Just realized something... Cobalt

[Newbiewar]

i never realized that on the cobalt they had 2 different bolt paderns? a 4 bolt and 5 bolt for the rims...

is it just SS models to get the 5 bolt?

[NOS2006]

Yep, I belive only the SS and SS SC get the 5 bolt patterns.

[PurdueGuy]

yup - just like the Ion vs Ion Redline.

[Flybrian]

This is odd because (if I'm not mistaken) the Cavalier had 5-lug wheels for the longest time. Why does the Cobalt get 4-luggers? Isn't this somehow inferior?

[sciguy_0504]

I guess wheel size and power make a difference? I thought you could only have 4 or 5 or 6 bolts on a model due to the axle design. I guess not...

[Northstar]

It seems GMPD gives them one extra lug. V-Series cars have 6 lugs while normal versions have 5.

[Guest YellowJacket894]

I really fail to see much of an advantage in this approach. I'm thinking it may have to do with more meaty tires, but...

Edited March 12, 2006 by YellowJacket894

[PurdueGuy]

The Redline/SS SC (maybe the non/SC SS, not sure) have different axles & such from the regular Ion/Cobalt, so it's not just the lug pattern that's different. People who want to drop the 2.0L into their 2.2L Ion/Cobalt are quickly dissapointed when they find out just how much is different.

[Guest YellowJacket894]

The Redline/SS SC (maybe the non/SC SS, not sure) have different axles & such from the regular Ion/Cobalt, so it's not just the lug pattern that's different. People who want to drop the 2.0L into their 2.2L Ion/Cobalt are quickly dissapointed when they find out just how much is different.

I knew different, beefier axles had to do with the 5-lug design, but still. Are the axles on the regular Cobalt/Ion so weak they can't handle anything over 170 horsepower?

Anyway, I guess if someone wants to get horsepower boost in a 2.2, they'll just have to buy an aftermarket supercharger. Actually, it sounds slightly cheaper than going all the way with buying an SS or Redline edition of those cars but that's a different story for a different time.

[PurdueGuy]

there are lots of other advantages beyond the hp to the RL/SS SC. IMO, if someone is serious about having a performance car, the money is worth it.

[C.H.U.D.]

It's all in the wheel hub assembly. I'm guessing they wanted to beef it up for more powerful models.

[Newbiewar]

The Redline/SS SC (maybe the non/SC SS, not sure) have different axles & such from the regular Ion/Cobalt, so it's not just the lug pattern that's different. People who want to drop the 2.0L into their 2.2L Ion/Cobalt are quickly dissapointed when they find out just how much is different.

I knew different, beefier axles had to do with the 5-lug design, but still. Are the axles on the regular Cobalt/Ion so weak they can't handle anything over 170 horsepower?

Anyway, I guess if someone wants to get horsepower boost in a 2.2, they'll just have to buy an aftermarket supercharger. Actually, it sounds slightly cheaper than going all the way with buying an SS or Redline edition of those cars but that's a different story for a different time.

well if you want to publish a book about How to get your cobalt to stage 5 (5 being 500 hp)... i really hope they dont put that kind of strength on the base model...

[the_yellow_dart]

While we're talking Cobalts... I like this badge treatment (though I would keep the bowtie as well).

How hard would this be to do?

[PurdueGuy]

I assume they just moved the letters - it's not hard to do. IIRC, you just use a heat gun to warm the adhesive, then move them. Might need new adhesive, not sure. Find out from someone who knows better before doing anything, but I think that's the basic idea.