2013 Scion FR-S

[Camino LS6]

Assuming that the turbo happens, this is an ok entry for an ok price.

A half decent entry-level RWD coupe.

But if GM can't stomp it in all categories, they will not have tried very hard.

[Turbojett]

I'm young, I'm single, i can deal with a stiff suspension; the roads in orange county aren't that bad that i can't handle it. The problem I was always worried about was whether or not i could squeeze my 6'3" frame into its drivers' seat with no problem. And then Top Gear tested a GT86, with Jeremy "6ft 5in" Clarkson behind the wheel and I rejoiced because apparently, he fits!

I'd prefer the BRZ though, but if I were to buy the Scion, I'd rebadge it into a proper Toyota: I want a Hachi, not a Scion.

[Turbojett]

I really do love these cars though; sure they're not fast, but they're quick enough. I'd even drive a Miata, but I'm not really a convertible person. Now if there was a coupe version of that, I'd be all over it.

[A Horse With No Name]

As it is, it will be a wait...local subie dealer says there is a sixteen week wait for a BRZ....

[hyperv6]

I think Top Gear [Clarkson] Summed up this car last night. The simple truth is this car was not made to kill the Corvette, Mustang or Camaro. This car was made to be fun to drive. Like a go cart the car is given ample power but with a chassis and tire combo that let you hang it out.

It is not a car that will challenge super cars, that is not it's goal. The goal is to make a affordable car that is economic to operate and has a truly fun to drive. Americans may not understand it but most people of the world find satisfaction in a well balanced car that is fun to drive.

While many Americans are still hung up on a must for 8 cylinders and 500 HP more are finding the fun in a cheaper car that is just fun to let hang out.

Toyota and Subaru have made a good car and just used smaller tires to help tune the car to be fun. I have run 500 Plus stock cars, Drag Raced cars with over 500 HP and auto crossed cars with anywhere from 190 HP to over 500 HP. To be honest this car is much like the 190 HP car on a auto cross track where you can let it go and have a blast but the power is not something that is always missed. It is a car that can put many into controlling a car with out over powering it and needing controls to keep it in control.

It is hard to explain if you have not been there but anyone who has auto crossed knows what I mean. Sliding through a box section with all 4 wheels drifting in through and out then doing a slide through the lights across the line is a thrill.

The best way to describe it as being in full control of a car that is out of control car. That is what I see this car as delivering. This is more of a true sports car and not a over powered muscle car or super car.