What is your anti drug?

[Guest lance armstrong's Testicles]

I dont know what mine is.

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[Flybrian]

My antidrug is Harry, because if I start druggin' n' drinkin' and end up like him, whoa buddy, that ain't a place I want to be.

[Cory Wolfe]

Wait... Anti drug? Whoops... :P Seriously, though, I don't know what I'd do without C&G and it's members. Yes, you guys. That is my anit drug... literally. Great advice, car talk, guys I can talk to that know what I'm going through. I love you guys... :blush: :lol: :D

[MyerShift]

Anti-drug? What's that? The thing where the government tries to scare the pants off of you? Just kidding, hehe. I would say that to have a specific anti-drug is a sign of personal weakness!!! Edited January 6, 2006 by S.Myers

[sciguy_0504]

Doing drugs is a sign of personal weakness, too. I don't have a specific one because you could take everything I have away and I still wouldn't do drugs.

[NOS2006]

C&G, work, and school.

[Satty]

Crack, it keeps me from doing meth.

[Brandon Lutz]

Hunting, Camping, Autobmobiles, and College Football season. Doh now the season is over, time to substitute a ladies in is places :P

[Guest lance armstrong's Testicles]

Crack, it keeps me from doing meth.

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cocaine kept bobby and whitney from doing heroin

[Sixty8panther]

Cars, American Cars, RWD cars, Drawing cars, Classic Cars, Pillarless Hardtop Cars, 1950s cars, 1960s cars, 1970s cars, Sporty Cars, Huge Cars, Muscle Cars, V8 powered Cars, V12 powered Cars, Customized Cars, Sleek cars, obnoxious cars, ME cars, big Luxury cars Hot Rods & last but not least my daughter Sofia, she's better & more entertaining than any drug could ever be!

[Croc]

Cars, American Cars, RWD cars, Drawing cars, Classic Cars, Pillarless Hardtop Cars, 1950s cars, 1960s cars, 1970s cars, Sporty Cars, Huge Cars, Muscle Cars, V8 powered Cars, V12 powered Cars, Customized Cars, Sleek cars, obnoxious cars, ME cars, big Luxury cars Hot Rods & last but not least my daughter Sofia, she's better & more entertaining than any drug could ever be!

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Then why did you start smoking pot recently (and make a thread about it)? I'm so confused.

[ocnblu]

Well, I guess it's time to pop a "serious cap" into someone's ass. :AH-HA_wink:

[Bimmer325]

Then why did you start smoking pot recently (and make a thread about it)?  I'm so confused.

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I definitely missed that one... :lol:

[Variance]

Self-control. In other words, there's nothing keeping me from doing drugs and I have no desire to.

[z28luvr01]

:withstupid: Drugs mask the symptoms of a problem. I'd much rather get rid of the problem.

[trinacriabob]

Never have done drugs. (I'm a geek, what can I say.) My alcohol consumption is pretty weak, too. I would have to say it's sleep. I work a lot of hours and I tend to be tired...so I sleep. When I was in college, I used to sleep a lot (maybe a depressive symptom of some sort, who knows).

[capriceman]

the fact that I have to take random drug tests......... really self control. and the power to say no. yes I have done them and know some stuff about them maybe too much. Really for the few hours of being high dont come near to Driving fast and my all time favorite Wave running. No one needs betty Ford and if they do they have mental issues. But drinking isnt a drug its legal. :AH-HA_wink:

[razoredge]

adreneline did it for years, now I just do drugs :P but I never inhale nor do I have sexual relations.

[ocnblu]

Certainly alcohol is a drug, caprice.

[Sixty8panther]

I tried it for the second time in my 26 years on this planet... hardly considered "started smoking" jesus Croc... you're like one of those frineds that never leaves. Sometimes when I see yor post it's like "are you still here?... go home dude it's 9am & the party's over." Edited January 7, 2006 by Sixty8panther

[Flybrian]

Guys, there's a lesson here - don't post what you don't want people to know and don't get pissed if someone brings up something you posted.

[Sixty8panther]

I'm not pissed, just annoyed like a guy with a chiuhaua stuck to his leg... this kid is like my shaddow and sometimes it seems like he keeps following me around from one thread to another. I get it... you don't like me and think everything I say is the exact opposite of your beliefs. Now move on. Fuck, why do people have to be negative and just post to piss peolpe off? Go post some more photos of the Millan or SSR. Perhaps I'll ignore the thread or perhaps I'll post in it but in either case I don't think it's right to be a douchebag towards one member in every post. <_< Edited January 7, 2006 by Sixty8panther

[Guest lance armstrong's Testicles]

Guys, there's a lesson here - don't post what you don't want people to know and don't get pissed if someone brings up something you posted.

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and when they do you just do it right back to them! :)

[Nick]

Money is my anti-drug...it's my anti-depressant too...it's basically my anti-everything...sadly, money is one of the few things that can truly make me happy anymore...I'm happy when I have money, and alcohol passes the time when I don't :P

[Guest Josh]

Marijuana is something that I believe 99% of people have tried. I'll sit, joke, laugh & what not with my customers and my relatives, but the fact remains when you get down to the facts & learn things from other family members, pot is the drug that many of our parents have smoked & still do to this very day.

Pot is not as bad a drug as people make it out to be. Have I tried it? Yes, sure have. I've also "grown up" above & beyond, but my employees have not. For many its a way to keep "cool" with the stress that is being a customer sales consultant.

I'd venture to say that pot is apart of more peoples lives on C&G than think it is not.

[Satty]

cocaine kept bobby and whitney from doing heroin

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Crack is cheap, I've made too much money in my life to do crack.
--The best Whitney Houston quote ever, she said this on like Dateline or something like that.

Pot has its place, and thats in the high school parking lot after you get out of sophmore english.

[Buickfosure]

I have to say my anti drug is marjuana and marjuana is not a drug it is a plant that anyone can grow in their house just order beaners and grow. It is very relaxing and can make a trip upnorth so much more relaxing as you are blazing down the expressway.

[razoredge]

I normally wouldnt do a high five or jump in to back up someone as so many here do with the tag teaming but I gotta say :metal: SIXTY8, that had to have felt good, I know it worked for me, thats my anti drug for the night :lol: As a responce to the topic or what Josh said. The 60's & 70's had alot of stuff going on and it was not so frowned upon at that time just like tobacco or alcohol for that matter. We didnt know about ADS or depression and the only crack that killed was the view of the plumbers. Today there is more awareness of the end results so many kids are doing better then my generation, or at least I presume. My daughter nearly 17 is so straight it scares me, Im afraid she will get in trouble down the road for not knowing to keep her mouth shut, or go off the deep end if she does givein, in college or any time later. We saw that. Kids that were straight in HS and frowned on us came back from college, dumber than dumb, we got over our partying and they were coke heads and alcoholics, of course there were those of us that never wanted the party to end too and were well into their late 20's still going to the bar 2-3-4 times a week and sending half their paychecks up their nose. Im glad to hear that so many of you younger folks know better and focus elsewhere. I have seen so many of my generation, especially some great girls screwed up from the "party". The guys that went to far were pretty much worthless in the first place and they drug some damn fine girls down the tube with them. Just another view from the trenches

[Cory Wolfe]

Marijuana is something that I believe 99% of people have tried. I'll sit, joke, laugh & what not with my customers and my relatives, but the fact remains when you get down to the facts & learn things from other family members, pot is the drug that many of our parents have smoked & still do to this very day.

Pot is not as bad a drug as people make it out to be. Have I tried it? Yes, sure have. I've also "grown up" above & beyond, but my employees have not. For many its a way to keep "cool" with the stress that is being a customer sales consultant.

I'd venture to say that pot is apart of more peoples lives on C&G than think it is not.

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I've never tried it... never tried alot of things, actually. :D

[Drew Dowdell]

Never tried any drugs. My anti-drug is money.... making more of it that is. It's nice being 27 and retired.

[Flybrian]

Bad or not, pot is still currently illegal for the vast, vast, vast majority of us and that alone dissuades me from ever considering trying it.

And the point remains, whatever you say on the internet tends to linger and perhaps come back and bite you, so be careful what you post.

[Cory Wolfe]

Oh... oops. Looks like I'm in for it, then... :D

[knightfan26917]

My anti-drug?

My health.

Is there anything else?

Oh yeah ... my Monte Carlos (er, real MCs, that is)

My family.

My abundancy of friends.

*shrugs*


Cort, "Mr MC" / "Mr Road Trip", 32swm/pig valve/pacemaker
MC:family.IL.guide.future = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort/
Models.HO = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort/trainroom.html
"It's coming down to nothing more than apathy" ... The Fray ... 'Over My Head'

[Nick]

Marijuana is something that I believe 99% of people have tried. I'll sit, joke, laugh & what not with my customers and my relatives, but the fact remains when you get down to the facts & learn things from other family members, pot is the drug that many of our parents have smoked & still do to this very day.

Pot is not as bad a drug as people make it out to be. Have I tried it? Yes, sure have. I've also "grown up" above & beyond, but my employees have not. For many its a way to keep "cool" with the stress that is being a customer sales consultant.

I'd venture to say that pot is apart of more peoples lives on C&G than think it is not.

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Personally, I have never tried marijuana, but hell, my dad used to grow the shit in his backyard as a kid. First time he told me about that he mentioned he grew it because "he liked the look of the plant" :rolleyes: At the time I probably believed him because he is into plants and gardens and shit like that, but I learned better and smelled the B.S. :P

[ocnblu]

I've smoked the stuff, maybe on five different occasions in my life. Except for the legality of it all, I don't see a big deal. It made me quite randy, from what I remember. It also made me feel very mellow and relaxed. This is NOT a recommendation, merely my experience. I haven't done it since... whoa, last summer at a local barn jam party.

I personally believe that alcohol has ruined many more lives than pot ever did. I believe marijuana should be legalised and regulated. All our current laws do is clog up the justice system. I do not believe marijuana is a "stepping stone" drug.

[sciguy_0504]

Pot is a gateway drug and all you have to do it visit your local high school to find out.

[ocnblu]

I just want to clarify that I am 41 years old, so 5 times isn't a lot. I've never bought it, it was always just passed along to me in an intimate setting. And I do not want anyone to start doing something illegal after reading my personal stance on this matter.

My anti-drug is cars, and nature. And C&G, my home on the net.

[chris]

Pot may not be a drug in itself, but it is certainly a plant that contains a number of psychoactive drugs. Alcohol (ethanol) is absolutely a drug as well. So are caffeine, nicotine and vicodin. Pot is not really a gateway drug. I would assign that status to alcohol or nicotine; most people who move onto pot have tried one of those two prior to it. Using high school as an example for much of anything is a bad idea. Most of what people do there is either for status or for escapism. No matter what the drug, high school kids by and large are just looking for a way to get "fucked up" more than the next guy, as though everything is just a stronger form of alcohol.

[Enzora]

I personally believe that alcohol has ruined many more lives than pot ever did.  I believe marijuana should be legalised and regulated.  All our current laws do is clog up the justice system.  I do not believe marijuana is a "stepping stone" drug.

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Idunno, people being doped up has been pretty detrimental to other societies. Just look at China in the 19th and early 20th centuries, where the opium problem was so bad, they resorted to public executions to get people to quit. Of course, Commmunist dictatorships aren't exactly known for taking the most humanitarian routes to fix problems, but still . . . Just because the problem isn't as noticeable doesn't mean it isn't as serious.

As for anti-drugs, I agree that it's weak to have one specific reason not to do drugs. Besides, I don't need them. I'm a pretty chill and trippy guy anyway, and I have a fondness for weird/artsy stuff without the help of any drugs. Most of my friends tell me I act like a pothead, and I've had several who were shocked to find out I've never been high (unless you count the Nyquil high I've been on the last couple days due to a cold.) Of course, my chill demeanor and appearance (long hair, large pupils) also help this assumption.

[Bimmer325]

The issue of drugs and alcohol is far more complicated than some of the simplistic views mentioned here. In many ways, the fact that alcohol is legal while marijuana remains outlawed is ridiculous. Both can have severe long term effects, but in the short run, alcohol can do much more damage emotionally and even physically. In moderation, marijuana isn't always all that dangerous. One misconception, however, is in the fact that today's weed is often compared to the weed of the 60s and 70s that our parents smoked. Today's marijuana is FAR more potent than what mom and dad had, and weed can often be laced with chemicals and more dangerous drugs. Legalizing marijuana would most likely eliminate this threat, however, as consumers would know what they're getting if purchased from an 'authorized' dealer. The fact that marijuana is illegal for the vast majority of us hasn't stopped those who want to use it do so. As far as pot being a "gateway" drug, I have to agree. I've had friends move on to other drugs after simply becoming bored with marijuana. After a while, it takes more to get the 'same' high, and this is when things become dangerous. In the end, much of it is about moderation. Abstinence is obviously the best way to remain safe, but those who choose otherwise are making a decision that shouldn't necessarily be looked down upon.

[razoredge]

They cant legalize the stuff, that would be making the statement that it is OK to be messed up. Alcohol, tobacco, gambling-including lottery should all be illegal. and while collar crimes should be punishable by public executions on Sunday afternoons whether you inhaled or not !

[sciguy_0504]

Idunno, people being doped up has been pretty detrimental to other societies.  Just look at China in the 19th and early 20th centuries, where the opium problem was so bad, they resorted to public executions to get people to quit.  Of course, Commmunist dictatorships aren't exactly known for taking the most humanitarian routes to fix problems, but still . . . Just because the problem isn't as noticeable doesn't mean it isn't as serious.

As for anti-drugs, I agree that it's weak to have one specific reason not to do drugs.  Besides, I don't need them.  I'm a pretty chill and trippy guy anyway, and I have a fondness for weird/artsy stuff without the help of any drugs.  Most of my friends tell me I act like a pothead, and I've had several who were shocked to find out I've never been high (unless you count the Nyquil high I've been on the last couple days due to a cold.)  Of course, my chill demeanor and appearance (long hair, large pupils) also help this assumption.

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Yuck. I took Dayquil a few years ago and will never take it again. I can't believe they sell that stuff. All it did for me was slow me down, everything seemed to be in slow motion. I guess that's how it made me feel better?

[turbo200]

The issue of drugs and alcohol is far more complicated than some of the simplistic views mentioned here. 

In many ways, the fact that alcohol is legal while marijuana remains outlawed is ridiculous.  Both can have severe long term effects, but in the short run, alcohol can do much more damage emotionally and even physically.  In moderation, marijuana isn't always all that dangerous.  One misconception, however, is in the fact that today's weed is often compared to the weed of the 60s and 70s that our parents smoked.  Today's marijuana is FAR more potent than what mom and dad had, and weed can often be laced with chemicals and more dangerous drugs.  Legalizing marijuana would most likely eliminate this threat, however, as consumers would know what they're getting if purchased from an 'authorized' dealer.  The fact that marijuana is illegal for the vast majority of us hasn't stopped those who want to use it do so. 

As far as pot being a "gateway" drug, I have to agree.  I've had friends move on to other drugs after simply becoming bored with marijuana.  After a while, it takes more to get the 'same' high, and this is when things become dangerous.  In the end, much of it is about moderation.  Abstinence is obviously the best way to remain safe, but those who choose otherwise are making a decision that shouldn't necessarily be looked down upon.

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this is by far a very balanced view on this issue. and I agree abstinence is the best way to stay safe, while not looking down upon people is necessary. and i also agree the long term effects can be severe. most definitely a gateway drug

[MyerShift]

Doing drugs is a sign of personal weakness, too.

I don't have a specific one because you could take everything I have away and I still wouldn't do drugs.

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Ah, yes, and thank you. Sometimes I only want to see my side of the story.
What can I say? I'm stubborn!
One of my "things" I had at work was: "Never question me. I don't call myself amazing for nothing!"

Abstinence is the best thing for anything. I mean, it seems like teen pregnancies are on the rise in my area, and I'm like, come on! Is getting some action really worth screwing your future up? Honestly, just take care of your little problem yourself. It may not be as enjoyable, etc., but it (usually) sure is a heck of a lot safer! Edited January 8, 2006 by S.Myers

[Enzora]

Yuck.  I took Dayquil a few years ago and will never take it again.  I can't believe they sell that stuff.  All it did for me was slow me down, everything seemed to be in slow motion.  I guess that's how it made me feel better?

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Yeaahhhhhhhhhh, pretty much. Don't they list ingredients in order starting with the main one? Because on the Nyquil bottle, the first thing listed is alcohol.

Edit: Yep, I just checked and it's 25% alcohol. Edited January 8, 2006 by Enzora

[Sixty8panther]

Thanks Razor... yes I was annoyed enough to just not hold back. I hate pussy-footing around wiht people who like to play games. Yes, I too believe Alcohol to be a much worse drug than Pot... although it seems I'm not into either. I highly doubt anything will ever equal the feeling of euphoria I felt just now seeing the Camaro concept with my own eyes... now it's off ot Detroit so I can se it in the flesh. :)

[chris]

They cant legalize the stuff, that would be making the statement that it is OK to be messed up.

Alcohol, tobacco, gambling-including lottery should all be illegal.
and
while collar crimes should be punishable by public executions on Sunday afternoons whether you inhaled or not !

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What a load! More people get "messed up" and kill people on alcohol than they ever did with marijuana or any other drug, and more people die from smoking cigarettes than any other drug!

You've been grievously misinformed about drugs.

[razoredge]

What a load!  More people get "messed up" and kill people on alcohol than they ever did with marijuana or any other drug, and more people die from smoking cigarettes than any other drug!

You've been grievously misinformed about drugs.

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:unsure: ya mustta missed something in my post or in the between the lines meaning in my post. Its a reality, any of that stuff being legal with todays knowledge of the human mind is wrong, they are all diseases and addictions....I feel the same way about many perscribed medicines.....even legalized white collar theifs, the ones we trust to do whats right..because they went to school and make the big bucks. :P

My drug information...well it could be uglier.....I will say that......I still know it should not be legal.

[chris]

:unsure: ya mustta missed something in my post or in the between the lines meaning in my post. Its a reality, any of that stuff being legal with todays knowledge of the human mind is wrong, they are all diseases and addictions....I feel the same way about many perscribed medicines.....even legalized white collar theifs, the ones we trust to do whats right..because they went to school and make the big bucks.  :P

My drug information...well it could be uglier.....I will say that......I still know it should not be legal.

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Unfortunately in this country, one must develop a concept that legal and right are two very different issues. Most drugs are powerful substances that many people are not mature enough or prepared for. In all reality, this nation's executive branch is not too particularly hard on the average drug user: he isn't sought out by the police in the same manner that big-time dealers are. But if you happen to be caught doing something wrong, the presence of drugs on, in, or near you will only make matters worse.

However, people will use drugs whether they are legal or not. A surprisingly large number of them try to use them responsibly, but the black market status of most of the drug trade makes it hard to know the quality or consistency of what you're getting. Ecstasy pills, sought after because they contain the drug MDMA (3,4-methylenedioxy-N-methylamphetamine, a nonaddictive "empathogen-entactogen" drug with arguably psychedelic qualities), are frequently cut (or replaced altogether!) with more dangerous substances such as methamphetamine, dextromethorphan (DXM, also part of what makes nyquil make you feel so weird), or, rarely (but fatally), the highly dose-sensitive and toxic paramethoxyamphetamine (PMA). MDMA has its own dangers (people have died from dehydration under its influence, as well as from drinking too much water), and I will not recommend its use to anyone, but these things only make it worse.

Similarly, the market for LSD (D-lysergic acid diethylamide, a nonaddictive psychedelic hallucinogen) faces such issues as well. Myths of strychnine contamination aside, these days a lot of non-LSD substances are sold as "acid" on the streets, almost all of which are more dose-sensitive than LSD (i.e., someone who thought they bought real LSD will be in for a surprise), including the research chemical 2C-T-7 (2,5-dimethoxy-4-(n)-propylthiophenethylamine, a hallucinogenic drug somewhat related to the substance amphetamine, whose name I actually had to look up), and the dissociative anaesthetic PCP (phencyclidine, known for almost invariably leading to a bad trip). Most situations wherein a person has experienced an "overdose" have involved one of these two substances; acid, while it is something very psychologically serious, and something I would definitely not recommend, is fairly difficult to overdose on (however, I should definitely warn that higher and more frequent doses of LSD tend to lead to lingering visual and memory effects).

Drug use is not going away. It was here before prohibition and it will be here when prohibition leaves. The war on drugs is nothing more than a transient danger for peaceful, productive members of society who prefer different substances than the administration. Neither of the two drugs I mentioned above have harmed nearly as many people as alcohol and tobacco (through poisoning or through endangerment of the public), not even when you adjust for the number of users of each substance.

The only acceptable approach toward problems related to drugs is a combination of proper education, harm reduction and quality control. If people knew exactly what drugs did (good and bad), could seek treatment and preventative care (i.e. needle exchange) when needed, and knew exactly what they were getting (this was a problem during alcohol prohibition, see the many cases of lead and methanol poisoning), the rate of injury and fatality would be significantly decreased compared to today's situation.

I will again note that I will not recommend that anyone should use any drug whatsoever. Too many members of this board are simply too young to be using any drug (including alcohol, arguably the most forgiving drug out there), all of the very serious legal issues aside.

See also, http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online...proemium2.shtml