Random Thoughts Thread

[ccap41]

3 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

I would happily buy a model 3 if Musk were something of a respectable decent human being. Don't want to get into a flame war or politics, but I despise the guy. Last thing I want to say here, as given my high level of testosterone, moderate level of intellect, and complete lack of self control....this would get me into a flame war that would rival all previous mindless C and G flame wars...and get me banned. 

So let's end with a positive. At 77,000 plus miles Ranger is doing fantastic. ccap41, you were indeed correct on THAT much, anyways. 

Hahaha well Musk as a person is a completely different issue and I can understand not liking the man. I was speaking strictly of the product(s). 

[A Horse With No Name]

Racing has gotten much safer. None of these guys would have been killed under current racing safety policies/rules.

 

 

2 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

Hahaha well Musk as a person is a completely different issue and I can understand not liking the man. I was speaking strictly of the product(s). 

No real issue with the products, but car for car would buy a Mach E before a Tesla 3. You are a bad influence on me!

[Robert Hall]

First snow of the season last night... lots of leaves on the ground.

[A Horse With No Name]

The inner 14 year old in me blowing s#!t up and destroying it...for science...

 

 

[oldshurst442]

To be fair about the 5 thousand bump in price, Chevrolet added a larger battery to the Equinox EV  that NOW, the base Equinox EV has a 19 mile range bump on the previous 30 thousand version.  PROBABLY to leave  distance in the Bolt in price and in range. 

UNLIKE Tesla...

I am not surprised about this news.  I was wondering where the Bolt 2.0 was going to fit it with the 30 000 price threshold.  

I dont particularly like it the fact the this happened. But Im not up in arms about it either and Im certainly not comparing this shytty move with Tesla's shytty move as GM's move aint really that shytty as GM will PROBABLY will offer a 30 000 dollar EV in the Bolt 2.0 while ALSO offering a 35 thousand dollar Equinox with a BUMP in electric range as a peace offering for the yellers and a REAL reason to bump up the price.   Distance the Equinox from the Bolt... 

Tesla is still promising a 30 000 dollar or lower vehicle.  Still hasnt delivered it.  Not quite the same shyttiness.  

The Model 3's standard range is 272 miles.  The long range is  333 miles.  (car and driver numbers)

The Model Y's standard range is 303 while the longe range is 330.    (car and driver numbers)

The Equinox EV range is claimed to be  standard 319 miles (up from 300)   (car and driver numbers).    I cant find range numbers for the more expensive versions.  

 

Chevrolet's range numbers, if accurate, are just about on the upper echelon of all others in its class (Mach E, KIA EV6, VW ID4...)  and STILL comes out cheaper than EVERYONE ELSE...   And...there is STILL a model that MIGHT come in CHEAPER... 

So yeah, we could all pretend to be peeved off at this and say this or that about it, compare it to Tesla's bait and switch but STILL waiting to see if Tesla will add a 30 000 dollar to their line-up.

    (rolls eyes with the the drama)

 

You sure none of youse are Greek?  Because the drama youse uprise ssure looks Greek to me. 

[oldshurst442]

[surreal1272]

Only the RS/AWD trims gained in range (19). The allegedly cheaper FWD LT stays put at 250 (until GM officially says otherwise) so its only real gain is, in fact, the price.

[G. David Felt]

3 hours ago, surreal1272 said:

Yet it could have been $22K after the rebate. Which one sounds more enticing to the customer before pulling the rug out from underneath them? $27K or $22K, especially after almost two years of “it’s going to start under $30K” crowing by GMs fans like yourself (there are repeated posts by you making this claim over that time)? See if your word game applies here. Don’t “agree to disagree”. Actually make a valid point supporting GMs misleading claim of pricing on a vehicle that will not even be the first one out the gate? Explain how it makes any difference (as far as the wording) when the first models coming up for this “around $30K” are both far north of that price by “around” $18K? 

WOW, GM never said under $30K, it was around $30K.

Chevrolet Previews Equinox EV January 5th 2022 press release that clearly states around $30,000 and a clear message at the bottom MSRP is subject to change.

You can get upset all you want and that is fine about a product that was nowhere near release yet nor any actual firm pricing. To me it is a moot point that is no big deal as they never were sold or had a committed price yet. Go ahead and beat up GM over an around statement and a clear subject to change statement, will not affect the end result.

[G. David Felt]

11 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

Only the RS/AWD trims gained in range (19). The allegedly cheaper FWD LT stays put at 250 (until GM officially says otherwise) so its only real gain is, in fact, the price.

I do not see the FWD 250 mile range Equinox ever actually being produced as it is a smaller battery pack and as @oldshurst442 pointed out they increased the size of the battery pack to standardize on one size.

Chevrolet Equinox EV - 2024

This would mean that the Equinox LT1 FWD 300 mile range EV would be the base imho.

Interesting as their websites have conflicting info depending on which one you are on about this EV.

[oldshurst442]

30 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

Only the RS/AWD trims gained in range (19). The allegedly cheaper FWD LT stays put at 250 (until GM officially says otherwise) so its only real gain is, in fact, the price.

ALL sites that Ive read...and Ive read plenty...all hypothesize that the 35 thousand base model has a range of 319 miles.   Suggesting a bump of 69 miles over the previous version. 

BECAUSE

 

The way THIS latest advert is laid out...it states:  319 mile range starting around  $34 995.

But let us speculate shyte just to have a fake "gotcha" moment on some shytty stance of whatever you wanna fight over.  Not realizing the marketing dilemna of having a smaller Bolt EV that was nixed then revived that used to be in the 30 000 dollar range that the Equinox EV was to reside in but will return and what happens in the line-up when it returns so the Equinox EV gets a 15% price jump but ALSO gets a a similar percentage, if not more, bump in battery and range to offset price jump.  Forgetting that another EV is ALSO supposed to be introduced BELOW the Equinox that was initially nixed but revived.  NOT quite a Tesla bait and switch... 

Ill repeat...

You sure you are not Greek?

Because you got the drama (queen) part of being Greek down pat.  

 

Edited November 1, 2023 by oldshurst442

[oldshurst442]

39 minutes ago, David said:

I do not see the FWD 250 mile range Equinox ever actually being produced as it is a smaller battery pack and as @oldshurst442 pointed out they increased the size of the battery pack to standardize on one size.

Chevrolet Equinox EV - 2024

This would mean that the Equinox LT1 FWD 300 mile range EV would be the base imho.

Interesting as their websites have conflicting info depending on which one you are on about this EV.

 

 

Grouchy grouch (no name dropping, right?) got one thing right... UNTIL GM states CLEARLY otherwise, ALL else is just speculation.   

The advert I posted above SUGGESTS that the base is to start at 35K, but BECAUSE no trim is mentioned, one could assume that the base model will have a range of 319 miles.  But its ambiguous.  Shytty marketing execs have a way to change things up.   

But at worst, 15% jump in price ALSO means a 15% jump in range AT a MINIMUM  over what was first told to us.  

But at best...250 mile range now is 319 miles.  

 TESLA has promised at 30 000 dollar EV but has YET to offer ANYTHING remotely to that.  Tesla discounts the Model 3 and Y but STILL the MSRPs of those dont touch the 30 000 dollar threshold even if it were something stupid like $39 995.   They offer something like that, for about 24 hours and sporadically in that 24 hours and domne that maybe twice in the Model 3's  6 year existence.   And supposedly, Tesla makes mucho profit on the Model 3 so one would think that Tesla could afford a small hit on offering a 35 thousand Model 3 or Y to upset the EV apple cart even further. But nope. 

GM promised us that too.  BUT...They ALWAYS had the Bolt.  The BOLT is coming back.  AND...its not as IF the Equinox  at AROUND 30K is NIXED.  Just got a slight bump in price WITH something EXTRA  and the MSRP is still in the 30 thousands.  With the PROMISE of a SECOND 30 thousand EV in GM's line-up. 

PERSPECTIVE.  But somehow Im thinking grouchy grouch's (no name dropping allowed) viewpoint is less about GM's decision and moreso about your stance on things.    But your stance is justified as compared to what you think about Tesla's business practices-es.  

Edited November 1, 2023 by oldshurst442

[ccap41]

47 minutes ago, oldshurst442 said:

starting around  $34 995.

Perfect for another 5k increase! 

[oldshurst442]

Just now, ccap41 said:

Perfect for another 5k increase! 

If that ALSO comes with a battery bump and range,  like that last 5K increase, what is the problem?

ESPECIALLY when a Bolt and Bolt EUV are on the way? 

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/28/business/tesla-model-3.html

 

By Neal E. Boudette

• Feb. 28, 2019

Tesla is finally ready to offer a version of its Model 3 sedan with a starting price of $35,000.

The company on Thursday began accepting orders for the lower-priced version, with delivery in two to four weeks. It said the base Model 3 would have a range of 220 miles before needing a charge, and would come with a different interior than pricier versions of the car.

The new offering is a milestone for Tesla, whose chief executive, Elon Musk, has long promised a $35,000 model. But the company has struggled to reduce costs enough to be able to sell such a car.

“This has been something we’ve been working toward since the beginning of the company,” Mr. Musk said in a conference call with reporters. “It has been insanely difficult.”

The automaker also began selling a Model 3 version with a range of 240 miles and a starting price of $37,000. Previously, the cheapest Model 3 sold for about $43,000 before tax incentives.

[ccap41]

34 minutes ago, oldshurst442 said:

If that ALSO comes with a battery bump and range,  like that last 5K increase, what is the problem?

That can't continue to happen and benefit the consumer, right? Just because there's more and you're getting more, doesn't mean that fits the bill for this consumer base. 

This is an EQUINOX, not a Cadillac. 

[oldshurst442]

39 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

That can't continue to happen and benefit the consumer, right? Just because there's more and you're getting more, doesn't mean that fits the bill for this consumer base. 

This is an EQUINOX, not a Cadillac. 

Absoluuuuuutely. 
About price hikes and all. 

Inflations suck.

At least though, it wasnt a case of shrinkflation though, right?

also, at LEAST admit there IS a Bolt and Bolt EUV on the way before crucifying David on his stance and GM for this particular price hike, non?

[ccap41]

9 minutes ago, oldshurst442 said:

also, at LEAST admit there IS a Bolt and Bolt EUV on the way before crucifying David on his stance and GM for this particular price hike, non?

No, sir. That's on GM for pricing things and making the future pricing claims. David just blindly backs them, because GM. 

[G. David Felt]

34 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

No, sir. That's on GM for pricing things and making the future pricing claims. David just blindly backs them, because GM. 

I do not blindly back GM. I am more than willing to call them out for their BS.

You and another are hung up on a generalized term of About and the $30,000 compared to the competition that stated starts at. Big differences in those two terms.

Any company is in their right to use general terms and put in statements as GM did at the Equinox announcement in January 2022 CES show that it would start around $30,000 MSRP is subject to change.

GM clearly knew they were playing the marketing card to get attention and till just now did not state actual starting prices. They also did not realize how popular the Chevrolet BOLT would become and demand for it. As such, adjusting for room in the growing EV family is understandable.

At least GM did not pull a Tesla in price, offer and then give weak ass excuses for killing it after a couple months or like Rivian, try to increase prices after taking deposits with set pricing that changed to reflect inflation.

Those upset about this, appear to be fixated on $30,000 price point and not the actual product.

Yes, ICE Equionox are priced cheaper, but even the LT1 Equionox EV has more content than the base ICE version. 

Inflation has made all things more expensive and consumers have demanded more content which makes things also more expensive. As such, things will be more costly and we will not be living in the 90's when gas averaged $1.34 per gallon and the average price of a new auto was $16,950.

Average Cost of Car & Gas Prices (idrivesafely.com)

[oldshurst442]

1 hour ago, ccap41 said:

No, sir. That's on GM for pricing things and making the future pricing claims.

 

 

 

Thanx for the laughs CCAP.  

 

 

[ccap41]

28 minutes ago, David said:

Any company is in their right to use general terms and put in statements as GM did at the Equinox announcement in January 2022 CES show that it would start around $30,000 MSRP is subject to change.

Yeah, and it's kind of bullsht. They knew 100% what they were doing and I hate that crap. 

 

29 minutes ago, David said:

Those upset about this, appear to be fixated on $30,000 price point and not the actual product.

Well, if their Ultium launch thus far is any indication, the product isn't worthy of a 30k tag either, let alone the 100k+ they've gotten for the Hummers. 

[surreal1272]

57 minutes ago, David said:

You and another are hung up on a generalized term of About and the $30,000 compared to the competition that stated starts at. Big differences in those two terms.

“Hung up”. Yeah. That’s what it is. Not because they keep sliding the price scale upward and then don’t even release the said cheaper model first so by the time it actually comes out, it may be even higher because of “unforeseen circumstances” like inflation and shortages over the last three years lol. Whether it’s Tesla, GM, Rivian, or Ford using “at” or “around”, it’s a BS tactic and that is what you clearly have not gotten here while making up excuses with word semantics and just being GM. 

[surreal1272]

4 hours ago, David said:

I do not see the FWD 250 mile range Equinox ever actually being produced

That’s why I go by the facts at hand and not by what someone “sees” and I made that distinction very clear here. 

53 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

Well, if their Ultium launch thus far is any indication, the product isn't worthy of a 30k tag either, let alone the 100k+ they've gotten for the Hummers. 

And given his past criticism of Tesla and their pricing games, you’d think he would see the issue here but yet here he is saying is he not “blindly defending GM” while saying the above. 
 

The product is irrelevant when the product won’t even be released first and instead we get two models that start at $13K higher than the new higher price for the yet to be actually released $35K model. Until the actual product hits, the known price is what we have to analyze here and that’s it. He can make up any excuse about my intent or anything else for that matter but it changes literally nothing that was said here and I stand by it 100%. 

[G. David Felt]

Seems BMW is talking back at Tesla about Batteries.

“Tesla Needs To Close The Gap With Us," Says BMW On New Cylindrical Battery Cells (insideevs.com)

[ccap41]

39 minutes ago, David said:

Seems BMW is talking back at Tesla about Batteries.

“Tesla Needs To Close The Gap With Us," Says BMW On New Cylindrical Battery Cells (insideevs.com)

That's cool but Tesla is already building their 4680 so BMW may have a great product but it's still on the shelf, at this point. 

[G. David Felt]

Interesting

https://electrek.co/2023/11/01/ev-sales-still-rising-at-22-3-in-ca-tesla-cedes-lead-back-to-toyota/

Very interesting to see:

Stellantis ousts Tesla in Q3 in Europe as Jeep, Ram EVs coming to US (freep.com)

[surreal1272]

On 11/1/2023 at 12:02 PM, David said:

WOW, GM never said under $30K, it was around $30K.

Somehow missed this the other day, just as you missed the part where I was referring to GM fans and not GM itself. I made that pretty clear in the post you quoted yet somehow missed the actual words that were said. My exact words (that you quoted and misread somehow)…

“especially after almost two years of “it’s going to start under $30K” crowing by GMs fans like yourself”

 

If you’re going to quote me, then quote the correct words and not words you thought you saw. 

[surreal1272]

I did see in their updated press released, where they changed the range to reflect all trims, including the base model. My error and I can admit that. However, that still does not change my point about the price bump and 69 more miles of range doesn’t really change that. They knew they were going with one battery from the jump and that should have been reflected in a proper price announcement from the start, not “oh it was around this price but now it’s $5K more and won’t come out until six to nine months after the more expensive models that we are really hoping to sell. Again, that is a Tesla tactic and I am not down with it. 

[ccap41]

45 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

I did see in their updated press released, where they changed the range to reflect all trims, including the base model. My error and I can admit that. However, that still does not change my point about the price bump and 69 more miles of range doesn’t really change that. They knew they were going with one battery from the jump and that should have been reflected in a proper price announcement from the start, not “oh it was around this price but now it’s $5K more and won’t come out until six to nine months after the more expensive models that we are really hoping to sell. Again, that is a Tesla tactic and I am not down with it. 

I agree.

The whole, "you're now getting a bigger battery and more range" thing isn't necessary. It's been proved that 250 miles of range would suffice for nearly everybody on a daily basis. Now, people who were smart and wanted the smaller battery, which would be the most efficient trim because it's the lightest with the smallest wheels, can't get the product. 

I get most people will get the bigger battery anyway but, the entry price of vehicles is just too high as it is. There are PLENTY of people who buy vehicles in that class who aren't getting fully loaded vehicles.

[ccap41]

On somewhat of a random thought, my local GM dealership has a new Blazer EV RS on their lot. 

I forgot about this yesterday. because I would have liked to walk around it. I'll have to see if it's still there over the weekend...or anytime that I may remember... 

https://www.steveschmittauto.com/new/Chevrolet/2024-Chevrolet-Blazer+EV-40d815390a0e0a9a7b473b129d68728c.htm

They also have a Hummer EV, with a 25k markup. 

[G. David Felt]

2 hours ago, surreal1272 said:

Somehow missed this the other day, just as you missed the part where I was referring to GM fans and not GM itself. I made that pretty clear in the post you quoted yet somehow missed the actual words that were said. My exact words (that you quoted and misread somehow)…

“especially after almost two years of “it’s going to start under $30K” crowing by GMs fans like yourself”

 

If you’re going to quote me, then quote the correct words and not words you thought you saw. 

Weird, I cannot seem to find any post where I stated it would start under $30k

[G. David Felt]

Cool, production to still start at the end of this year.

Chevy Equinox EV Production To Start This Year In Mexico (gmauthority.com)

[ccap41]

@Davidmay not have said "under" but he made a whole post, gobbling up GM's sauce, stating "starting @ $30,000".  So even David read "around" and thought "at". Hmmmmm

 

[surreal1272]

1 hour ago, David said:

Weird, I cannot seem to find any post where I stated it would start under $30k

Did I say you specifically? Nope. Sure didn’t. I said “GM fans” of which there are quite a few here. Again, misreading my words. That’s all I’m saying about it at this point. 
 

And it looks like @ccap41 already found it. Sure didn’t look like “around” and “at/@“ were distinguishable there but hey, I’m just looking right at the page lol. 

1 hour ago, David said:

Weird, I cannot seem to find any post where I stated it would start under $30k

Your exact words below:

”Chevrolet has given us the best look today of their all-electric Equinox which they stated will start at $30,000 tapping a market EVs to date have not touched yet, will they deliver?”

 

Now I’m done lol. 

Edited November 3, 2023 by surreal1272

[ccap41]

4 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

”Chevrolet has given us the best look today of their all-electric Equinox which they stated will start at $30,000 tapping a market EVs to date have not touched yet, will they deliver?”

I think that's safe to answer today. No, no they are not delivering a $30,000 Equinox EV. 

[surreal1272]

Just now, ccap41 said:

I think that's safe to answer today. No, no they are not delivering a $30,000 Equinox EV. 

But it’s “around” $30K lol. 

[trinacriabob]

Sometimes, foreign countries have it over North America in some things and, then, North America has it over foreign countries in others.  When it comes to license plates, we rule.  I got over the idea of having a personalized license plate when I was about 25.  No thanks.  So, what I'm referring to is the latitude and creativity the various states and Canadian provinces have in coming up with designs for their license plates.

A few are boring and they keep them, a few got to a good spot and they are hanging on to them, some keep getting better and better, and, with a select few, they landed on a great design and then moved on to a crappy one.

An example of the latter would be Nevada, which, in my mind, had one of my all-time favorite license plates, seen below:

Simple design, using two colors - dark blue and gray (approximating UNR's school colors), excellent Western themed font in the word Nevada, and a subtle but detailed desertscape with indigenous animal life and plant life and a mountain backdrop.

Nevada's current license plate is sophomoric garbage.

Do you have any state or provincial license plates you are a fan of?

[G. David Felt]

41 minutes ago, trinacriabob said:

Sometimes, foreign countries have it over North America in some things and, then, North America has it over foreign countries in others.  When it comes to license plates, we rule.  I got over the idea of having a personalized license plate when I was about 25.  No thanks.  So, what I'm referring to is the latitude and creativity the various states and Canadian provinces have in coming up with designs for their license plates.

A few are boring and they keep them, a few got to a good spot and they are hanging on to them, some keep getting better and better, and, with a select few, they landed on a great design and then moved on to a crappy one.

An example of the latter would be Nevada, which, in my mind, had one of my all-time favorite license plates, seen below:

Simple design, using two colors - dark blue and gray (approximating UNR's school colors), excellent Western themed font in the word Nevada, and a subtle but detailed desertscape with indigenous animal life and plant life and a mountain backdrop.

Nevada's current license plate is sophomoric garbage.

Do you have any state or provincial license plates you are a fan of?

Agree there are some states that represent their area of North America very well and others that totally blow at it.

I will say that the Northwest Territories is a very cool plate in the shape of a Bear.

[oldshurst442]

Bootleggin'  beer across Provincial lines is illegal in these parts here.    He probably should have had a friend drive a speedy blocker, eh?   

 

Chérie...chut! 

 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/opp-charge-driver-caught-with-326-cases-of-beer-from-quebec-1.7016702

 

Officers found 326 cases of beer in a van pulled over Wednesday on Highway 401 near Belleville, Ont. (Supplied by OPP)

 

Ontario Provincial Police (OPP) have charged the driver of a rental van with unlawfully possessing 326 cases of beer purchased in Quebec and brought into Ontario.

 

"Liquor purchased from Quebec and transported to another province must be for personal use only. [The] driver admitted it was not for his personal use," an OPP spokesperson clarified in an email.

 

Edited November 4, 2023 by oldshurst442

[trinacriabob]

16 hours ago, David said:

Agree there are some states that represent their area of North America very well and others that totally blow at it.

Some other good plates are New Mexico, Arizona (they once had a deep red background that was unique, but the current one is also nice), Washington (though I liked the quasi-cursive font I once had there for 4 years at the very end of their having 3 numbers and 3 letters), Florida (good thing that they got rid of the county names at the bottom of the plates), and Rhode Island.  

The putting of counties on there is mostly a Southern thing, with few exceptions.  Georgia, which has started to lean blue/progressive, still puts county names at the base of their plates.  That does not help travelers, even within their own state.  When they're parked at a hotel or a restaurant, it tells people they're out of towners.

16 hours ago, David said:

I will say that the Northwest Territories is a very cool plate in the shape of a Bear.

Agreed.  That is the most unique plate in North America.

Other interesting Canadian plates are Nova Scotia, Quebec, and British Columbia, where they spell it out as "Beautiful British Columbia."  My cousin from Europe got a kick out of that and took a photo of a BC plate.

[trinacriabob]

Good morning ...

This lowers my blood pressure.  Hope it does yours too.

[Robert Hall]

1 hour ago, trinacriabob said:

 

The putting of counties on there is mostly a Southern thing, with few exceptions.   

Ohio put the county name on the plates starting in the 80s IIRC...they switched to a county number sticker on the front and back at some point, but switched back to county name stickers in recent years.

[G. David Felt]

5 hours ago, Robert Hall said:

Ohio put the county name on the plates starting in the 80s IIRC...they switched to a county number sticker on the front and back at some point, but switched back to county name stickers in recent years.

Wonder why, is there a reason behind telling folks which county you are living in?

[Robert Hall]

23 minutes ago, David said:

Wonder why, is there a reason behind telling folks which county you are living in?

I'd assume its for law enforcement and taxes or something... need to know what county drivers are from as the registration cost varies depending on the county, some counties require emission tests, etc.. 

Edited November 4, 2023 by Robert Hall

[G. David Felt]

6 hours ago, Robert Hall said:

I'd assume its for law enforcement and taxes or something... need to know what county drivers are from as the registration cost varies depending on the county, some counties require emission tests, etc.. 

WOW, I figure that was state set emission tests, etc. even here in Washington state, emission testing is gone, but every county or city does have their own taxes, but that just comes on the registration renewal so I find it very weird that your license plate would state what county you live in. 

Responding to you made me wonder and I did a search and while there is plenty of responses on various social media platforms, I did find Wikipedia to make the most sense.

United States license plate designs and serial formats - Wikipedia

To me, it would seem to be out of date and just laziness of politicians to not update and modernize and they are stuck in the past for those states that have stuck with 2 digit codes and county names on the plates. I do see that a few states have stopped it to streamline and reduce cost of plate manufacturing. 

Interesting.

[trinacriabob]

15 hours ago, Robert Hall said:

I'd assume its for law enforcement and taxes or something... need to know what county drivers are from as the registration cost varies depending on the county, some counties require emission tests, etc.. 

They can see that by running the plate or talking to you to see your documents.  I don't feel that the general motoring public needs to know, even though it is sometimes interesting.

Florida used to have counties on the plates, and I'd always get a kick from seeing one that said Monroe, Escambia, among others.  Of course, the quintessential Florida plate should say "Palm Beach."

That little "circle" * in the middle always brings to mind a place I wouldn't want to be swimming.

* Lake Okeechobee

[trinacriabob]

Good morning ...

... a good morning indeed.

[Robert Hall]

18 minutes ago, trinacriabob said:

Good morning ...

... a good morning indeed.

Yeah.  Nice to have sort of daylight when getting up (7 am) but I know I won’t like it getting dark at 5…  always messes up my sleep a few days when the time changes. 

I don't really like dark when I get up or dark at the end of the workday, but it is what is..

The lack of time change was something I did like about living in Arizona. 

Edited November 5, 2023 by Robert Hall

[trinacriabob]

Some "good news," I guess.

The SS United States was America's flagship and is the fastest ocean liner ever built.  It clocked the North Atlantic run between the typical lighthouse checkpoints of New York and Southhampton (UK) in a hair less than 4 days, doing some 41 knots per hour (which is insanely fast for a ship).

It has been sitting at a pier on the Delaware River in South Philly for some 30 years.  It has been under the purview of a non-profit conservancy.  It's still there, but it supposedly looks kind of haggard.  It also looks like it might be getting evicted.  However, they have some interesting plans for it.

S.S. United States could leave Philly after more than 25 years for redevelopment project (msn.com)

Here's the site of the conservancy:

SS United States Conservancy (ssusc.org)

Here's a photo of the rendering for the project on the Hudson River in Midtown Manhattan:

 

[ccap41]

On 11/5/2023 at 6:09 AM, Robert Hall said:

I don't really like dark when I get up or dark at the end of the workday, but it is what is..

I freakin HATE the darkness in winter. If i didn't sit next to a window at work, I would only see daylight on Saturdays and Sundays. 

[Robert Hall]

I can see my driveway and sky from my office window.  Will be interesting to look out when we get snow…

[G. David Felt]

OUCH, this sucks for Toyota and all these RAV4's

Almost 2 million recalled.

Toyota Recalls Certain 2013-2018 Toyota RAV4 Models - Toyota USA Newsroom