You've got a reputation to maintain.

[regfootball]

Frankly, if we have a moderating team, I don't see the NEED for the rep system. I also think that in the case of smk, people automatically vote him down. I see his negative reps are already quite high, and some of those posts actually weren't bad at all.

its a case of some folks simply not liking him and his POV although I see he often makes incredibly valid points. Its just that some folks don't want to think another side of an issue exists.

Some of the posting to rebut the notion that the next corvette could have something besides a v8 and something besides pushrod I felt was extreme and not proper in the way it tried to beat people's opinions down. so i make the assumption that all that does is give those who don't even want to think of the alternative ammo to just go minusing a bunch of people. truth is if you went down to GM and talked to the engineers there they would no doubt be considering every alternative possible.

Did anyone ever think Harley would actually build a MODERN powertrain for their motorcycles? Wow, a porsche designed overhead cam liquid cooled screamer on a HARLEY and the tank ain't even atop the motor. Yet there is no possibility GM can ever put anything in a corvette besides a huge v8. The reaction to the possibility was rather caustic in places and that sort of thing I am not sure if a points system doesn't in fact just promote more of the toxicity rather than going into greater detail on discussing all facets of the topic.

[Croc]

How about this: is it possible to simply have a positive rating? That way it would be self-regulating without being as much of a bully situation--it would work the same way; you could see posters who have a certain positive rating or higher, but the negative wouldn't come into play. That way the system could be less punitive, and therefore positive.

What do other people think?

[Drew Dowdell]

How about this: is it possible to simply have a positive rating? That way it would be self-regulating without being as much of a bully situation--it would work the same way; you could see posters who have a certain positive rating or higher, but the negative wouldn't come into play. That way the system could be less punitive, and therefore positive.

What do other people think?

Says the guy who's given out more negative rep than anyone else .

I've switched it to positive only.

[A Horse With No Name]

Probably a good thing....positive only is a nice rational means of self moderation.

Chris

[Croc]

Says the guy who's given out more negative rep than anyone else .

I've switched it to positive only.

LOL, but I've given out far more positive than I have negative--hence my complaint about hitting my quota, which never happened with the negatives. Just trying to be pragmatic.

Edited December 9, 2009 by Croc

[balthazar]

This discussion only reminds me of eBay- when they removed the negative feedback capability. That only REDUCED the self-regulation, but this isn't a transaction-based site.

I waste enought time here already so even with smk's garbage, I don't foresee myself partaking.

[daves87rs]

Frankly, if we have a moderating team, I don't see the NEED for the rep system. I also think that in the case of smk, people automatically vote him down. I see his negative reps are already quite high, and some of those posts actually weren't bad at all.

Good point.

[ocnblu]

We have a good group, but a rating system is a much too easy invitation for abuse. Glad to see it's been switched to positive-only. It is good to hear contrary opinions, the back-and-forth hashing out is part of the fun of being a forum member. Getting rid of ppl who disagree is not good... we are all trainable. Working to win over a contrarian is satisfying. Hearing and considering opposing opinions is good for widening one's plymouth horizons.

[regfootball]

We have a good group, but a rating system is a much too easy invitation for abuse. Glad to see it's been switched to positive-only. It is good to hear contrary opinions, the back-and-forth hashing out is part of the fun of being a forum member. Getting rid of ppl who disagree is not good... we are all trainable. Working to win over a contrarian is satisfying. Hearing and considering opposing opinions is good for widening one's plymouth horizons.

plymouth horizon tc3?

[loki]

i'll prolly only rep things up that are fantastic finds.... ,muppets and queen,maybe, but i can't rep myself.

[Intrepidation]

Yeah after I noticed that someone ended up with -31 from basically one thread, I felt something needed to be done.

If there was a way to just rate posts like on Autoblog rather than having them add up on the actual user, I'd be more for that.

[daves87rs]

i'll prolly only rep things up that are fantastic finds.... ,muppets and queen,maybe, but i can't rep myself.

Nice!

[Intrepidation]

A little update.

After looking through the settings we've discovered that the point accumulations for members can be turned off. So now when you rep a post it reps only the post and not the member.

With this in mind, positive and negative reps have been reinstated, since now only posts, and not users, will show as being repped.

[loki]

dodgefan... i was thinking of upping your post's rep... i agree. but it'd feel wrong to give the post that fixed the rep quagmire more rep. i think i shall bring it back down.

[loki]

Nice!

+1 rep!!!!!!

[daves87rs]

Very interesting stuff there!

[Camino LS6]

Been ignoring the feature - missed this whole debate/discussion.

[Camino LS6]

Says the guy who's given out more negative rep than anyone else .

I've switched it to positive only.

If there's one thing I've learned about Croc over the years, it's his affection for rules and authority.

[Croc]

If there's one thing I've learned about Croc over the years, it's his affection for rules and authority.

Nah, I just have a low tolerance for nonsense.

[Camino LS6]

Oh come on, admit it, you're an authoritarian.

Law and order is big for you.

[Croc]

Oh come on, admit it, you're an authoritarian.

Law and order is big for you.

Actually, I'm really not authoritarian...like at all. I pretty much recall enforcing the rules on personal attacks pretty stringently (let's be honest, that's why we have a higher level of discussion vs. other sites) and suspending posting privileges swiftly for trolls (e.g. rubenoff, of "too much light, too many candela" fame).

[Camino LS6]

OK, we'll just say you are a bit "earnest".

[Croc]

OK, we'll just say you are a bit "earnest".

That's fair; I don't believe in just half-assing things.

[RjION]

I've got a reputation to maintain ..... I want to see myself at 20 below asap

[daves87rs]

I've got a reputation to maintain ..... I want to see myself at 20 below asap

Hmmm...okay?

[RjION]

Thats a Girl ........... vote again and often

[daves87rs]

Thats a Girl ........... vote again and often

WTF?

[RjION]

WTF <--------------Is that a special code?

if so EDIT WTGG

Edited January 11, 2010 by RjION

[Drew Dowdell]

A few of you have PMed me to complain about one user or another's posts lately.  The reputation system is there for you to express your displeasure.  In the near future, after the upgrade of the board software to 4.1, posts that get enough negative votes will be hidden from view.

[Drew Dowdell]

Okay, can everyone just take a break from voting for a bit? 

 

The guys that came from MT, could you please leave the interpersonal drama over there?   I can see everyone's voting habits and it is clear that a select few are playing scorched earth with the voting system.   

 

I'm going on vacation starting tomorrow and I want to know that you're know going to blow the place up.  I can set it to only positive voting, but I don't want to because there are times when a negative vote is warranted.

 

Just be pals and talk cars.  It's that simple. 

[Drew Dowdell]

Screw it.... on my vacation you guys can only vote up.   If you don't like it... well you can't vote me down now can you?

[balthazar]

Well… at least you thought it over for (some portion of) 5 whole minutes before reversing course.

[William Maley]

Screw it.... on my vacation you guys can only vote up.   If you don't like it... well you can't vote me down now can you?

I see this working well... 

[Drew Dowdell]

Well… at least you thought it over for (some portion of) 5 whole minutes before reversing course.

 

I'm not indecisive... I just want to be able to relax on my upcoming vacation. Downvoting will return after I return.   If it continues to be an issue, I may look at other solutions as well. 

[balthazar]

First thing I'm going to do after your return is downvote your vacation; I haven't had one in 2 years.

Have a great time anyway; try not to worry about me too much, working like a dog in the Jersey humidity while you party it up!

[oldshurst442]

Have fun on your vacation, Drew.

[oldshurst442]

On a lighter side of things....about my rep....I guess Heinz was my inspiration.

[oldshurst442]

Ill try to work myself up to 69....

 

I know what you dirty dogs are thinking...

Shame on you for having sinful thoughts...

 

I was thinking more in terms of a 1969 Hurst Olds...like my name...TSK TSK TSK  on all of you with your dirty, perverted minds...

[cp-the-nerd]

Kind of embarrassing it came to this specifically because of the MT forum crew.

[Intrepidation]

[ocnblu]

Oh my...

[G. David Felt]

 

Well… at least you thought it over for (some portion of) 5 whole minutes before reversing course.

 

I'm not indecisive... I just want to be able to relax on my upcoming vacation. Downvoting will return after I return.   If it continues to be an issue, I may look at other solutions as well. 

 

Rock on Drew you deserve it.

First thing I'm going to do after your return is downvote your vacation; I haven't had one in 2 years.

Have a great time anyway; try not to worry about me too much, working like a dog in the Jersey humidity while you party it up!

Bro you make sure to stay hydrated and plan some vacation time, I know speaking from experience that I took none for the last 4 years and finally had my first vacation once the wife graduated college this spring. It was a real recharge and we all need them.

 

Do not work to hard outside without drinking plenty and please take a vacation.

[El Kabong]

Enjoy your vacation. I'm sorry that you felt the need to implement this. But sadly, it is what it is.

[FAPTurbo]

[ocnblu]

Well I want to down-vote a few of the posts above but I can't, so I'll just up-vote them! 

[Suaviloquent]

Well, I think the rep score is kind of like a game to me. For me I want my rep score to reflect maximum efficiency. As in number of posts divided by rep score which can be either + or - (I'm still snickering how people can even achieve that. Trying to be a nuisance? Tsk tsk tsk).

 

So that should indicate how many posts it takes for you to get 1 increase in rep score. I think I'm being pretty efficient for having a 127/22 or 5.72 posts per upvote ratio. 

 

The goal is to minimize the numerator and maximize the denominator and see if you're really, really an angel of wisdom and all that is nice and great and righteous...or see if you're very efficient in being a nuisance.

[El Kabong]

You get one point for that. I'm getting myself one Advil.

[Guest Wings4Life(BANNED)]

Enjoy the vacay, Drew.

And sorry some had to force your hand with this nonsense.

[El Kabong]

Actually, that's worked out fairly well for my rep vote. :D

Edited July 27, 2015 by El Kabong

[Guest Wings4Life(BANNED)]

Well, I think the rep score is kind of like a game to me. For me I want my rep score to reflect maximum efficiency. As in number of posts divided by rep score which can be either + or - (I'm still snickering how people can even achieve that. Trying to be a nuisance? Tsk tsk tsk).

 

So that should indicate how many posts it takes for you to get 1 increase in rep score. I think I'm being pretty efficient for having a 127/22 or 5.72 posts per upvote ratio. 

 

The goal is to minimize the numerator and maximize the denominator and see if you're really, really an angel of wisdom and all that is nice and great and righteous...or see if you're very efficient in being a nuisance.

sadly, for some it is just a game that they brag about in other sites as a way to discourage those they oppose.

Sadder yet, this is not the 5th grade to justify such behavior.