Damned crappy cell phone!

[Camino LS6]

@$^#@&^*^%#!

My stupid cell phone battery dies in the middle of a conversation with a guy interested in the Mothertruck!

The phone used to give me a few warnings before the battery died, now it beeps just about one second before going dead.

And,

It didn't save the number!

GRRRRRRR!

[SAmadei]

Try logging into the web page of your provider.

I normally can find the incoming/outgoing number info there.

[Camino LS6]

I guess I could try that.

But then again, if the guy really wants the truck, he'll call back.

[SAmadei]

I guess I could try that.

But then again, if the guy really wants the truck, he'll call back.

Quite true.

Cell Phone battery life is awful even barely one year into ownership. I can't wait to start hearing about it with EVs...

[balthazar]

Amazing thing about cell phones: everybody buzzes about the features, etc etc, yet just accepts (for the most part) dropped calls, bad connections, non-service areas... all prime annoyances vs. the very thing they replaced: landline phones. Here, in the primary purpose of phones - cells are notably WORSE.

[Camino LS6]

Amazing thing about cell phones: everybody buzzes about the features, etc etc, yet just accepts (for the most part) dropped calls, bad connections, non-service areas... all prime annoyances vs. the very thing they replaced: landline phones. Here, in the primary purpose of phones - cells are notably WORSE.

Sort of like computers...

Seems we have learned to accept failing devices as the norm.

[Drew Dowdell]

I dunno... seems to depend on the phone. My Verizon blackberry is rock solid on calls as is my current HTC on Sprint.

My old windows mobile phones on AT&T were just eh.

[SAmadei]

Sort of like computers...

Seems we have learned to accept failing devices as the norm.

We have. Its awful.

Just tonight... My BB has been running out of memory. So I tried to check to see if I should update the software. Plug phone into computer. USB starts going nuts. It takes three different USB cables before the computer and phone sync up. Then my Sprint card internet craps out. I get that fixed... and my Netgear USB wireless card needs to get pulled out and put back in. Finally, the phone checks... and now it needs to upgrade my loader. Windows crashes. Reboot... install BB Loader. Need to reboot. Back up... software checks... and I've already got the latest software on my BB. 45 minutes... *poof*

I dunno... seems to depend on the phone. My Verizon blackberry is rock solid on calls as is my current HTC on Sprint.

Some phone/networks are. But you can't buy the latest greatest... you have to do the research ahead of time. My BB on Verizon is pretty good. So is my Tmob G1. My Sprint card was good... but then I got talked into upgrading into a MiFi... its a piece of junk... I should've never changed it... if I would have walked out of the store to think about it overnight, I would've been learned about the MiFi and would have bought a new battery or upgraded to 4G and been fine.

[Intrepidation]

Amazing thing about cell phones: everybody buzzes about the features, etc etc, yet just accepts (for the most part) dropped calls, bad connections, non-service areas... all prime annoyances vs. the very thing they replaced: landline phones. Here, in the primary purpose of phones - cells are notably WORSE.

Why when I were a lad we used the telegraph. Much superior in every way to telephones because it was older.

When I use my cell I never get dropped calls. 99% of the time I get reception wherever I go.

Oh and good luck making a phone call from your land line when you're anywhere but home.

So what next to complain about, how car batteries are inferior to manual cranks because after 5-10 years they need to be replaced?

Sort of like computers...

Seems we have learned to accept failing devices as the norm.

Only if you own a piece of junk. Sort of like owning a book that was in a flood. Have fun with that.

Oh yeah, and not needing to worry about the paper receipt from a part you bought two years ago which failed because the purchase record is stored in the database: priceless.

[Camino LS6]

hahahahahahahahahahaha.....

[Intrepidation]

I don't know how old your phone is Camino, but if its like 13 years old its probably time for a new battery. Batteries lose their ability to hold a charge over time, every battery is like that.

[Camino LS6]

DF, yes, the new tech is amazing.

But.

I often fails in ways we would never accept in other consumer goods.

Just a side-effect of greed and the rapid pace of change.

We are very lucky most things are more reliable than tech devices.

If the tech explosion ever reaches a lasting pause, we might begin to see better reliability.

[Camino LS6]

I don't know how old your phone is Camino, but if its like 13 years old its probably time for a new battery. Batteries lose their ability to hold a charge over time, every battery is like that.

It is a recent battery, but has never held a charge as long as the original did,

My gripe is the fact that the phone no longer gives me a warning of any useful length.

It used to beep at intervals a few minutes ahead of battery failure, now it is near-immediate.

Edited October 15, 2010 by Camino LS6

[balthazar]

Dodgefan ~ >>"Why when I were a lad we used the telegraph. Much superior in every way to telephones because it was older."<<

Everything NEWer is BETTER because the BETTER companies selling me the NEWer stuff told me so, forever and ever!

I've been on Verizon for some years now- great network. I likewise maybe only drop 1% of calls, but my buddy has a hands-free linked thru his BB ( I think- I don't keep up on this sh!t): dropped calls, poor clarity at best, spotty transmission, voice echoes- one or a combination about 50% of the time. It may be that my fone is contributing in some way, but it doesn't do so on other frequent calls.

OF COURSE there are limitations otherwise with a land line; umm OK, wow, but on the point of call quality- cells are second best at best.

Am I advocating using a land line over a cell? No. I do 90% of my calls on a cell, but like I said, mine is pretty decent (tho still not of the same quality as a land line).

The point was -and you cannot deny it- you have zero dropped calls, excellent clarity (no echoes, no delay/overlap) and zero non-service area issues with landlines. </point>

Thanks for following the red bouncing ball.

Edited October 15, 2010 by balthazar

[FAPTurbo]

The reason 'call quality' has dropped is due to the sheer amount of tech being packed into phones. It's only natural that circuitry devoted to the speaker will have to be neutered in order to make way for a WiFi adapter. But you can still buy a simple, 'gizmo-free' phone with excellent sound quality, or get it for free with a contract. Sheesh, whaddya people want.

And PC's? Failing devices? Just mosey into any public school, and you can bet you'll find PC's with Windows 3.11 from the early nineties still in operation. My IBM from 1997 still is running with all the original parts including the hard-drive. All that's been done is an upgrade of RAM back in 1999, and Windows Updates. The reason devices like PC's often 'fail' is because people don't take care of them.

[Camino LS6]

Windows, now there's something reliable.

Sort of like having to shut your car down in traffic.

[Intrepidation]

Dodgefan ~ >>"Why when I were a lad we used the telegraph. Much superior in every way to telephones because it was older."<<

Everything NEWer is BETTER because the BETTER companies selling me the NEWer stuff told me so, forever and ever!

I've been on Verizon for some years now- great network. I likewise maybe only drop 1% of calls, but my buddy has a hands-free linked thru his BB ( I think- I don't keep up on this sh!t): dropped calls, poor clarity at best, spotty transmission, voice echoes- one or a combination about 50% of the time. It may be that my fone is contributing in some way, but it doesn't do so on other frequent calls.

OF COURSE there are limitations otherwise with a land line; umm OK, wow, but on the point of call quality- cells are second best at best.

Am I advocating using a land line over a cell? No. I do 90% of my calls on a cell, but like I said, mine is pretty decent (tho still not of the same quality as a land line).

The point was -and you cannot deny it- you have zero dropped calls, excellent clarity (no echoes, no delay/overlap) and zero non-service area issues with landlines. </point>

Thanks for following the red bouncing ball.

Not all cell phones or networks are created equal. If your friend gets dropped calls and poor call quality, switch networks, do som research, and buy a quality phone.

[Camino LS6]

Can you still buy a dead simple phone without all the features?

But with improved clarity/reception?

Seriously, I'd like to find such a phone.

[Drew Dowdell]

without most of the features... yes.

bare bones cell phone will come with txt messaging, phone book, and maybe a few basic ringtones.

[FAPTurbo]

Can you still buy a dead simple phone without all the features?

But with improved clarity/reception?

Seriously, I'd like to find such a phone.

Like this?

http://www.consumersearch.com/cell-phone-reviews/lg-accolade-vx5600

They're out there. It just requires a bit of research.

[balthazar]

I have an LG flip, pretty basic. Has a camera, my previous LG from '04 did not, along with having a 'partial' external antenna. THAT was a fuss-free phone.

Both have web access- but I don't ever use my phone for that.

This one is slightly fussier than the previous one, as far as I have to push more buttons to reply to a text, for EX., and the camera button is on the SIDE, so I am frequently taking shots of the inside of my pocket if even ONE THING is in there with the phone.

I liked the previous one slightly better, but this is now the most basic Verizon offers.

I could do without the phone and with no external buttons : no such thing.

Battery life is excellent tho- I charge the current one about every 5 or even 6 days with around 400 mins of talk & maybe 300 texts/month.

[Camino LS6]

Wouldn't want the camera anyway...

I'll keep it in mind.

But I'd have to dump Sprint (no great loss).

[Camino LS6]

I don't text - ever.

[Intrepidation]

There are plenty of basic entry level phones, but you'd have to research, and likely go to a store to physically check one out, to decide for yourself what is best for you.

[Camino LS6]

When I got this one, nothing more basic was available.

[Intrepidation]

Somewhere I have an old Audiovox phone, its so old that the most advance feature it had was that it could receive text messaging (not send).

I don't really text, but i do enjoy having a camera on my photo. That way I always have a camera on my person. Never know what you'll see, and my Canon SX10 IS won't fit in my pocket.

You may want to check out what Virgin Mobile has for cell phones. http://www.virginmobileusa.com/cell-phone-plans/paylo-plans.jsp

[Camino LS6]

I've had a cell phone since the days of brick phones and bag phones.

Over that time, reliability and call clarity have plummeted as features have exploded.

I just want my phone to be a phone - and a good one at that.

It is massively cheaper now though, that change is welcome.

[Camino LS6]

I guess I'm going to have to plan on getting a new one before this one dies.

Sifting through all the options is going to be a drag.

[Intrepidation]

Or just see if you can get a battery for it.

[Camino LS6]

Or just see if you can get a battery for it.

The battery is still ok, but the phone itself is getting tired.

And I have some gripes with it.

[daves87rs]

LoL....you guys are talking about cell phones....

I rule all with my flip phone! Ha Ha !

[Blake Noble]

I have a recommendation for a new phone for Camino ...

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The operators place calls for you? Holy shit.

[CanadianBacon94]

Man, My Rola-RAZR is the best phone ever, it floats...

[FUTURE_OF_GM]

The reason 'call quality' has dropped is due to the sheer amount of tech being packed into phones. It's only natural that circuitry devoted to the speaker will have to be neutered in order to make way for a WiFi adapter. But you can still buy a simple, 'gizmo-free' phone with excellent sound quality, or get it for free with a contract. Sheesh, whaddya people want.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that has noticed the drop in call quality.

As for cell phones... I have a very LOVE/HATE relationship with my iPhone... At first, I LOVED it. Then I got to a point where I felt that it was 'so damn close to perfect' that it annoyed me. Now, I'm perpetually PISSED at the thing and want to throw it against the wall.

I'm currently running the 3.1 software which, to those of you that don't know, makes the phone perform like a retarded 5 year old. My apps crash constantly, or just flat out don't work. It's slower than a turtle's bowel movement and it "gets confused" at the simplest things... 'Why not upgrade?' you ask. Well, I tried. Kept the damn thing hooked up to iTunes for 3 days and it would never finish "backing up" (step 1 of 3 of the sync)

As far as AT&T. I really HATED giving my Verizon account up because of their excellent coverage. Their customer service sucks harder than a rocked out hooker, but the coverage was awesome. I went with AT&T to get the iPhone. Now I can only hope that VZW gets the iPhone4 or I can peek at the Droids and contemplate a change. Not sure what I'll do yet.

In my iPhones defense, the guy at the AT&T store said that he had NEVER seen a data plan with as much usage as mine. That can't be healthy for my social skills and socialization. The fact that I and millions of other people are 'wired in' to this pathetic work-from-eyes-open-to-eyes-closed, stressed out craptacular life. But, oh well.

[Blake Noble]

As for cell phones... I have a very LOVE/HATE relationship with my iPhone... At first, I LOVED it. Then I got to a point where I felt that it was 'so damn close to perfect' that it annoyed me. Now, I'm perpetually PISSED at the thing and want to throw it against the wall.

I'm currently running the 3.1 software which, to those of you that don't know, makes the phone perform like a retarded 5 year old. My apps crash constantly, or just flat out don't work. It's slower than a turtle's bowel movement and it "gets confused" at the simplest things... 'Why not upgrade?' you ask. Well, I tried. Kept the damn thing hooked up to iTunes for 3 days and it would never finish "backing up" (step 1 of 3 of the sync)

As far as AT&T. I really HATED giving my Verizon account up because of their excellent coverage. Their customer service sucks harder than a rocked out hooker, but the coverage was awesome. I went with AT&T to get the iPhone. Now I can only hope that VZW gets the iPhone4 or I can peek at the Droids and contemplate a change. Not sure what I'll do yet.

In my iPhones defense, the guy at the AT&T store said that he had NEVER seen a data plan with as much usage as mine. That can't be healthy for my social skills and socialization. The fact that I and millions of other people are 'wired in' to this pathetic work-from-eyes-open-to-eyes-closed, stressed out craptacular life. But, oh well.

I have the 3GS and I'm running the latest version of iOS4 without any issues. I take it you have a 3G? Yeah, blame Apple's Speed of Sound Plan for Planned Obsolesce as to why it won't run anything like it should. I'm a little afraid about what's going happen to my iPhone later on down the road. Hopefully the iPhone 5 won't suck as hard as the 4 currently does.

I have to agree with you 100 percent regarding Verizon's coverage and customer service. I had Verizon until I bought my iPhone.

I cross-shopped the iPhone and Droid phones as well -- and my apologies to the card-carrying members of the Droid Club here -- I currently just don't see the advantage a Droid phone has over an iPhone. They're more or less the same phone. (My iPhone will load .gif images if you were going to say something regarding that.) The Droid software might be far more accessible to someone wanting to develop a third-party app, but I don't plan on developing apps so it doesn't offer me anything my iPhone doesn't. That's just my opinion, take it with a grain of salt.

[SAmadei]

I don't know how old your phone is Camino, but if its like 13 years old its probably time for a new battery. Batteries lose their ability to hold a charge over time, every battery is like that.

It is a recent battery, but has never held a charge as long as the original did,

My gripe is the fact that the phone no longer gives me a warning of any useful length.

The problem, DF is that a lot of batteries don't last well after 1 year. They work... but you can't push your luck. I've had 5 cellular devices in my "family" for years... and after 1 year, the batteries are no longer the same. By two years, you MUST buy a new battery. I just bought a new battery for my G1... less than 2 weeks ago... its already acting funny. Problem is, that replacement batteries aren't OEM. So they NEVER last or behave like OEM. Buying an OEM battery would be nice... but _IF_ they are still available, are outrageously expensive... because the OEMs want you to buy new phones... not new batteries.

I don't think asking a battery to work normally for 2 years is so outrageous.

And PC's? Failing devices? Just mosey into any public school, and you can bet you'll find PC's with Windows 3.11 from the early nineties still in operation. My IBM from 1997 still is running with all the original parts including the hard-drive. All that's been done is an upgrade of RAM back in 1999, and Windows Updates. The reason devices like PC's often 'fail' is because people don't take care of them.

I'll tell you why those '90s computers still run. They were made before the Capacitor Plague. Cap rot has destroyed nearly every problematic device I've had for the last 10 years.

All because the Asians stealing technology from each other was so rampant that they stole an incomplete electrolyte formula... and it spread so fast before anyone noticed it made for short lived capacitors.

Luckily, I'm finding it easier to just replace the caps. Next time you have something mid-2000s run flaky, open it up and look at the capacitors... if they are pushed off the board or the tops are popped... bad cap.

Not all cell phones or networks are created equal. If your friend gets dropped calls and poor call quality, switch networks, do som research, and buy a quality phone.

Easy for you to say... Or I. I bet we both are well informed and would still recommend different phones... or even different networks.

Can you still buy a dead simple phone without all the features?

Jitterbug!

My GF has a "simple phone"... it still sucks, because as everyone flocks to crappy phones, the bar is lower for everyone else. I make fun of my GF's phone by calling it a "Jitterbug"... until she saw hear 90 year old neighbors had one. Now she wants one. :-(

Oh... one last note... Balthy, good old land lines suck now too. Verizon has dropped the ball and it neglecting its copper infrastructure so bad while pushing other services, such as fiber... that I never get clear connections on land lines anymore. Being near the beach don't help.

Landlines are nice for a few reasons... Real 911... Land phones work without electric... so you can use 911 when the lights go out.

Worse, it seems like you can't even buy a decent land line phone any more.

[SAmadei]

When I got this one, nothing more basic was available.

Unfortunately, it sounds like you got a bargain phone then... low cost, low quality. Unfortunately, just like you can't buy a inexpensive high performance sedan (Pontiac G8) from GM anymore, in the phone world, you have to choose between a Chevy Aveo and a RHD Cadillac XTS with all its instrumentation and manual in Swedish. Yeah, the XTS phone sucks... but its still marginally better at handling a call than the Aveo phone... assuming you can figure out how to make a call ;-)

Man, My Rola-RAZR is the best phone ever, it floats...

The RAZR was one of the best phones EVER. Good performance for its time, small and stylish... and VERY good call quality. The old StarTac was a good phone, too. Sister got her's secondhand... broke it and reglued it back together so many times it wasn't funny. Must've been 6 years old when it finally died for the last time.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that has noticed the drop in call quality.

Well, knowing that only so much data can be run over a particular radio signal, it only makes sense that as users (and usage) go up, network quality will go down. Thats why so many people are willing to hop to a new radio signal... such as the 4G stuff.

As far as AT&T. I really HATED giving my Verizon account up because of their excellent coverage. Their customer service sucks harder than a rocked out hooker, but the coverage was awesome. I went with AT&T to get the iPhone. Now I can only hope that VZW gets the iPhone4 or I can peek at the Droids and contemplate a change. Not sure what I'll do yet.

I have the 3GS and I'm running the latest version of iOS4 without any issues. I take it you have a 3G? Yeah, blame Apple's Speed of Sound Plan for Planned Obsolesce as to why it won't run anything like it should. I'm a little afraid about what's going happen to my iPhone later on down the road. Hopefully the iPhone 5 won't suck as hard as the 4 currently does.

Oh... Oh, you poor souls.

Yeah, once you've admitted to owning an iPhone, your cellular phone opinions are no longer valid. :-P

AT&T was such a hideous network _BEFORE_ the iPhone. When we heard about the IPhone being exclusive to AT&T, it was like a cruel joke. Here's a Lamborghini for $15... but you can't drive it unless you bring Mike "The Situation" Sorrentino with you.

What does the Droid offer? Network choice. Thats all I need. It will be interesting when Verizon gets the iPhone... but I will likely continue to stick with the BB and the Droid. No offense to iPhone people here... but a lot iPhone people I know become very smug about their iPhone purchases... kinda like Prius people.

What I REALLY like about the Droid are the customized OS packages... such as Cyanogen. Yeah, some of the manufacturers are trying to block that stuff, but its nothing like the iPhone jailbreak/bricking war Apple is waging.

I like having a BASH command line on my phone.

Edited October 15, 2010 by SAmadei

[Croc]

I've never had a problem with Cingular / AT&T. Great coverage, and fast data transfers. Honestly, Blackberry's old-school browser is the bottleneck there, and that's remedied with OS6. I'll be getting an OS6-compatible phone this Xmas most likely, either a Torch or an updated Bold (love the Bold, just need OS6, and hope the updated one is more like the 9000 than the 9700 from a size standpoint. Haven't played with a Torch yet...I'm not a huge fan of touch screens, and so I gotta see how irritating its is, though the slider keyboard is awesome in concept).

[Camino LS6]

Unfortunately, it sounds like you got a bargain phone then... low cost, low quality. Unfortunately, just like you can't buy a inexpensive high performance sedan (Pontiac G8) from GM anymore, in the phone world, you have to choose between a Chevy Aveo and a RHD Cadillac XTS with all its instrumentation and manual in Swedish. Yeah, the XTS phone sucks... but its still marginally better at handling a call than the Aveo phone... assuming you can figure out how to make a call ;-)

Actually it wasn't at the time.

It's a Motorola ic502. One of my requirements for a phone was that it not be fragile, given my activities on a daily basis.

It was a Nextel phone, so now I have sprint by default.

[Z-06]

Bob come out of your cave in Paoli.

[Blake Noble]

Oh... Oh, you poor souls.

Yeah, once you've admitted to owning an iPhone, your cellular phone opinions are no longer valid. :-P

AT&T was such a hideous network _BEFORE_ the iPhone. When we heard about the IPhone being exclusive to AT&T, it was like a cruel joke. Here's a Lamborghini for $15... but you can't drive it unless you bring Mike "The Situation" Sorrentino with you.

What does the Droid offer? Network choice. Thats all I need. It will be interesting when Verizon gets the iPhone... but I will likely continue to stick with the BB and the Droid. No offense to iPhone people here... but a lot iPhone people I know become very smug about their iPhone purchases... kinda like Prius people.

What I REALLY like about the Droid are the customized OS packages... such as Cyanogen. Yeah, some of the manufacturers are trying to block that stuff, but its nothing like the iPhone jailbreak/bricking war Apple is waging.

I like having a BASH command line on my phone.

1.) I had Cingular before I had Cell One before I had Verizon and before I had AT&T. I do remember what AT&T's network was like pre-iPhone and, yep, it sucked like a Florida coke whore. When I had Cingular, I of course had a RAZR, so it wasn't like I had some cheap-o phone that couldn't use the network to its fullest. The iPhone has been the best thing to happen to AT&T mainly because, if it wasn't exclusive to them, this network would be stuck in the stone age.

2.) The iPhone should also be coming to T-Mobile sometime soon.

3.) It isn't illegal to jailbreak an iPhone and carriers can't deny service to you if you do jailbreak one. Federal law made that happen. Apple may have to just drop that war.

[z28luvr01]

If only carriers would align their contract terms with the shelf life of the phone. Every phone I've ever had limps through the last 6-12 months of a two year contract, dropping calls and delaying or not sending text messages or voicemails.

Pretty sure my next setup is going to be a Droid something on Verizon when my contract with ATT runs out in April.

[SAmadei]

3.) It isn't illegal to jailbreak an iPhone and carriers can't deny service to you if you do jailbreak one. Federal law made that happen. Apple may have to just drop that war.

Well, whats illegal and what Apple does to make the jailbreakers' lives difficult are two different things.

Honestly, I don't follow jailbreaking the iPhone much anymore, as I don't have to fight off corporate iPhones for their security issues right now.

In the Droid world, instead of Jailbreaking issues, some manufacturers/resellers are making it so that if you change the OS, it bricks or reloads the proper OS automagically. They are trying to do this in the name of security... IIRC this is an issue for the Droid Evo and the Droid X... and people are trying to use the GPL to get it so the phones are truly open... the theory being that by creating a phone with hardware that makes it difficult, if not impossible to update the OS with a custom OS, that this would be against the GPL. Should be an interesting battle... but of course, it wouldn't be the first time that enforcing the GPL was an issue.

[FUTURE_OF_GM]

Oh... Oh, you poor souls.

Yeah, once you've admitted to owning an iPhone, your cellular phone opinions are no longer valid. :-P

AT&T was such a hideous network _BEFORE_ the iPhone. When we heard about the IPhone being exclusive to AT&T, it was like a cruel joke. Here's a Lamborghini for $15... but you can't drive it unless you bring Mike "The Situation" Sorrentino with you.

What does the Droid offer? Network choice. Thats all I need. It will be interesting when Verizon gets the iPhone... but I will likely continue to stick with the BB and the Droid. No offense to iPhone people here... but a lot iPhone people I know become very smug about their iPhone purchases... kinda like Prius people.

What I REALLY like about the Droid are the customized OS packages... such as Cyanogen. Yeah, some of the manufacturers are trying to block that stuff, but its nothing like the iPhone jailbreak/bricking war Apple is waging.

I like having a BASH command line on my phone.

Mine is pre-Droid. Had the Droid been around, I might've stuck with VZW.

I was SO anti-iPhone until the GF bought hers. I started using it and got hooked.

[SAmadei]

I was SO anti-iPhone until the GF bought hers. I started using it and got hooked.

Well, the iPhone is a slick package. Very well finished. Smooth action, good UI for the targeted buyer.

I can live with some warts in the UI. When I wasn't horrified by the network, I was worried about the iPhone's durability, especially with its screen. I don't carry my G1 with me all the time, but I do carry the BB with me... and I carried BB's with me since 2004. I've done things to my BB's I can't believe they survived. Yardwork, junkyard, working on the house. I've covered them with dirt and dust... dropped them in water... crushed them, dropped them... only ever broke one, when I clipped the corner of the screen hard on a rack while moving some heavy servers around. I also got a hole in my pants and drew blood... so I can't really blame the phone.

[Robert Hall]

I like my motorola droid. Had it since may..my only internet connection this weekend in amish country.

[Camino LS6]

I can't believe my little rant thread turned into such a big deal!

Wow!

[Drew Dowdell]

[Robert Hall]

I've been with Verizon since it was AirTouch.

My first cellphone back in the mid '90s was a Motorola StarTac, the first flip phone. Had a wierd skinny Sony (on a corporate MCI plan) for a while after that, then an Audiovox something, then back to Motorolas--had two Motorola V60 flip phones in the mid oughts; then a Samsung Chocolate and now the Motorola Droid.

Almost strayed into tiny Nokias when they were trendy (circa 2000). Avoided the iPhone because of AT&T..love the Droid.

How about this for a crappy phone--when I was back in Ohio last weekend, by brother was pestering me about finding a source for a battery for his Oki 2500 phone..from 1996. I eventually convinced him no carrier would support a phone that old now and suggested a TracPhone might be the way to go.

Edited October 19, 2010 by Cubical-aka-Moltar

[Justin Bimmer]

Droid X