"The Sweltering"

[Camino LS6]

Should be the name of a horror film based on this summer's weather.

[Robert Hall]

The cool front continues here:

Local Text Forecast for

Phoenix, AZ (85014)

Jul 7 Tonight

Partly cloudy skies. Warm. Low 81F. Winds SSW at 5 to 10 mph.

Jul 8 Tomorrow

A mainly sunny sky. High 109F. Winds S at 5 to 10 mph.

Jul 8 Tomorrow night

Partly cloudy. Warm. Low near 85F. Winds NE at 5 to 10 mph.

Jul 9 Friday

Mix of sun and clouds. Highs 104 to 108F and lows in the mid 80s.

Jul 10 Saturday

Mix of sun and clouds. Highs 102 to 106F and lows in the mid 80s.

Jul 11 Sunday

Partly cloudy. Highs in the mid 90s and lows in the low 80s.

Jul 12 Monday

More sun than clouds. Highs 99 to 103F and lows in the low 80s.

Jul 13 Tuesday

Mainly sunny. Highs 105 to 109F and lows in the low 80s.

Jul 14 Wednesday

Sunshine. Highs 105 to 109F and lows in the mid 80s.

Jul 15 Thursday

Plenty of sun. Highs 104 to 108F and lows in the mid 80s.

Jul 16 Friday

A few clouds. Highs 105 to 109F and lows in the upper 80s.

[Camino LS6]

It's been over 100 for several days now, please take your weather home Cubitar!

Seriously though, this is so wrong for PA. Everything is turning brown and shrivelling-up, including the weeds. The lack of rain is even more troubling than the awful heat.

[Robert Hall]

It's been over 100 for several days now, please take your weather home Cubitar!

Was over 110 a few days last week, so it's cooling off now.. And it's a dry heat

Seriously though, this is so wrong for PA. Everything is turning brown and shrivelling-up, including the weeds. The lack of rain is even more troubling than the awful heat.

Humid also, I assume? Sounds like it's been pretty hot in Ohio also, but w/ occasional thunderstorms..

[Camino LS6]

Humidity has been increasing, but the heat has been the real story. About half of June was above 90, and all of July so far has been even hotter. No storms to speak of since the big destructive one. The ground is bone dry and cracked, and plants are wilting and dropping leaves after going into premature fall color.

All very scary for this part of PA.

[Robert Hall]

Humidity has been increasing, but the heat has been the real story. About half of June was above 90, and all of July so far has been even hotter. No storms to speak of since the big destructive one. The ground is bone dry and cracked, and plants are wilting and dropping leaves after going into premature fall color.

All very scary for this part of PA.

Sounds very unusual...I can remember summers like that in E. Ohio, where it was so dry and the yard browned out, water level in the ponds and creeks went down low...and other summers with constant thunderstorms..

Though I remember the really hot weather coming later in the summer, like late July and August.

Edited July 7, 2010 by Cubical-aka-Moltar

[Camino LS6]

It is.

We are usually wet and green here most of the time. Now it's all dry and dusty - reminds me of northern California.

Very disturbing.

EDIT: Our August weather started in the beginning of June this year.

Edited July 7, 2010 by Camino LS6

[loki]

eh... our weather just moved your way... "swamp east missouri"

coming home from work today an area that had rained... at least a 5, prolly a 10 degree drop. windows down was very nice, till i got into the rain.

[balthazar]

I'm afraid it's my fault; after the soggy spring- I demanded a drought. Sorry, have already asked for last weeks' weather (low 80s), but it's on back order.

Insane here- I cannot work since my current jobs are pretty much all outside. Sigh.

[Camino LS6]

I hope it is heading our way, we really need it.

I'm afraid it's my fault; after the soggy spring- I demanded a drought. Sorry, have already asked for last weeks' weather (low 80s), but it's on back order.

Insane here- I cannot work since my current jobs are pretty much all outside. Sigh.

So you're the culprit!

[Blake Noble]

It's no different here in KY. In fact, I'll make a bet and say it's slightly worse. Today's high was flirting happily with 100. I was riding in a friend's work truck without air conditioning going to a job site and by the time I got out of the passenger seat, I had taken a sweat bath.

The Camaro was just too unbearable to drive today even with working air conditioning. Sometimes, you get what you pay for with black on black. (I finally have the car sorted out and I also didn't want to take a chance on breaking it again.)

There is a 60 percent chance of storms on Friday with a clear weekend ahead somewhere to the mid to upper 80s. Not much of an improvement, but I'll take it. After that, there's a chance of storms from Monday to next Friday.

I'm fully expecting some nasty weather to brew up before summer is done and I mean the works. The heat and humidity has been lingering around for too long and the right conditions can make for some ... interesting scenarios.

Edited July 7, 2010 by whiteknight

[Z-06]

Al Gore got separated, weather had to take the heat.

[ocnblu]

[Intrepidation]

Been in the 90's since Sunday, we broke 100 yesterday. Was 96 today. Dew Points have been running in the 70's since Monday. It's brutal.

Can't believe I worked on the car today and didn't pass out.

A/C is one of the greatest inventions ever. Glad I picked one up last month.

I'll say one thing for Toyota, they make damn good air conditioning systems for their cars.

[intrigued]

Awful in the Tri-state area. It's been mid 90s for the past week and the last 2 days have been over 100. My commute has SUCKED. I have a mile walk to the train station and then another half mile from Grand Central to my office in NYC. Thats the worse part as NYC is even hotter then the surrounding burbs. It hit 105 yesterday afternoon in midtown.

Also I am training for a half Marathon in early November. I'm up to comfortably running in the 3-4 mile range. On July 4 I went out for a run at the local highschool track near my parents house. I only made it 1.5 mles before i had to call it quits. I think I sweated off 5 lbs.

[daves87rs]

Oh, we're not done yet....(just don't hate me)

[Lamar]

Funny, but when we were getting ready to move down here to GA, everyone warned me about the heat (like I didn't already know ).

Now, everyone in MD is getting worse heat than we've had over the last week.

[daves87rs]

Should be an interesting one...

[Camino LS6]

"Down" into the nineties today w/some cloud cover - marginally better.

Still no rain yet.

[balthazar]

I worked one outside job today- about 1pm-8pm; kept in the shade and there actually was a nice breeze at times. It was hot but completely bearable... but I may have been more motivated: what with Monday off, and Tues-Wed off from the heat. I sit that long (5 days) and I get very itchy. If Friday is like today was, I'll be content w/ that.

[Camino LS6]

I won't be happy until we get some real rain.

[daves87rs]

Got rain here....a decent amount, too.

[GMTruckGuy74]

I've been hibernating in my A/C cooled house during this heatwave... feel really bad for the wife, being 9 months pregnant and not being too comfortable due to the heat & high humidity (the baby is due any day now). My poor fleet is in dire need of a thorough detail/wash, but with the baby due at any moment and this heat, the vehicles will remain dirty

[Camino LS6]

Finally raining.

[balthazar]

Just spittin on this side of the DE.

We got a 5-min downpour yesterday around noon, then the sun popped right back out.

The birch is dropping leaves here already...

[Camino LS6]

Nice, gentle, all-day rain here - with maybe more to come.

Lots of trees and shrubs are under drought stress and showing fall color/dropping leaves though.

Still a bad situation.

[SAmadei]

Lots of trees and shrubs are under drought stress and showing fall color/dropping leaves though.

Still a bad situation.

Camino, how well do you know tree problems? I have an young Red Oak I planted two years ago... its thriving, but barely. Both seasons a month after leaving out, the leaves have gone very pale green/yellow. I heard it might be chloritis due to a lack of iron, but this is a tree is in a line of other oaks, half of which are Red Oaks. Plus our area tends to be fairly iron rich. Plus the leafs are totally yellowish, not leaving the veins green like I've heard iron chloritis. Any thoughts on helping it out?

[Camino LS6]

Camino, how well do you know tree problems? I have an young Red Oak I planted two years ago... its thriving, but barely. Both seasons a month after leaving out, the leaves have gone very pale green/yellow. I heard it might be chloritis due to a lack of iron, but this is a tree is in a line of other oaks, half of which are Red Oaks. Plus our area tends to be fairly iron rich. Plus the leafs are totally yellowish, not leaving the veins green like I've heard iron chloritis. Any thoughts on helping it out?

Oaks tend to not like alkaline soils very much at all. In fact, being planted near concrete, limestone, or other alkaline debris could cause what you are seeing. Try having the soil PH tested, and then treating the soil around the tree if it is too alkaline. The PH of the soil can block the uptake of iron by plants and trees.

[SAmadei]

Oaks tend to not like alkaline soils very much at all. In fact, being planted near concrete, limestone, or other alkaline debris could cause what you are seeing. Try having the soil PH tested, and then treating the soil around the tree if it is too alkaline. The PH of the soil can block the uptake of iron by plants and trees.

This is borderline pine barrens... so its generally pretty acidic. Usually Oaks thrive here... I have about 45 Oaks in the yard over 4" diameter (red, black, scarlet, white, chesnut, willow, pin) mostly planted by squirrels... ;-)

Closest concrete is over 100 ft away... the road is 19 ft away, but has always been stone/tar or asphalt construction.

I'll have to break down and get a PH set and double check that.

[Camino LS6]

Another thing to check is the possibility that that particular tree may have "wet feet". If there is standing water or mushy soil around it for any length of time you might see the same symptoms.

[ocnblu]

I just got wet feet going out onto my deck to look around. It was fantastic, after the heat wave.

[RjION]

What ...... is it getting to hot for you boys, how many months in a row does it stay over 100* in your neck of the woods.

It was 99* at 6:30 when I went out back for my morning coffee.

Edited July 11, 2010 by RjION

[Camino LS6]

That might be right in the Arizona desert, but here it is supposed to be 85 degrees as a high this time of year. At this point, we've had bearly a month of days above 90.

Very wrong for this area.

[Robert Hall]

What ...... is it getting to hot for you boys, how many months in a row does it stay over 100* in your neck of the woods.

It was 99* at 6:30 when I went out back for my morning coffee.

Yeah, I've come to accept disgusting heat from May through Sept as part of the price of living in AZ. At least the rest of the year the weather is great.

Having lived in both humid climates (Ohio, Michigan, Illinois, S. Florida) and dry climates (Colorado, AZ) there is a big difference---95-100 degrees with 98% humidity feels worse than the 110 w/ 20% humidity here does.

[ocnblu]

With a well-insulated house, it's prolly much easier to keep cool with an a/c down there, too.

[RjION]

You girls are going to have to dry your panties.

[Intrepidation]

Dry Arizona heat where the Dew Points are low is much more comfortable than an air mass with high Dew Points. It may be 105, but with Dew Points in the mid 50's it's much less uncomfortable than 91 with Dew Points in the low 70's.

As for me...well this weather makes it a PITA to do outdoor activities like work on the car...but air conditioning keeps things nice and cool inside.

[ocnblu]

You girls are going to have to dry your panties.

Funny boy, that Rj.

[RjION]

I have never lived anyplace in the world thats had 98% humidity. Not Mlps, not KC, not Jacksonville, hell Viet Nam was much cooler year around..................just take your panties off and and hang em out to dry.

[SAmadei]

I have never lived anyplace in the world thats had 98% humidity. Not Mlps, not KC, not Jacksonville, hell Viet Nam was much cooler year around..................just take your panties off and and hang em out to dry.

I doubt that. 100% humidity happens in most temperate places at least at some or another. 100% humidity means that the air is as saturated with water vapor as it can be... increasing the water vapor or lowering the temperature (and thus reducing the vapor carrying ability of the air) will result in dew or frost. KC, Jacksonville and Vietnam all experience one or the other.

Sure, as it gets hotter during the day, the humidity goes down, but that humidity still stays somewhat high (compared to the desert) and impairs the body's ability to regulate its temperature. Its this impairment that we are referring to. I've been to the desert... 115 in the desert is no problem (assuming you are properly hydrated)... more so if you find some shade... compared to 90 degrees in the muggy areas in the east, which is virtually inescapable outdoors.

[daves87rs]

You girls are going to have to dry your panties.

I doubt that. 100% humidity happens in most temperate places at least at some or another. 100% humidity means that the air is as saturated with water vapor as it can be... increasing the water vapor or lowering the temperature (and thus reducing the vapor carrying ability of the air) will result in dew or frost. KC, Jacksonville and Vietnam all experience one or the other.

Sure, as it gets hotter during the day, the humidity goes down, but that humidity still stays somewhat high (compared to the desert) and impairs the body's ability to regulate its temperature. Its this impairment that we are referring to. I've been to the desert... 115 in the desert is no problem (assuming you are properly hydrated)... more so if you find some shade... compared to 90 degrees in the muggy areas in the east, which is virtually inescapable outdoors.

True...

[Robert Hall]

I doubt that. 100% humidity happens in most temperate places at least at some or another. 100% humidity means that the air is as saturated with water vapor as it can be... increasing the water vapor or lowering the temperature (and thus reducing the vapor carrying ability of the air) will result in dew or frost. KC, Jacksonville and Vietnam all experience one or the other.

Sure, as it gets hotter during the day, the humidity goes down, but that humidity still stays somewhat high (compared to the desert) and impairs the body's ability to regulate its temperature. Its this impairment that we are referring to. I've been to the desert... 115 in the desert is no problem (assuming you are properly hydrated)... more so if you find some shade... compared to 90 degrees in the muggy areas in the east, which is virtually inescapable outdoors.

Speaking from past experience, even w/ the ocean breezes, Miami in July is pretty steamy...the humidity is very close to 100% when it's not raining...likewise for eastern Ohio in July-August.

[Intrepidation]

I doubt that. 100% humidity happens in most temperate places at least at some or another. 100% humidity means that the air is as saturated with water vapor as it can be... increasing the water vapor or lowering the temperature (and thus reducing the vapor carrying ability of the air) will result in dew or frost. KC, Jacksonville and Vietnam all experience one or the other.

Sure, as it gets hotter during the day, the humidity goes down, but that humidity still stays somewhat high (compared to the desert) and impairs the body's ability to regulate its temperature. Its this impairment that we are referring to. I've been to the desert... 115 in the desert is no problem (assuming you are properly hydrated)... more so if you find some shade... compared to 90 degrees in the muggy areas in the east, which is virtually inescapable outdoors.

Yep, and to add to that, Dew Points have more to do with how "humid" it feels than the actual humidity percentage. The closer the dew point is to the air temperature, the higher the humidity percentage.

[Robert Hall]

Yep, and to add to that, Dew Points have more to do with how "humid" it feels than the actual humidity percentage. The closer the dew point is to the air temperature, the higher the humidity percentage.

Then there is heat index, which I'm not quite sure what that is..

[tmp]

calculating heat index

This is what they refer to on Weather.com as the "real feel" temp

[Robert Hall]

Felt really humid outside around 5:30 this morning..supposed to hit 112 today, 114-115 by Thursday. Chance of monsoon storms over the weekend. Going to the beach Friday..

[Camino LS6]

Got a bunch of desperately needed rain last night and today.

Very soupy now.

And predicted to stay above 90 and humid for the next 7 days.

Ugh.

Isn't summer over yet?

[knightfan26917]

Isn't summer over yet?

Just two more days ... or so it feels, anyway.

Me ... I prefer spring/summer/fall to winter. I strongly dislike cold. So ... send all the heat to me, please. Yes, despite my health issues, I much prefer HOT weather.

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[RjION]

I doubt that. 100% humidity happens in most temperate places at least at some or another. 100% humidity means that the air is as saturated with water vapor as it can be... increasing the water vapor or lowering the temperature (and thus reducing the vapor carrying ability of the air) will result in dew or frost. KC, Jacksonville and Vietnam all experience one or the other.

Sure, as it gets hotter during the day, the humidity goes down, but that humidity still stays somewhat high (compared to the desert) and impairs the body's ability to regulate its temperature. Its this impairment that we are referring to. I've been to the desert... 115 in the desert is no problem (assuming you are properly hydrated)... more so if you find some shade... compared to 90 degrees in the muggy areas in the east, which is virtually inescapable outdoors.

LOL ................... dry your panties

[balthazar]

I am deathly afraid to get the next electric bill...