, I'd think, "What would I have to do to live here?"  They're realistically more tightly wound than PNWers.  Eastern Canadians who make the move to their west coast often returrn to where they came from - Ontario, Quebec, etc., because they're not (as) tightly wound.

Then, the light bulb went on:  "Vancouver is their Miami." Hmmm. Pass.

There is something to be said for abundant sunshine.  And how it can impact your outlook and health.

[A Horse With No Name]

21 hours ago, G. David Felt said:

This nails it on the head as to why Korean EVs are better than just about everyone else including the Chinese.

Hyundai / Kia / Genesis over Tesla every day.

 

https://cleantechnica.com/2024/12/28/why-isnt-hyundai-motor-group-circling-the-drain/

Absolutely. 

[A Horse With No Name]

This is an amazing video!

[G. David Felt]

31 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

This is an amazing video!

Loved this generation of Impala SS. It was Magical!!!

4 hours ago, trinacriabob said:

When I lived in the Seattle area, I'd go to Vancouver BC about once a month ... just because ... no reason other than its being so close and getting to be in another country.

Back then, I'd think, "What would I have to do to live here?"  They're realistically more tightly wound than PNWers.  Eastern Canadians who make the move to their west coast often returrn to where they came from - Ontario, Quebec, etc., because they're not (as) tightly wound.

Then, the light bulb went on:  "Vancouver is their Miami." Hmmm. Pass.

There is something to be said for abundant sunshine.  And how it can impact your outlook and health.

I am totally confused by your statement, Tightly Wound?????? Having been in both sides of Canada and yearly go to Fairmount Hot springs for the mineral hot springs that rejuvenate me, I find the East Coast of Canada Tightly wound and at times offensive in how they treat people and do things, so much in common with the East Cost of the U.S. and especially the south.

As a true PNW person living here, I find going up to Vancouver B.C. to be very relaxed and liberal with a great foodie scene. 

I can only think it is where we each are born and raised in our perception of the locals as I find the opposite of what you stated.

Or am I miss understanding your statement and you are saying the east coast Canadians who move to BC tend to move back because it is too liberal and relaxed?????

[trinacriabob]

46 minutes ago, G. David Felt said:

Loved this generation of Impala SS. It was Magical!!!

I am totally confused by your statement, Tightly Wound?????? Having been in both sides of Canada and yearly go to Fairmount Hot springs for the mineral hot springs that rejuvenate me, I find the East Coast of Canada Tightly wound and at times offensive in how they treat people and do things, so much in common with the East Cost of the U.S. and especially the south.

As a true PNW person living here, I find going up to Vancouver B.C. to be very relaxed and liberal with a great foodie scene. 

I can only think it is where we each are born and raised in our perception of the locals as I find the opposite of what you stated.

Or am I miss understanding your statement and you are saying the east coast Canadians who move to BC tend to move back because it is too liberal and relaxed?????

I will explain.  Let me put some meat on its bones and do this a little later.  I had a feeling you might say something.  My comment was not meant to be negative, because they are not negative places.  It's meant to be relative.

[oldshurst442]

On 12/29/2024 at 9:18 AM, A Horse With No Name said:

Canada is too geographically close to the USA for comfort. 

Neither Canada or the US is some place I want to end up permanently. 

I understand.

And in some parts of Canada, the shytty extreme right ideologies have also krept in making Canada unrecognizable in those areas...   And ironically, those folk believe to be purely Canadian in thought and soul. But in reality, I have a suspicion its those British loyalist phoques from the US when the US became its own country that fled to live up north up here in Canada and they retained their shytty uptight British ways...

And speaking of uptight...

You are not wrong about British Columbia.  Victoria and Vancouver would be very loosey goosey and liberal, but some other parts of British Columbia would be stiff upper lipped.   But I am curious to know what you mean by that.

 

2 hours ago, G. David Felt said:

I find the East Coast of Canada Tightly wound and at times offensive in how they treat people and do things

Where in the East Coast of Canada are you referring to because the stereotype of friendly Canadians is BECAUSE of the East Coast of Canada.  The most friendliest of people ANYWHERE in the world...  I would find your statement a little bit more bizarre that @trinacriabob's statement regarding British Columbia.

If you are referring to Quebecois, well, I could see it because the French culture could be offensive to some, but...the Quebec people are SUPER friendly and probably the MOST liberal of ALL of North America.  OK...in the rural parts of Quebec, they could be rude because they would probably view somebody from the outside as an...outsider and they are known not to accept too easily.   But an outsider to them would also mean other French Quebecois from another part of Quebec, let alone an Anglo that doesnt speak French. 

British Columbia is kinda like our California mixed in with Colorado. Per my observations.  I dont see Florida but Id like to see why you would think that @trinacriabob.   Im curious. Id like to see your point of view. 

Now...Alberta would be hands down our Texas.  Same kind of friendliness but in a Canadiana kinda way of course.  But just as red-necky regarding many things.  And that British loyalty thing, yeah, Id like to believe its still strong in that province.   Although British Columbian Anglos would also have an affinitiy for that British Royals thing too.  

Id like to know if you see it the same way I do regarding Alberta and British Columbia.